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Old 06-06-2008, 03:57 PM   #61
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So....was the shoe dropped?



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Well, since you were quoting World Wingnut Daily as if it's a reputable source....
Ever notice that in KBM's eyes everyone is an extremist, except for him?



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I don't care whether there is a "whitey" video or not. If I was a betting man, I'd say there will probably be several big shoes that drop on Obama and his wife.

Its clear that they are a couple that has gone about their lives in the separationist point of view. Obama doesn't consider himself a politician, he considers himself a Black Politician. He isn't an attorney, he is a Black Attorney. He gave a quote when he was in school that made it clear that he didn't consider himself the Editor of Harvard Law Review, he considered himself the Black Editor of Harvard Law Review. Michelle's thesis at princeton made it clear how different and unique her experience and the experience of other blacks at princeton were uncomparable to their white counterparts.

I'd be surprised if there weren't at least a few very harmful quotes that have yet to surface.



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Old 06-06-2008, 04:46 PM   #64
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Ever notice that in KBM's eyes everyone is an extremist, except for him?



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Ever notice that in KBM's eyes everyone is an extremist, except for him?

The World Wingnut Daily is not only extremist, it's on the level of a supermarket tabloid.
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The World Wingnut Daily is not only extremist, it's on the level of a supermarket tabloid.
How extremist am I? How extremist is DOMS? How extemist is "McSame?" How extremist is anyone and everyone who doesn't agree with you finger-pointing, race-baiting, victim-idealizing politics?



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How extremist am I? How extremist is DOMS? How extemist is "McSame?" How extremist is anyone and everyone who doesn't agree with you finger-pointing, race-baiting, victim-idealizing politics?

Spare us the wingnut whining routine.
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How extremist am I? How extremist is DOMS? How extemist is "McSame?" How extremist is anyone and everyone who doesn't agree with you finger-pointing, race-baiting, victim-idealizing politics?
I suggest doing as I've done and simply ignoring him and not responding to anything he says. He is devoid of any reason. I discovered it wasn't much different than trying to talk to a 5 year old.
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Spare us the wingnut whining routine.
kbm8795, show me on this doll where exactly clemson357 completely humiliated you.



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kbm8795, show me on this doll where exactly clemson357 completely humiliated you.

aww now DOMS...you already know that you aren't exactly a good judge of media credibility. It certainly isn't any surprise that Clemson isn't either. . .
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I suggest doing as I've done and simply ignoring him and not responding to anything he says. He is devoid of any reason. I discovered it wasn't much different than trying to talk to a 5 year old.

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I would rather continue the same, which I don't think is true, than rather have Obama and his scary thoughts in the whitehouse. This guy has no idea on national security. If he gets in, we will be hit hard with some type of attack because they know he won't do anything in response.
McCain has no concept of how his decisions will affect the economy though. I'm not saying Obama is any better, but the current "conservative" method of doing things is seriously fucking up our economy/money. Need a return to real conservativism (sp?) ala Ron Paul. McCain also has a tendency to flip out or so I hear - not someone I want controlling our military.



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Spare us the wingnut whining routine.
Yo, K! Can you not make a comment without reference to "wingnut"? I'm tired of hearing your "wingnut" bullshit. Is that all you've got, brother?
Produce a substantial argument and quit with the Wingnut nonsense.....Jeeze


Here's the deal, people. America is not ready for a Black and/or African American President because the Black and or African American Candidates are not ready to be President of the United States. I am a white man. I do not dis-like Black people...but they piss me off sometimes. Do you think Obama is free of issues? Do you trust that this man is capable of running this country in an unbiased fashion? Do you feel that he has the character and wherewithal to weather the many storms that this nation will face in the next decade? I THINK NOT.

And don't get me wrong.....I'm not exactly happy about Mcwhat'shisface either.



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What this country needs right now is a great business man for President. Not another damned lawyer nor some career military man. We need somebody who understands how to build a dollar into several billion dollars. I've always thought of this country as a big corporation and the economy is reflected by how well the person in charge can handle money. Look at Bush and how his personal companies did and look at how our country is doing right now. I believe that if our country has enough money first all other issues would be easier to attend to....



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Yo, K! Can you not make a comment without reference to "wingnut"? I'm tired of hearing your "wingnut" bullshit. Is that all you've got, brother?
Produce a substantial argument and quit with the Wingnut nonsense.....Jeeze

Its either "wingnut" or "McSame" in every post.



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aww now DOMS...you already know that you aren't exactly a good judge of media credibility. It certainly isn't any surprise that Clemson isn't either. . .
Everyone's an extremist but you.



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Yo, K! Can you not make a comment without reference to "wingnut"? I'm tired of hearing your "wingnut" bullshit. Is that all you've got, brother?
Produce a substantial argument and quit with the Wingnut nonsense.....Jeeze

The source that was quoted came from a right-wing online publication with no noted reporting credibility. That's why it's commonly called "World Wingnut Daily." Now how do you produce a substantial argument about nonsense in a thread about gossip and rumor?

Here's the deal, people. America is not ready for a Black and/or African American President because the Black and or African American Candidates are not ready to be President of the United States. I am a white man. I do not dis-like Black people...but they piss me off sometimes. Do you think Obama is free of issues? Do you trust that this man is capable of running this country in an unbiased fashion? Do you feel that he has the character and wherewithal to weather the many storms that this nation will face in the next decade? I THINK NOT.

And don't get me wrong.....I'm not exactly happy about Mcwhat'shisface either.
So basically you are saying that this country, which has been run by a white male minority throughout its entire history, must keep having only white males as the only way to have a leader who isn't biased? That our Presidents, as long as they are white males (and white males ONLY) automatically possess a higher character, are more trustworthy to the majority of the population? That these representatives of the same minority group, which, at the founding of this nation, represented character by structuring a Constitution favoring themselves, denied women (the majority) a right to vote or own property, called the Black man, the Asian man, and the native American man less than full citizens, are the only ones still capable of "leading" this nation because. . .well shucks. . .they've been the only ones doing it all along?

Let's say we have a white male president who drives the economy into the shitter, prolongs a war for years, fucks up so much that barely 25% of the country thinks he has a clue, can't speak in a complete sentence, has never successfully run a business in his entire life, destroys American prestige all over the world, and runs our military so ragged that they can't even respond to a forest fire at home cuz they are all overseas.

The only solution, naturally, is to get another white male president whose illustrious military career involved crashing several planes during training, drinking his way through a naval academy he wasn't qualified to attend but gained entry by family ties, dumped his first wife cuz she got fat after an auto accident while he was collecting medals as a POW producing propaganda films for the enemy (and then marrying into some money), has by his own admission no economic understanding, limited foreign policy experience to the point of not even knowing who the battling parties are in Iraq after SIX visits, a reputation for a hot temper, flipflopping on major issues, and spent nearly his entire adult life receiving taxpayer benefits as a "public servant." And that he's not more of the McSame just cuz he only voted with Bush 85% of the time?
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Everyone's an extremist but you.
And, of course, you are the voice of moderation and great reason.
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Its either "wingnut" or "McSame" in every post.

Well, that's where you fucked up in your comment by referring to a wingnut source. Just wishing something was credible doesn't make it so. . .just as you are entitled to a viewpoint but not to manufacturing facts.

"McSame" has been referred to by more than one "mainstream" media newscast now as a major term being used during this Presidential campaign. There have been some less common terms used in political blogs, like "McCrazy," but those viewpoints might be considered more extreme and with less supporting evidence than "McSame."
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What this country needs right now is a great business man for President. Not another damned lawyer nor some career military man. We need somebody who understands how to build a dollar into several billion dollars.

Exactly. Unfortunately, we aren't getting those choices this year - which just once again points to the ethical bankruptcy of the two major parties. One reason I'm more encouraged by Obama is his refusal to take money from PACS or lobbying organizations - and now the DNC has had to agree to do the same. That is a monumental change in this country - we'll see if it works.

I've always thought of this country as a big corporation and the economy is reflected by how well the person in charge can handle money. Look at Bush and how his personal companies did and look at how our country is doing right now. I believe that if our country has enough money first all other issues would be easier to attend to....

We can't fight a war without any money, or fix the infrastructure, or create jobs. And yet this country throws money around like it's addicted to shopping. Our military in Iraq has to spend the same amount on fuel as WE do, even though the Iraqi civilians get a much lower rate at the pump and their government is sitting on over $60 billion in revenues they don't want to spend on their own infrastructure. We aren't going to create jobs by bailing out companies with inept management, or giving them tax breaks so they can slowly relocate jobs overseas and then blame it exclusively on American workers expecting a living wage. We aren't going to make enough money producing nothing but insurance, banking, televangelists and Hollywood movies either, but those are rapidly becoming the only large-scale schemes that are working at home. The only other large growth industry is health care - but then if large numbers of people go bankrupt when they need medical attention, we'll eventually lose those professionals to other countries as well.
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Well, that's where you fucked up in your comment by referring to a wingnut source. Just wishing something was credible doesn't make it so. . .just as you are entitled to a viewpoint but not to manufacturing facts.

"McSame" has been referred to by more than one "mainstream" media newscast now as a major term being used during this Presidential campaign. There have been some less common terms used in political blogs, like "McCrazy," but those viewpoints might be considered more extreme and with less supporting evidence than "McSame."
Of course you are justified, because you aren't an extremist. Just everyone else.



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Of course you are justified, because you aren't an extremist. Just everyone else.
Naw...just you and a couple of others around here.
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