Thread: About time big business starts doing this!

Meh who gives a shit. Who watches golf without tiger woods. And you want them to watch women's golf... not.

a translator should suffice. but nice way to eliminate some tough competition.

So what if they are deaf or mute and can't speak any language?

Golf sucks, golf without Tiger sucks harder, and who really gives a shit what language the players speak any way?

Golf has a history........

If I can get another player of Babe Ruth quality to play for the Yankees I don't care if he only spoke nano nano.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Golf has a history........

The fart I just released has a history. That doesn't change the fact that was just a smelly fart.

Originally Posted by KelJu

Golf sucks, golf without Tiger sucks harder, and who really gives a shit what language the players speak any way?

Agreed. This seems a bit much IMO

This isn't about golf IMO. It's about our society at large. Other nationalities coming in to our country and not adopting the language but using us for financial gain.

The LPGA is simply saying without the ability to speak the English language they can't further their sport financially. It's hard to not agree. What sponsors are going to jump on board a sport that is played in the US but the players can't speak the language?

Unfortunately. We are entering an international economy. There is a huge potential for the LPGA to scoop up advertising dollars from international firms like the South Koreans.

Look at baseball and the ad's on the stadiums when Japanese or Chinese baseball players play for that team. Can't understand a single thing.

Also how ignorant is it of the LPGA to suspend players. How about they work co-operatively with the players on a marketing strategy, instead of ruling with an Iron fist.

South Koreans have dominated the LPGA this year. Do they want the best golfers or not?

Originally Posted by Little Wing

a translator should suffice. but nice way to eliminate some tough competition.

Precisely my initial thoughts.

Well, they've said they're not going to suspend anyone right away. They are going to provide tutors to help them as well. It's all about marketing to the American public. If you can't speak English how can you be marketed to the US audience.

Originally Posted by largepkg

This isn't about golf IMO. It's about our society at large. Other nationalities coming in to our country and not adopting the language but using us for financial gain.

The LPGA is simply saying without the ability to speak the English language they can't further their sport financially. It's hard to not agree. What sponsors are going to jump on board a sport that is played in the US but the players can't speak the language?

I agree 100%. I said this on another forum:

Originally Posted by FatCatMC

If I were to move to a country for work and spend a good amount of time there, you bet your ass I'd learn enough to get by. I'd be outright embarrassed if I didn't. Especially if there was a chance I'd be talking to cameras.

I respect athletes that move to America to soak in the fame and make money, that actually take the time to be part of the surrounding culture, at least attempt it. Full-time tour players would have to live in the States full-time barring the few events held overseas, wouldn't you want to know the native tongue?

Golfing is elitist and racist and sexist too, I don't think they've ever tried to hide that. This is none of that in my opinion. I just don't see the harm in requiring the people that represent your company or your brand name, to be able to communicate with the people that spend the most money on the product.

It's better for the tour, and it's better for the player in the long run.

Originally Posted by maniclion

So what if they are deaf or mute and can't speak any language?

It's called sign language. Like someone else said, there are interpreters and translators for that.

These international stars are a huge opportunity for the LPGA to draw international sponsors period. They need to wake up and smell the coffee. No one gives a shit about the LPGA, so expand there horizons to where someone does.

Originally Posted by shiznit2169

It's called sign language. Like someone else said, there are interpreters and translators for that.

But that's not spoken and it's not english....so then I guess they're just screwed

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

These international stars are a huge opportunity for the LPGA to draw international sponsors period. They need to wake up and smell the coffee. No one gives a shit about the LPGA, so expand there horizons to where someone does.

I'm not so sure about that. Why come to America then if the opportunities are so huge abroad? With all these supposed huge international sponsors that are interested in female golf, you'd think they'd pool them together to form a tour that rivals the LPGA. There's a good reason these women flock to the USA. It's because there is no international women's scene, at least not on the same level or even near the level it is here in the US. If they could make the same money in their own countries, I'm sure they would.

Another good reason for these women to learn the language is Pro-Am's. I never really gave it much thought but someone on ESPN was saying that a lot of revenue is generated by amateurs paying big bucks to play with the pros, and what's the point if you can't communicate with your partner?

You're right though, nobody gives a shit about the LPGA, and they'll continue to care even less about it if something isn't done soon. There are over 120 golfers on tour that are international players and it would be an absolute free-for-all if none of them spoke English. Sounds like most people would rather have over 100 translators roaming the course with the players in order to remain "politically correct", instead of requiring them to learn the language of the country that puts money in their bank accounts, and Mercedes' in their garages. I don't even see the debate.

Oh I agree with the Pro-am's. I just think the LPGA is handling this very poorly from a marketing standpoint. People want to see the best players, so why suspend them, or even entertain the thoughts of it?

If there marketing struggles work with these players to develop this.

The players come to America cause it is the largest organization, with the best players. Just like in baseball, the best international stars come to MLB. Watch a Yankee game or a Mariner Game, see how many international ads are up, just because of Ichiro or Matzui.

I agree with Repro. If there was such international marketing opportunity abroad I'm sure they've exhausted it. This leads me to believe there isn't nearly the volume their losing from US sponsors. Mens baseball is a huge draw in other places such as Japan and Hispanic countries. Womens golf is not and they must be hurting from ads lost for them to take the possible PR hit like this.

Who here knows whether golf is gaining or losing popularity? I just don't believe my generation is picking up the sport, but I don't have any facts, only my skewed observation.

Mens golf is pretty big now thanks to Tiger. As for the women I don't see any more on the golf course, thank god. Also, the club I go to has a huge kids tourney once a month and when I say huge I mean they take up the whole course! Most of them little bastards are better than me too.

What do women do that bothers you on the golf coarse?

Originally Posted by KelJu

Who here knows whether golf is gaining or losing popularity? I just don't believe my generation is picking up the sport, but I don't have any facts, only my skewed observation.

Golf is huge business.

Tiger woods is involved in a 1.1 billion dollar course in Saudi Arabia.

Originally Posted by largepkg

I agree with Repro. If there was such international marketing opportunity abroad I'm sure they've exhausted it. This leads me to believe there isn't nearly the volume their losing from US sponsors. Mens baseball is a huge draw in other places such as Japan and Hispanic countries. Womens golf is not and they must be hurting from ads lost for them to take the possible PR hit like this.

Maybe it is just womens golf is a bore, and they are looking for scape goats.

What they should mandate is a clothing and appearance rule.

Originally Posted by KelJu

What do women do that bothers you on the golf coarse?

Dont't show me their tits, frown on me humping the 9th hole, refuse to skinny dip in the water hazard on the 11th, get huffy when I down my 18th beer and then take their Hummer equivalent golf cart for a joy ride through all of the sand traps.... things like that....

In a private business...yes I agree, but in sports nope.

Originally Posted by KelJu

What do women do that bothers you on the golf coarse?

It's mainly pace of play issues for me. Usually their the ones that go out with their husbands but aren't very good. When paired with men they hit from the ladies tees which again adds to the pace of play.