SCOTUS will end 2nd Amendment debate today

**dg806** · 06-27-2008, 10:56 AM

Here's an invite Paul. If you or Lee are ever in NC, I will take you out and let you shoot to your heart's content.

min0 lee · 06-27-2008, 11:01 AM

Don't get me wrong, I am definitely not against gun ownership.
The only thing we can agree on is that there should be a finger print check and a waiting period.
That should be fair.

min0 lee · 06-27-2008, 11:02 AM

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Here's an invite Paul. If you or Lee are ever in NC, I will take you out and let you shoot to your heart's content.

Thank you, I really doubt Lee would accept it though.

clemson357 · 06-27-2008, 11:14 AM

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Paul, Lee hates guns.
As I said before I can't even have a BB gun.

Hopefully she won't see this.

Sounds like she owns a whip...

min0 lee · 06-27-2008, 11:17 AM

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Sounds like she owns a whip...

Ha! She does.

She also has one with your name on it.

bio-chem · 06-27-2008, 11:18 AM

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Ha! She does.

She also has one with your name on it.

this thread just got interesting

min0 lee · 06-27-2008, 11:25 AM

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this thread just got interesting

No, not that way, I hate to say it but she doesn't like him too much.
I think he's alright.

clemson357 · 06-27-2008, 11:42 AM

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She also has one with your name on it.

No, that is a dagger.

kbm8795 · 06-27-2008, 12:44 PM

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Reason Magazine - Hit & Run > A Somewhat Skeptical Take on Heller

Radley Balko[/url] | June 26, 2008, 4:37pm

In the past, when Scalia's limited government principles have conflicted with his law-and-order instincts, law and order has won handily. He's been a happy federalist when it comes to allowing states to infringe on individual rights, but will bring down the hammer of the federal government on states that defy the feds by giving their citizens a bit more freedom.

That is exactly why conservatives love Scalia so much.

kbm8795 · 06-27-2008, 12:52 PM

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bring it back a notch. doubts sometimes are not based on facts, data, or logic. but doubts are doubts. you know how to discuss these doubts to ease them, and being a sarcastic dick isn't the way to go about it. especially when you have an audience intelligent enough to listen. save your sarcastic jack ass remarks for kbm. that guy doesnt listen anyway

Why would any real American pay attention to jack ass remarks?

kbm8795 · 06-27-2008, 01:00 PM

Everyone is a "law-abiding citizen" until they choose not to be one.

clemson357 · 06-27-2008, 01:02 PM

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Everyone is a "law-abiding citizen" until they choose not to be one.

Whats your point?

bio-chem · 06-27-2008, 01:03 PM

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Why would any real American pay attention to jack ass remarks?

my point was you don't pay attention regardless if jack ass comments are included or not.

how come you're the only one unable to understand this? i guess it goes back to the not listening part.

clemson357 · 06-27-2008, 01:04 PM

KBM, with all your persistant whining about race and victimization, I really thought you'd be against gun control. Its roots are very closesly linked to racism, in fact the very first gun control law in this country was interpreted to mean that blacks couldn't own guns, thus making them easier to enslave.

Gays are also frequent targets of hate crime, and thus have a heightened interest in self-defense.

**dg806** · 06-27-2008, 01:12 PM

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Thank you, I really doubt Lee would accept it though.

Tell her not to knock it until she at least tries it.

WillBrink · 06-27-2008, 01:12 PM

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KBM, with all your persistant whining about race and victimization, I really thought you'd be against gun control. Its roots are very closesly linked to racism, in fact the very first gun control law in this country was interpreted to mean that blacks couldn't own guns, thus making them easier to enslave.

That is a fact. The must read paper on the topic:

The Racist Roots of Gun Control

The Racist Roots of Gun Control

Anyone who supports gun control, supports laws created by racists.

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Gays are also frequent targets of hate crime, and thus have a heightened interest in self-defense.

Motto of the Pink Pistols is "armed gays don't get bashed"

Pink Pistols Splash Page

Any gay person who does not support the right of self defense, considering how often they are made a target due to their sexual orientation, is not using their brains.

DOMS · 06-27-2008, 01:21 PM

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Anyone who supports gun control, supports laws created by racists.

Damn you, WillBrink. Now I'm torn...

WillBrink · 06-27-2008, 01:25 PM

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Damn you, WillBrink. Now I'm torn...

It's a start.

Early gun control laws were never intended to reduce crime, they were intended to prevent free blacks from owning guns. And guess what, they have exactly that effect today. They are as racist and elitist as ever, which is why no wealthy connected white man has ever had a problem getting a license for a gun or pay people to protect him with guns, but the old black man who runs a small store in any major inner city who tries to get a license to protect himself, his business, and his family, will not get one....

Can you live with that? I can't. One more time, from the man who wrote most of the 2A who recognized this fact even then:

"Gun-control laws have always been elitist and racist. Elitists have always wanted to disarm the common folks while, of course, retaining the privileges of arms for themselves. And the right to keep and bear arms has always been a populist cause." - James Madison (boasting to a European critic that the new country of America did not fear its own people and allowed them to own arms).

DaMayor · 06-27-2008, 01:43 PM

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Damn you, WillBrink. Now I'm torn...

Noted and Documented.

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It's the unknown that scares people.

Valid point.

sony-cui · 06-27-2008, 01:46 PM

I agree with u idea!!Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech except that they may dictate that radio broadcasts must have "varied opinions," and specifically exempt all other forms of news."

min0 lee · 06-27-2008, 01:47 PM

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It's a start.

Early gun control laws were never intended to reduce crime, they were intended to prevent free blacks from owning guns. And guess what, they have exactly that effect today. They are as racist and elitist as ever, which is why no wealthy connected white man has ever had a problem getting a license for a gun or pay people to protect him with guns, but the old black man who runs a small store in any major inner city who tries to get a license to protect himself, his business, and his family, will not get one....

Can you live with that? I can't. One more time, from the man who wrote most of the 2A who recognized this fact even then:

"Gun-control laws have always been elitist and racist. Elitists have always wanted to disarm the common folks while, of course, retaining the privileges of arms for themselves. And the right to keep and bear arms has always been a populist cause." - James Madison (boasting to a European critic that the new country of America did not fear its own people and allowed them to own arms).

You really do know your guns.

min0 lee · 06-27-2008, 01:50 PM

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I agree with u idea!!Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech except that they may dictate that radio broadcasts must have "varied opinions," and specifically exempt all other forms of news."

Who do you agree with MR Sony?

bio-chem · 06-27-2008, 01:51 PM

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I agree with u idea!!Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech except that they may dictate that radio broadcasts must have "varied opinions," and specifically exempt all other forms of news."

can i get an ID check from a moderator.....ID check from a moderator here.

clemson357 · 06-27-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WillBrink

Motto of the Pink Pistols is "armed gays don't get bashed"

Pink Pistols Splash Page

Any gay person who does not support the right of self defense, considering how often they are made a target due to their sexual orientation, is not using their brains.

I really think KBM is too partisan to think for himself. He is going to subscribe to the militant-liberal ideology, no matter how clearly adverse it is to him.

WillBrink · 06-27-2008, 02:03 PM

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You really do know your guns.

I do my best. Remember, it's not really about guns in the end, but power. I am passionate about the topic for the same reasons the Founders were who wrote the document, and well before them, this was recognized before there were guns:

"Though defensive violence will always be 'a sad necessity' in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men." - St. Augustine A.D. 354-430

bio-chem · 06-27-2008, 02:09 PM

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I really think KBM is too partisan to think for himself. He is going to subscribe to the militant-liberal ideology, no matter how clearly adverse it is to him.

there comes a point where politics is no longer controlled by logical parts of the brain and becomes solely the responsibility of emotions. he is well beyond that point

WillBrink · 06-27-2008, 03:54 PM

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I really think KBM is too partisan to think for himself. He is going to subscribe to the militant-liberal ideology, no matter how clearly adverse it is to him.

A shame, but very common.

Denial: "Denial is a defense mechanism' postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence..."

DOMS · 06-27-2008, 06:50 PM

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It's a start.

Can't I have both? Hell, can't I combine them?

DOMS · 06-27-2008, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by clemson357

I really think KBM is too partisan to think for himself. He is going to subscribe to the militant-liberal ideology, no matter how clearly adverse it is to him.

He's white, yet he hates on white people. He's gay, but he'd support a legal ruling that would make gays more vulnerable.

Hamster on a wheel...

min0 lee · 06-27-2008, 07:37 PM

I like Kbm, he is one persistant mofo.

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