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    Could White Stuff on Mars Be Ice or Salt?

    Could White Stuff on Mars Be Ice or Salt?
    By ALICIA CHANG,AP
    Posted: 2008-06-17 14:42:30
    Filed Under: Science News
    LOS ANGELES (June 16) - Is the white stuff in the Martian soil ice or salt?

    That is the question bedeviling scientists in the three weeks since the Phoenix lander began digging into Mars' north pole region to study whether the arctic could be habitable.

    Shallow trenches excavated by the lander's backhoe-like robotic arm have turned up specks and at times even stripes of mysterious white material mixed in with the clumpy, reddish dirt.

    Phoenix merged two previously dug trenches over the weekend into a single pit measuring a little over a foot (30 centimeters) long and 3 inches (7.5 centimeters) deep. The new trench was excavated at the edge of a polygon-shaped pattern in the ground that may have been formed by the seasonal melting of underground ice.

    New photos showed the exposed bright substance present only in the top part of the trench, suggesting it's not uniform throughout the excavation site. Phoenix will take images of the trench dubbed "Dodo-Goldilocks" over the next few days to record any changes. If it's ice, scientists expect it to sublimate - or go from solid to gas, bypassing the liquid stage - when exposed to the sun because of the planet's frigid temperatures and low atmospheric pressure.

    "We think it's ice. But again, until we can see it disappear ... we're not guaranteed yet," mission scientist Ray Arvidson of Washington University in St. Louis said Monday.

    Even if it's not ice, the discovery of salt would also be significant because it's normally formed when water evaporates in the soil.

    Preliminary results from a bake-and-sniff experiment at low temperatures failed to turn up any trace of water or ice in the scoopful of soil that was delivered to the lander's test oven last week. Scientists planned to heat the soil again this week to up to 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit (982.22 Celsius), said William Boynton of the University of Arizona in Tucson.

    Phoenix landed in the Martian arctic plains on May 25 on a three-month, $420 million mission to study whether the polar environment could be favorable for primitive life to emerge. The lander's main job is to dig into an ice layer believed to exist a few inches from the surface.

    The project is led by the University of Arizona and managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. The lander was built by Lockheed Martin Corp.


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    Check out the link for pics!

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    What if there was intelligent life on Mars a long time ago? Cool to think we might find some thing like that out soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JailHouse View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by JailHouse View Post
    What if there was intelligent life on Mars a long time ago? Cool to think we might find some thing like that out soon.
    I think life was on Venus at some point and the sun has pulled the planets closer over the billions of years and it drew too close to the sun just out of the prosperous zone where life can prosper. I think any trace of water they find on mars is from ice meteors and not a sign of a once water covered surface.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by min0 lee View Post
    The Colombians, it's Cocaine dude.
    No, one of the NASA guys left a powdered doughnut on the landing gear....Duh.

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    Looking at that picture something doesn't seem right, you see the scrape marks in the dirt and then this pristine white just pops through, no dragging of white through the rest of the trench that you'd expect to see unless that robot has such precise control that it could dig within millimeters of the white substance without disturbing it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    I think life was on Venus at some point and the sun has pulled the planets closer over the billions of years and it drew too close to the sun just out of the prosperous zone where life can prosper. I think any trace of water they find on mars is from ice meteors and not a sign of a once water covered surface.....
    Theres already proof that water once flowed on Mars. You can find dried up drenches all over the place in older pics. Also for the longest time there have been pics of the mars surface that look like old pyramids that might have been built along time ago, who knows.




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    These images just in......


    Martians.....the original litter bugs?


    Sexual deviants? Although responsible.

    Or DOMS worst nightmare......MEXICANS!!


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    there is a guy who put video of a alien supposely spying on him lol
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    That video is BS

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