Thread: Fuel Prices

Originally Posted by Moondogg

hope this makes you feel slightly better

no, not really.

Fuck no it doesnt. And the media keeps reminding us that we will end up paying for that price.

I had a nightmare last night that I filled up my tank and it cost me $170. Why I dreamed this, I dont know. I have a Trans Am and I have to put Supreme into it..along with my bike, but to have a dream about it?

Also most of Europe's public transportation is vastly superior compared to America's with the exception of major metro areas

Regular costs 4.50$ here in CT. Good thing I walk/bike to work except when it's raining.

its a lil over $4 here in michigan.

im happy the fuel prices are going up. SUVs are selling for dirt cheap such as the hummer, escalade, and range rover. im hoping to get one.

have fun with the gas money that you spend every other day.

Originally Posted by Moondogg

hope this makes you feel slightly better

No, how much are the potatoes now?

Originally Posted by bigss75

Also most of Europe's public transportation is vastly superior compared to America's with the exception of major metro areas

This is one thing that does unnerve me.

In the USA since post WWII, there was a huge expansion, encouragement, and social engineering to be suburban. Driving from a suburb to the city, or from one suburb to another suburb to get to work.

This has made buying gasoline and driving a car, basically a fixed expense for those with mortgages, and/or lacking the ability to afford to live close to work.

I don't like they way suburbs seem to discourage public transportation, and also, even walking.

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

I don't like they way suburbs seem to discourage public transportation, and also, even walking.

It helps discourage minorities from having easy access to the suburbs.
Read this about Robert Moses, he built half the roads in NYC.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

It helps discourage minorities from having easy access to the suburbs.
Read this about Robert Moses, he built half the roads in NYC.

Bingo! The reason people move out of the city is to get away from minorities. That is why most large cities are liberal, mostly minorities.

Originally Posted by dg806

Bingo! The reason people move out of the city is to get away from minorities. That is why most large cities are liberal, mostly minorities.

White Flight was a reason for a certain percentage of people with decent jobs and families moving out of the cities and to the burbs. Schools, crime rates, etc.

At what point will it get so expensive that people will actually stop driving as much? I ask because living on Long Island, I see absolutely no difference in the traffic here and this is at $4.27 per gallon and climbing. there has to be a price point where people will say enough is enough, and unfortunately until we hit that price point, it is going to keep going up. If the people will pay it, they will raise it.

And yes, you absolutely need a car here on the island to live. Sure we have the Long Island Rail Road, but that only works for people who work in the city. We have the Nassau busses, but the only people that really ride them ARE the minorities. I would say less than 5% of the population that lives and works on LI use public transportation to get there. I wonder if the gas prices will change this?

Originally Posted by Stewart20

At what point will it get so expensive that people will actually stop driving as much? I ask because living on Long Island, I see absolutely no difference in the traffic here and this is at $4.27 per gallon and climbing. there has to be a price point where people will say enough is enough, and unfortunately until we hit that price point, it is going to keep going up. If the people will pay it, they will raise it.

And yes, you absolutely need a car here on the island to live. Sure we have the Long Island Rail Road, but that only works for people who work in the city. We have the Nassau busses, but the only people that really ride them ARE the minorities. I would say less than 5% of the population that lives and works on LI use public transportation to get there. I wonder if the gas prices will change this?

From what you say about LI, I doubt people will stop driving.

There might be slugs, carpooling, and things like this.

sorry to switch the topic guys, however....

At what point is the american consumer going to deamand more fuel efficient vehicles. i drive my car hard and still get 37 miles to the gallon, and if i were to drive my car easier i would get almost 40 miles to the gallon. There are also many diesel cars that get between 45-50 mpg.

i dont think i would be wrong in saying that many of you drive 3.0L automatic cars/SUV's, and deliver around 20mpg. By driving smaller engined, manual cars the vast majority of your could half you fuel bill.

Originally Posted by Moondogg

sorry to switch the topic guys, however....

At what point are the american consumer going to deamand more fuel efficient vehicles. i drive my car hard and still get 37 miles to the gallon, and if i were to drive my car easier i would get almost 40 miles to the gallon. There are also many diesel cars that get between 45-50 mpg.

i dont think i would be wrong in saying that many of you drive 3.0L automatic cars/SUV's, and deliver around 20mpg. By driving smaller engined, manual cars the vast majority of you could half you fuel bill.

What do you drive?

2007 Vauxhal Corsa - a common enough car and there are many others like it in its category of the market. And many cars in different categories that get better mpg

Originally Posted by Moondogg

sorry to switch the topic guys, however....

At what point is the american consumer going to deamand more fuel efficient vehicles. i drive my car hard and still get 37 miles to the gallon, and if i were to drive my car easier i would get almost 40 miles to the gallon. There are also many diesel cars that get between 45-50 mpg.

i dont think i would be wrong in saying that many of you drive 3.0L automatic cars/SUV's, and deliver around 20mpg. By driving smaller engined, manual cars the vast majority of your could half you fuel bill.

Most of the people running our country have money in oil, why would they want to promote us using less? Americans are going to have to make that decision one person at a time......and they will believe me when gas hits $6.50-7.00 a gallon people will start changing their ways.....

Most of you will tell me to not bitch but its $3.85 here and that seems to be a huge pain in the ass.We have this discussion everyday but no one seems to be able to do anything about it. I cant belive that the federal gwvernment cannot do anything about it. Do they not "manage" or run the country yet they cant control or even help reduce fuel prices.Too many dip shits who dont care.They have represented their states and country for years and when we have a serious economic problem they can do nothing. Many of their campains are supported with money from oil companies which leads me to thing their is a conflict of interest. Democrats and Republicans both seem to truly not know how to "run " this country in a time of need.Remember this come election time. Don't reelect anyone,until you see change. I know this is far fetched but it almost seems like the country is being supressed so alot of politicians can rape the country and make every penny they can.

first off let me say that im not hating on americans, i love the country and visit around 4 times per year and hope to eventually live there one day. however for having so many people talking about global warming, and then pratically all of the country driving cars that are extremely heavy on fuel is quite hyprocritical. yes people talk about hybrid engines and how they are the answer, but i remembering seeing adverts when i was over in the summer saying that a hybrid engine could give 30mpg, and while this is better than most cars it would still be considered terrible my our standards.

i suprised the sale of BMW mini's has not dramitically increased, i think they are nearly all manual gear box and give around 35mpg, this is a reasonalbe standard and much better than what people normally get. we seem to be getting nowhere in terms of gas prices, so i feel that by switching objectives and worrying more about fuel economy the problem could be solved for the next 5 years or so, figuring that youll get double the mpg so youll not be in the same position until gas prices are $8/gallon. and hopefully by that time there problem will have been resolved.

52 bucks to fill up my small tiburon today. Thanks $4.50/gal gas.