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    Question Napster

    I signed up for a Napster free 14 day trial, am I seeing this right? it's $14.95 per month, but to download an MP3 it's an additional $.99ea? I thought I got unlimited downloads for $14.95/month?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Wing View Post
    where?

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    Ok with your monthly payment you can download/listen/and put music on a portable music device but when your subscription runs out you no longer have access to any of those songs. If you pay the .99 cents you OWN the song and can do with it what you like, IE put it on a CD. With the subscription service you cannot burn the music on to disc or unapproved portable devices.

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    Wow, that sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    where?

    i don't know i just thought it must say somewhere. if they don't make that clear beforehand they'd be doing a lot of refunds.

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    Welcome to the digital rights world. It sucks. it's why people are still pirating music. It's a ripoff.






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    I think what Radiohead and Saul Wiliams/Trent Reznor have done with free DL's with optional donation then releasing the CD is the best way. Releasing a cd with artwork, videos, codes that unlock secret material each month and so on are great treats for fans too. I think fans should be the ones deciding how much they love a band hell if you ar ea super fan and want to support your band you can give $100 when you DL their latest CD instead of buying a 14.99 cd that the band gets chump change from after the label, distirbutor and other middlemen get their cuts....even if only a few thousand fans choose to pay for a free DL they'll still probably make more money than they would getting the small amount from each CD purchase.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Wing View Post
    i don't know i just thought it must say somewhere. if they don't make that clear beforehand they'd be doing a lot of refunds.
    okay, maybe, go to their website and find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    okay, maybe, go to their website and find it.
    I explained it, did you understand?

    For you 14.99 you can access/listen/portable (transfer and listen) to all thier music while you continue paying that monthly fee. Once you stop you lose ALL of those including the songs on your portable device. By paying the .99 you own the song and can burn it on CD and Portable device can listen to it til the grave. Without paying the .99 cents you will not be burning it on a CD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash Log View Post
    I explained it, did you understand?
    no, explain it a third time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash Log View Post
    I explained it, did you understand?

    For you 14.99 you can access/listen/portable (transfer and listen) to all thier music while you continue paying that monthly fee. Once you stop you lose ALL of those including the songs on your portable device. By paying the .99 you own the song and can burn it on CD and Portable device can listen to it til the grave. Without paying the .99 cents you will not be burning it on a CD.
    Thus my post on digital rights. I hate how they control the music.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    no, explain it a third time.
    ok you pay muny dee take muny but yo dun owwn da sungs, you hvez =de right to likz burrow dem for a lilz

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    easy suggestion to help you out use itunes to buy music if you want to listen to music you should go on imeem its free and they have a lot of songs

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    steal music.

    its so easy and so rewarding
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash Log View Post
    ok you pay muny dee take muny but yo dun owwn da sungs, you hvez =de right to likz burrow dem for a lilz
    I was kidding, but I decided to buy Napster Pro for $22 (it's legal right?)

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    There are major problems with protected digital media.

    Microsoft has already said they will shut their DRM servers for their MSN music service by the end of this summer. This is a good example of why you never ever ever ever want protected media. Anybody who bought their music is going to get screwed.

    Needing an internet connection to play music that requires DRM validation sucks donkey nards. What if I want to carry a song to my office or dorm room and they don;t have internet access for some reason. Well I don't get to listen to any of my music that I paid for.

    Various protected formats will only play on certain devises. A good example is I wanted to join audible to get audio books, but I couldn't buy a book because they don't do zune. Well what would happen if I had an Ipod, but decided I wanted a zune. Well, bye bye music and books I paid for.

    There are way to many problems with digital protected media. Don't waste your time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    There are major problems with protected digital media.

    Microsoft has already said they will shut their DRM servers for their MSN music service by the end of this summer. This is a good example of why you never ever ever ever want protected media. Anybody who bought their music is going to get screwed.

    Needing an internet connection to play music that requires DRM validation sucks donkey nards. What if I want to carry a song to my office or dorm room and they don;t have internet access for some reason. Well I don't get to listen to any of my music that I paid for.

    Various protected formats will only play on certain devises. A good example is I wanted to join audible to get audio books, but I couldn't buy a book because they don't do zune. Well what would happen if I had an Ipod, but decided I wanted a zune. Well, bye bye music and books I paid for.

    There are way to many problems with digital protected media. Don't waste your time.
    Then the person can use a batch DRM Cracker and unprotect all of the songs that they bought legally because no one should be able to lock you out of your property by shutting off the system that allows accessibility. It'd be like the electric company shutting off the power to your home and you have an electronic keypad only lock on your door. If you can't get into your own home then you're going to have to break in and no one will be able to say shit about it because it's your property....
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniclion View Post
    Then the person can use a batch DRM Cracker and unprotect all of the songs that they bought legally because no one should be able to lock you out of your property by shutting off the system that allows accessibility. It'd be like the electric company shutting off the power to your home and you have an electronic keypad only lock on your door. If you can't get into your own home then you're going to have to break in and no one will be able to say shit about it because it's your property....
    There is no such thing as a batch DRM cracker. New DRM has not been cracked yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    There is no such thing as a batch DRM cracker. New DRM has not been cracked yet.
    Where there are probably several ways of getting around it, like a program that will record the song into memory and then virtually burn it to a new file? or any other of a dozen ways.....I don't know because I steer clear of that shit.....
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    Maybe not a direct crack, but it's digital music KelJu. It's relatively easy for a programmer to redirect the output from the audio device to a file (which will be unprotected). If it was done correctly with no analog conversion, there would be no lost quality.

    The bad thing about that versus an actual "cracker" is that rather than it taking 10 seconds per song, it will take the actual length of the song.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danzik17 View Post
    Maybe not a direct crack, but it's digital music KelJu. It's relatively easy for a programmer to redirect the output from the audio device to a file (which will be unprotected). If it was done correctly with no analog conversion, there would be no lost quality.

    The bad thing about that versus an actual "cracker" is that rather than it taking 10 seconds per song, it will take the actual length of the song.


    I know this. I meant that DRM can not be cracked right now. I realize that there are analog holes and other methods of bypassing, but they all require more time and effort than I want to invest...especially since I get it hassle free for free.
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