The End of America

KelJu · 07-14-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilPearson

Well that doesn't say much... personally I think "Green Eggs and Ham" is a better document than any religious text.

There are some really good relegious texts out there.

NeilPearson · 07-14-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SYN

We have a low voter turn out because it's always between a douche and a turd. Who want's to be a part of that?

That has only been recent elections... There have been some decent people in the past. Besides, if you don't want to have to choice between a douche and a turd, vote in the primaries.

NeilPearson · 07-14-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KelJu

There are some really good relegious texts out there.

If you like boring, unbelievable, dry texts that try to teach lessons that should be painfully obvious to any thinking human.

but sorry... this is not what this thread is about. I take it all back

KelJu · 07-14-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilPearson

That has only been recent elections... There have been some decent people in the past. Besides, if you don't want to have to choice between a douche and a turd, vote in the primaries.

I couldn't get off of work to vote for primaries, much like many other Americans.

There should be a government holiday for voting in both the primaries and the election.

SYN · 07-14-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilPearson

That has only been recent elections... There have been some decent people in the past. Besides, if you don't want to have to choice between a douche and a turd, vote in the primaries.

I'm gonna make it a point to as soon as I'm old enough to vote.

SYN · 07-14-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KelJu

I couldn't get off of work to vote for primaries, much like many other Americans.

There should be a government holiday for voting in both the primaries and the election.

Excellent idea.

NeilPearson · 07-14-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KelJu

I couldn't get off of work to vote for primaries, much like many other Americans.

There should be a government holiday for voting in both the primaries and the election.

I would support that... although my vote means pretty much nothing.

Crono1000 · 07-14-2008, 04:28 PM

I don't feel like reading all this all over again. I'm just gonna agree with whatever Manic says. I like where SYN is going as well. Take the top half of what he says and I'll agree with that, but not the other half just to be safe.

Don't let me down manic

NeilPearson · 07-14-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono1000

I don't feel like reading all this all over again. I'm just gonna agree with whatever Manic says. I like where SYN is going as well. Take the top half of what he says and I'll agree with that, but not the other half just to be safe.

Don't let me down manic

Well thanks for sharing YOUR opinion

tallcall · 07-14-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by brogers

The problem is, a liberal's view of what's good for the USA and it's citizens is a lot different than a conservatives, and that is what people bicker over. It will never end, so get used to it.

Yeah! The second the talking, arguing, and bickering stop is the second I get very nervous about what the government is about to do. Debate and argument about things is never bad, I just don't like it when people let it get really dirty.

Keep the arguments alive, it's what makes things interesting, at least to me (and really, everybody does live just to "please"

me don't they?).

tallcall · 07-14-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono1000

I don't feel like reading all this all over again. I'm just gonna agree with whatever Manic says. I like where SYN is going as well. Take the top half of what he says and I'll agree with that, but not the other half just to be safe.

Don't let me down manic

I'll go on record as agreeing with half of what you and everyone else here thinks and disagreeing with the other half. Now if I could only figure out which half I agree with.....

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Crono1000 · 07-14-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilPearson

Well thanks for sharing YOUR opinion

blagh, I'm tired of voicing my opinion and falling into one of two traps:

the first is a head butting debate in which both parties present the same opinions and make crippling assumptions about the other, greatly because of the nature of the internet (anonymoty, the expressing yourself through fingers and not the mouth, that most people read the snot out of their own posts but only passively pay attention to that of others, belief perseverence)

the second is that my opinion is often "I have my opinion, and you have a good point. I don't know, we're all only human and who am I to say who's right or wrong. Can't we both be partly right and partly wrong? Or at least agree that my opinion is based on my own experiences, education, and biases and yours are equally so?" However, this is not nearly as contraversial or as fun to attack as if I stand firm to my liberal beliefs and shun all conservatives for being the reason the world is blah blah blah blah blah blah and then no one pays me any attention. It gets so tiring. We're all corrupt, fallable, inadequate beings who are designed to be both loving and passionate as well as destructive and hateful. and most importantly, be oblivious to any of it.

Now is that the opinion you were wanting? ...

btw, are you this Neil Pearson? Neil Pearson (I) If so, I take back my previous statement and will now be represented by mr. Pearson's posts and manic can kiss my ass. He has done nothing as my proxy anyway

tallcall · 07-14-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono1000

manic can kiss my ass.

When Manic reads this it will become known as the second biggest mistake in human history right after that time someone told Chuck Norris that his way of killing someone wasn't the best.

Also, it has great potential as a sig!

Crono1000 · 07-14-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tallcall

When Manic reads this it will become known as the second biggest mistake in human history right after that time someone told Chuck Norris that his way of killing someone wasn't the best.

Also, it has great potential as a sig!

Well, in all honesty Chuck Norris's method of killing really isn't all that grea...

tallcall · 07-14-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono1000

Well, in all honesty Chuck Norris's method of killing really isn't all that grea...

Watch it!

YouTube Video

Crono1000 · 07-14-2008, 05:19 PM

NeilPearson · 07-14-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono1000

blagh, I'm tired of voicing my opinion and falling into one of two traps:

the first is a head butting debate in which both parties present the same opinions and make crippling assumptions about the other, greatly because of the nature of the internet (anonymoty, the expressing yourself through fingers and not the mouth, that most people read the snot out of their own posts but only passively pay attention to that of others, belief perseverence)

the second is that my opinion is often "I have my opinion, and you have a good point. I don't know, we're all only human and who am I to say who's right or wrong. Can't we both be partly right and partly wrong? Or at least agree that my opinion is based on my own experiences, education, and biases and yours are equally so?" However, this is not nearly as contraversial or as fun to attack as if I stand firm to my liberal beliefs and shun all conservatives for being the reason the world is blah blah blah blah blah blah and then no one pays me any attention. It gets so tiring. We're all corrupt, fallable, inadequate beings who are designed to be both loving and passionate as well as destructive and hateful. and most importantly, be oblivious to any of it.

Now is that the opinion you were wanting? ...

btw, are you this Neil Pearson? Neil Pearson (I) If so, I take back my previous statement and will now be represented by mr. Pearson's posts and manic can kiss my ass. He has done nothing as my proxy anyway

Nope sorry, its not me

clemson357 · 07-14-2008, 05:42 PM

The sad part about America is that neither party is sticking up for civil liberties anymore. Both parties want your first amendment rights taken, Dems want your second amendment rights taken, Reps want your fourth and fifth amendment rights taken. And both parties see themselves as the great emancipators.

KelJu · 07-14-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by clemson357

The sad part about America is that neither party is sticking up for civil liberties anymore. Both parties want your first amendment rights taken, Dems want your second amendment rights taken, Reps want your fourth and fifth amendment rights taken. And both parties see themselves as the great emancipators.

I agree 100%.

Voting isn't about who will do the best job. Voting is for who you you think will fuck you out of the least amount of freedom.

Crono1000 · 07-14-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilPearson

Nope sorry, its not me

well dammit, I need a new representative then!

tallcall, you're up! Make me proud!

tallcall · 07-15-2008, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono1000

well dammit, I need a new representative then!

tallcall, you're up! Make me proud!

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I think that just about covers it!

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07-14-2008, 04:28 PM	#38
Crono1000 Peelosopher Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,772 Photos: 11	I don't feel like reading all this all over again. I'm just gonna agree with whatever Manic says. I like where SYN is going as well. Take the top half of what he says and I'll agree with that, but not the other half just to be safe. Don't let me down manic

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