Thread: Is the Presidency of the US an entitlement program?

I voted yes, I don't agree totally that it is, but in some aspects I do.

Originally Posted by fufu

I voted yes, I don't agree totally that it is, but in some aspects I do.

What was the basis for making that choice?

Well seeing that you must be MULTI millionair to be able to afford to run, I would say yes.
I don't think anyone us us could run.

Originally Posted by dg806

Well seeing that you must be MULTI millionair to be able to afford to run, I would say yes.
I don't think anyone us us could run.

So...being a multi-millionaire entitles you to be the President?

Originally Posted by DOMS

So...being a multi-millionaire entitles you to be the President?

i interpreted it as once your president you get entitlements

Originally Posted by bio-chem

i interpreted it as once your president you get intitlements

I agree. It's kind of like how when I work at a job, I'm entitled to a paycheck.

What Clemson means, is do you think that certain people are entitled to be the President.

Originally Posted by DOMS

What Clemson means, is do you think that certain people are entitled to be the President.

sure. whatever dumbass thinks he wants that job is entitled to it

Originally Posted by DOMS

What Clemson means, is do you think that certain people are entitled to be the President.

Entitled? No. Americans in general are so stupid that they vote for rich fucks who don't care about them except for a couple of years of campaigning.

Then again I also feel that these campaigns are fucking stupid. I want to see good honest debates and nothing more. Spending 30 million dollars on propaganda commercials is disgusting.

Originally Posted by danzik17

Entitled? No. Americans in general are so stupid that they vote for rich fucks who don't care about them except for a couple of years of campaigning.

Then again I also feel that these campaigns are fucking stupid. I want to see good honest debates and nothing more. Spending 30 million dollars on propaganda commercials is disgusting.

I just wish the parties were not controlled by there respective special interest groups. then we would have a country

Voted yes because in part it is.

Originally Posted by DOMS

So...being a multi-millionaire entitles you to be the President?

Kinda. If you aren't, you can't be president.

Originally Posted by dg806

Kinda. If you aren't, you can't be president.

But if you are, you're entitled to be President?

I think some have missed the word "program" in the question.

As defined by Dr. Paul M. Johnson.....

"The kind of government program that provides individuals with personal financial benefits (or sometimes special government-provided goods or services) to which an indefinite (but usually rather large) number of potential beneficiaries have a legal right (enforceable in court, if necessary) whenever they meet eligibility conditions that are specified by the standing law that authorizes the program. The beneficiaries of entitlement programs are normally individual citizens or residents, but sometimes organizations such as business corporations, local governments, or even political parties may have similar special "entitlements" under certain programs. The most important examples of entitlement programs at the federal level in the United States would include Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, most Veterans' Administration programs, federal employee and military retirement plans, unemployment compensation, food stamps, and agricultural price support programs."

Does the Presidency include perks and special privilages? Sure.

Is the President entitled to these? I vote nope.

Originally Posted by DOMS

But if you are, you're entitled to be President?

Steve Forbes

Yes, it is an entitlement program. If you qualify for president(aka you were elected) then you are entitled to partake in the wide variety of entitlements that go along with it.


I don't get the point of this thread.

Originally Posted by DOMS

But if you are, you're entitled to be President?

One of the multi millionairs are.

Originally Posted by KelJu

Yes, it is an entitlement program. If you qualify for president(aka you were elected) then you are entitled to partake in the wide variety of entitlements that go along with it.


I don't get the point of this thread.

You have to be ENTITLED to be elected. That's the "program." When the constitution was drafted with those qualifications, a woman couldn't run for President - she couldn't even file the petitions. Nor could a citizen of color, because they were legally only considered a "fraction" of a "man." So, essentially, it was a program created by the Founders initially to ensure that only members of their legal class could be the President, especially at a time when you not only had to be a white male of a certain age just to vote, but had to be recognized as a property owner as well.

Originally Posted by kbm8795

You have to be ENTITLED to be elected. That's the "program." When the constitution was drafted with those qualifications, a woman couldn't run for President - she couldn't even file the petitions. Nor could a citizen of color, because they were legally only considered a "fraction" of a "man." So, essentially, it was a program created by the Founders initially to ensure that only members of their legal class could be the President, especially at a time when you not only had to be a white male of a certain age just to vote, but had to be recognized as a property owner as well.

I already knew all of this. But, you are aware that it is no longer like that, right?

These are the qualifications that I was aware of:

Qualifications for the Office of President of the United States


If you qualify for the above , then you are "entitled" to run for president.
So again, I don't know what the point of this thread is. Or, maybe I just don't follow this thread's definition of entitlement program.

It shouldn't be, but yes, it is an entitlement program IMO...at least for the past few decades.

Originally Posted by dg806

One of the multi millionairs are.

A bum isn't going to be a CEO of a major corporation, either. But is a guy gets the right education, works his ass off to become affluent, and garners the right skills to have a shot at the presidency, that doesn't make him "entitled."

Originally Posted by DaMayor

I think some have missed the word "program" in the question.

Okay, so the rest have missed the definition of "entitled" in respect to the Presidency.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Steve Forbes

Bingo.

Are we talking like a Prince is entitled to be king when his father dies or entitled like certain people who meet the criteria are allowed the right to run for Presidency? We seem to be arguing different definitions here....

Originally Posted by DOMS

A bum isn't going to be a CEO of a major corporation, either. But is a guy gets the right education, works his ass off to become affluent, and garners the right skills to have a shot at the presidency, that doesn't make him "entitled."

wait a minute, you mean a rich motherfucker that is born into money, goes to an ivy league college because his parents are rich, etc., etc., etc. - I did not think you were so naive to think that people like GWB worked their ass off to get where they are.

Originally Posted by Prince

wait a minute, you mean a rich motherfucker that is born into money, goes to an ivy league college because his parents are rich, etc., etc., etc. - I did not think you were so naive to think that people like GWB worked their ass off to get where they are.

George Bush is no more entitled that anyone else. He played the system, made the right contracts, and took the right kickbacks to make it to the top.

That's like people saying that such-and-such only won the title of Mr. Olympia because they took steroids. Sure he took steroids, and sure Bush came from wealth, but neither put the man at the top. That man did the right things.

Truly, a stupid assumption to make.

Originally Posted by DOMS

George Bush is no more entitled that anyone else. He played the system, made the right contracts, and took the right kickbacks to make it to the top.

That's like people saying that such-and-such only won the title of Mr. Olympia because they took steroids. Sure he took steroids, and sure Bush came from wealth, but neither put the man at the top. That man did the right things.

Truly, a stupid assumption to make.

Yes Arnold did the right things. but Bush would've never had a shot if he was born into the right family and had the right support team or maybe I and many like me are just to alert to notice he had no other credentials to be President....

Originally Posted by maniclion

Yes Arnold did the right things. but Bush would've never had a shot if he was born into the right family and had the right support team or maybe I and many like me are just to alert to notice he had no other credentials to be President....

Bullshit. That's like saying that Arnold only made it to Mr. O because he's a man.