John Lovell is Alive Today

**min0 lee** · 07-05-2008, 08:20 PM

Blasphemes: John Lovell is Alive Today

Two armed men barged into a Subway Sandwich shop shortly after 11 p.m., demanding money from the employee, behind the counter. When they tried to force John Lovell - the lone customer, age 71, into the bathroom, he pulled out a gun and shot both men, police said.

Donicio Arrindell, 22, was shot in the head and later died at the hospital. Fredrick Gadson, 21, was shot in the chest and ran from the Subway, but police found him in hiding in some bushes on the property of a nearby BankAtlantic.

Lovell, 71. Police said he had a concealed weapons permit. Retired US Marine.

Lovell's neighbor said he made the right decision.

"He did the right thing," said Wendi Hill. "I mean, I was glad that it was them that got shot and not him."

The dead criminal's grandma told Local 10 News that Lovell was wrong for pulling the trigger. "He should not have taken the law in his hands," said Rosa Jones, again, Gadson's (the perp who is still living via ventilator) grandmother. Her husband, (not Gadson's grandfather? It's a little vague with the details...) Ivory Jones, also condemned the media for its portrayal of Lovell's actions. "I don't condone what they did, (but) I definitely don't condone the news people making him out to seem like they're making a hero out of this man because he shot somebody down," he said.

Police said Lovell, the retired Marine, wouldn't be charged.

As stated in the SCOTUS decision - a gun levels the playing field - a victim has a chance against their aggressors. Where else does a 71 year old have a chance against two gun wielding 20 year old? How much imagination does it take to imagine reversing this narrative - an employee and 71 year old customer are found dead in a Subway bathroom? Not much, right?

And how about the criminal being the "victim" here? That sickens me. John Lovell isn't a vigilante. He defended his life. Now he's alive. Simple.

And yes, I have rewritten this story, because the first time I read it - it was very anti John Lovell. The fact John is alive was on the bottom of the story, and the Grandma statement was on the masthead of the story. Totally bogus.

In fact, there's even a picture of the perp and his grandma complaining into a microphone.(link)

Unbelievable.

**min0 lee** · 07-05-2008, 08:23 PM

I salute you Mr. Lovell.

Shame on you Rosa,may you get mugged and may no one come to your rescue.

Rosa Jones says a retired Marine shouldn't have shot her grandson while they attempted to rob a Subway sandwich shop.

The perp.

**bigss75** · 07-05-2008, 08:27 PM

They should charge the old man for not killing the other smuck, now we will have have another leach, being a drain on society.

**DOMS** · 07-05-2008, 09:43 PM

Nice!

In this altercation:

Gun: 1.5
Perps: 0

The old woman is a bitch. I hope she gets a beat down for her purse.

**YSK** · 07-06-2008, 01:30 AM

How long until someone plays the race card? Fucking perps.

**cadnkides** · 07-06-2008, 02:42 AM

John Lovell = Racist

Rosa Jones = I would hit it

**vader** · 07-06-2008, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by cadnkides

John Lovell = Racist

Rosa Jones = I would hit it

with a bat

**Prince** · 07-06-2008, 08:54 AM

that is f'ing hilarious, I don't like to see senior citizens walking around with guns (or anyone for that matter), but a story like that is just awesome.

**clemson357** · 07-06-2008, 09:12 AM

Concealed carry saves lives.

13 independent studies estimate that guns are used by every day citizens to stop crime between 800,000 and 2.5 million times every year.

**danzik17** · 07-06-2008, 09:30 AM

It would never ever happen, but I would be interested in seeing gun education made mandatory in public schooling. My logic goes that if we can educate future generations on how to properly handle a weapon, then perhaps that generation won't have the ridiculous fear of them that seems to be present in everything.

**brogers** · 07-06-2008, 02:01 PM

I wonder if the guns the robbers had were legal or not?

**maniclion** · 07-06-2008, 03:17 PM

I wonder if Rosa would feel better if a cop had shot her grandbaby....oh yeah she would then she could sue the city for it...

Now if that bitch had been in the Subway and some other punkass thugs had been robbing it and a man had shot them saving her wallet she'd have been praising him as a hero fucking hypocritical ho bag....

**NancyDemuyakor** · 09-15-2010, 10:46 PM

John Lovell is more than likely a descendent of the late John P Lovell, maker of the 12G, 16G, and Single Barrel shotguns along with a bunch of other guns I'm learning about. They opened a store in Boston Mass, in 1840 rightfully called, John P Lovell Arms Co. If you look it up the name you can still find guns and catalogs for sale, so I can definately foresee a man with that name carrying a weapon and using it if he felt threatened.

**Mudge** · 09-16-2010, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

The dead criminal's grandma told Local 10 News that Lovell was wrong for pulling the trigger. "He should not have taken the law in his hands," said Rosa Jones,

Maybe if you taught your grandson not to break the law with his own hands, he'd still be alive.

He died because he got caught with his pants down, doing something he shouldn't have, it was a roll of the dice and his numbers didn't come up golden!

**vortrit** · 09-16-2010, 01:13 AM

I guess he didn't aim good enough. Too bad the other perp didn't die to, and the granma had a heart attack.

**juggernaut** · 09-16-2010, 05:04 AM

His name is Rosa?

**ALBOB** · 09-16-2010, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by brogers

I wonder if the guns the robbers had were legal or not?

Since it was being used in the commission of a crime, I'd say it was definitely NOT legal.

(But I do get the point of your original question.

)

**Prince** · 09-16-2010, 09:23 AM

this thread is over two years old...

**maniclion** · 09-16-2010, 01:00 PM

l'll be doing the same thing when I'm that old, kicking loud mouthed punks asses on buses and taking out armed robbers late at night in fast food joints or snapping necks of punks trying to hold up the bus full of my retirement home cronies on vacation in Puerto Rico....

**KelJu** · 09-16-2010, 01:16 PM

This is an oldie, but goodie!

I approve of shooting ghetto thugs. The grandmother is a dumb cunt.

**Dark Geared God** · 09-16-2010, 04:50 PM

I know i'm a little late but fuck them nigga's.... I just wish after he shot them he puntch them in the face ..but thats just me

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