Thread: Saw V

I guess I just don't see the point of the series. I'm pretty disgusted at people who go to movies like Saw and Hostel for entertainment; it's kind of disturbing that someone would enjoy that.

I never got into horror movies myself, but never really though of it as a sick endeavor.

Originally Posted by danzik17

I guess I just don't see the point of the series. I'm pretty disgusted at people who go to movies like Saw and Hostel for entertainment; it's kind of disturbing that someone would enjoy that.

Have you even seen a single one of the movies?

I did not even know there was a Saw 4 for a while. I thought I and II were okay, but 3 and 4 sucked. Prince, where would you rank #5 of the series?

Originally Posted by KentDog

I did not even know there was a Saw 4 for a while. I thought I and II were okay, but 3 and 4 sucked. Prince, where would you rank #5 of the series?

not sure, about the same just a lot different, I don't want to tell you the movie but 5 reveals something from all 4 movies, its worth seeing and going by the ending I can see a 6 on the way.

Originally Posted by danzik17

I'm pretty disgusted at people who go to movies like Saw and Hostel for entertainment; it's kind of disturbing that someone would enjoy that.

not sure why, we go to movies to suspend disbelief, I don't get any enjoyment out of seeing any human or animal suffer or die in real life, we all go to a movie knowing it is all fake and created in Hollywood, it does not mean we are sick or disturbed for enjoying it.

Originally Posted by Witchblade

Have you even seen a single one of the movies?

I've seen Saw and Saw II. Both times I wondered why anyone would enjoy it. I've never seen the others or Hostel.

i don't like movies like that either. it's kind of an interesting hypothesis... what would you sacrifice to live? but in your face gore makes me just feel sick. a creepy, eerie, building fear type horror that makes you think rather than cringe is better to me.

Originally Posted by danzik17

I've seen Saw and Saw II. Both times I wondered why anyone would enjoy it. I've never seen the others or Hostel.

it's a good thing that we're all different and enjoy different things.

however, interesting that you saw the first Saw movie and then went to see the second after knowing what its about, that's a bit of a contradiction is it not?

I saw one and two and 3 and 4 were on my tv at some point but I didnt pay attention. I figured this movie would be a little more standalone then it was. Not enough gore and 0 tits, but I was entertained. That could be because I was at a theater that serves food and drinks in big comfy chairs.

If you want gore rent buy or steal, "Inside"

Originally Posted by danzik17

I've seen Saw and Saw II. Both times I wondered why anyone would enjoy it. I've never seen the others or Hostel.

Saw is completely different from Saw II+ and Hostel. Things that make Saw a good movie:
- original, fast-paced editing
- great special effects and screenplay
- fitting soundtrack
- interesting antagonist (Jigsaw)
- psychologic concept of survival vs solidarity
- original plot, including unexpected twist
- thrilling detective story
- instant-classic climax "Game over."

Saw revolutionized the horror film industry. Dozens of horrors and thrillers copied from Saw. Without Saw, we would have half the number of recent horror films we have now.

Stating that movies like Saw and Silence of the Lambs are just about sadism is like saying Juno and Little Miss Sunshine are just about punchlines. It's a rather narrow-minded and simplistic paradigm.

As for the rest of the Saw franchise and Hostel, I agree. Those are commercial pieces of crap (although I still think Hostel had some style). They have to make up for their lack of plot with gore, but what's so new about that? Comedies make up for their lack of plot with jokes, action movies with action, etc. The point: the flaw is not in the genre, it's in the film.

Originally Posted by Witchblade

Saw is completely different from Saw II+ and Hostel. Things that make Saw a good movie:
- original, fast-paced editing
- great special effects and screenplay
- fitting soundtrack
- interesting antagonist (Jigsaw)
- psychologic concept of survival vs solidarity
- original plot, including unexpected twist
- thrilling detective story
- instant-classic climax "Game over."

Saw revolutionized the horror film industry. Dozens of horrors and thrillers copied from Saw. Without Saw, we would have half the number of recent horror films we have now.

Stating that movies like Saw and Silence of the Lambs are just about sadism is like saying Juno and Little Miss Sunshine are just about punchlines. It's a rather narrow-minded and simplistic paradigm.

As for the rest of the Saw franchise and Hostel, I agree. Those are commercial pieces of crap (although I still think Hostel had some style). They have to make up for their lack of plot with gore, but what's so new about that? Comedies make up for their lack of plot with jokes, action movies with action, etc. The point: the flaw is not in the genre, it's in the film.

We pretty much agree then. I saw and mildly liked the original Saw because of the storyline, not because of the content which I disliked a lot. I had hoped the second Saw would continue that but was extremely disappointed; it was just a race to see who could make up the most gruesome crap.

That's the same reason why I actually like the Hannibal movies. They actually have a story behind them and aren't just torture porn.

Originally Posted by Prince

it's a good thing that we're all different and enjoy different things.

however, interesting that you saw the first Saw movie and then went to see the second after knowing what its about, that's a bit of a contradiction is it not?

I went because like Witchblade pointed, I had hoped that Saw II would continue the Saw storyline effectively. What I found was 93 minutes of torture for entertainment; that's just not my cup of tea. From what I have been told and read, the read of the movies are all the same.

I stopped following the series after the mental rape of Saw II as well.

Originally Posted by danzik17

I went because like Witchblade pointed, I had hoped that Saw II would continue the Saw storyline effectively. What I found was 93 minutes of torture for entertainment; that's just not my cup of tea. From what I have been told and read, the read of the movies are all the same.

well, again I see you contradicting yourself...here is what you initially said:

Originally Posted by danzik17

I guess I just don't see the point of the series. I'm pretty disgusted at people who go to movies like Saw and Hostel for entertainment; it's kind of disturbing that someone would enjoy that.

Originally Posted by Prince

well, again I see you contradicting yourself...here is what you initially said:

Honestly I don't care all that much. If you want to spend your time analyzing each post to find contradictions like that instead of trying to understand the meaning, feel free.

The fact is that I found the story intriguing, but the methods used disgusting. The original Saw wasn't terrible, probably on-par with Hannibal Rising (some of which I found pretty disgusting). Past that, the movies were simply disgusting and disturbing in nature.

Originally Posted by Witchblade

I stopped following the series after the mental rape of Saw II as well.

Saw II was the start of the Shitty Sequel Syndrome.

Originally Posted by danzik17

The fact is that I found the story intriguing, but the methods used disgusting. The original Saw wasn't terrible, probably on-par with Hannibal Rising (some of which I found pretty disgusting). Past that, the movies were simply disgusting and disturbing in nature.

I know exactly what you are saying. When I first went to see Saw II in theatres, I was shocked at how much they had upped the gore on it. The uniqueness of the first one disappeared, and it became all about new and sick ways to torture/kill people. This is why I did not go to theatres to see Saw III and IV, though I did see them eventually because I had heard III was good, and IV out of sheer curiosity.

I liked the first Saw, but every sequel, including the new one, is just more of the same.. People battle it out in a maze, dying from not taking jigsaw's advice. They need to do something different or move on.

And yes, I look away like a little girl when the extremely gory shit happens.

Originally Posted by busyLivin

I liked the first Saw, but every sequel, including the new one, is just more of the same.. People battle it out in a maze, dying from not taking jigsaw's advice. They need to do something different or move on.

And yes, I look away like a little girl when the extremely gory shit happens.

Youre a bitch.

But because you liked the first Saw, Ill remove your tampons.

just watched saw 5.

loved it (as i loved all of the other saw movies). can't waite for number 6!

I wrecked saw 3 for myself.

The twist at the end was something I assumed everybody was supposed to know from the beginning.

Fail.

Liked the first movie a lot, the other ones arent bad. I like Jigsaw as a character. Also dolls creep me out.

Nikki Finke’s Deadline Hollywood Daily � ‘Saw’ Top Grossing Horror Franchise Ever

Four men slashed, 4 arrested in Times Square melee outside 'Saw V' horror flick
A wild rumble erupted in Times Square outside a theater showing the gore flick "Saw V" early Saturday morning, and four young men were stabbed or slashed.
Dozens of anxious moviegoers packed the AMC Empire 25 on famed 42nd St. on the opening night of the horror movie, which was showing every 30 minutes on seven screens.
Tension built after swarms of teens and young adults were trying to exit and enter theaters, including disappointed groups who couldn't get into sold-out shows.
"A tinderbox - and it got ugly fast," a police source said.

Pandemonium gripped the Crossroads of the World as the fighting spilled onto Broadway and Seventh Ave. just before 1 a.m., police said.
"It seemed like hundreds of kids, roaming around in packs, screaming, yelling, running through the streets like wild animals," said Greg Wolf of Manhattan.
Joseph Carmona, 25, was stabbed in the neck and rushed to Bellevue, where hospital officials said he was in critical. His aunt and girlfriend were by his side Saturday.
"He's going to be fine," said the girlfriend, who didn't want to give her name.
Jorge Borges and Sam Noel, both 22, were also slashed in the neck and at Bellevue, cops said. A hospital spokeswoman reported Borges also in critical but had no record of Noel, who cops said was stable.
The fighting spread all the way to W. 39th St., where emergency workers found Josiah Batiste with a slashed neck. They took him to St. Vincent's Hospital in stable condition, police said.
Four men were arrested in the brawl. George Lawrence, 21, of Queens and Shalik Jenkins, 18, of the Bronx were charged with second-degree assault.
Lawrence's mother said her son is no troublemaker. "He was probably in a position where he had to defend himself," said Valerie Bridgers, 38. "He was probably fighting for his life."
John Graves, 23, and Jesus Lopez, 19, were carrying box cutters when police grabbed them and were charged with criminal possession of a weapon, sources said.
They were awaiting arraignment Saturday night in Manhattan Criminal Court.
The NYPD gang unit was investigating. Witness Marcos Flores, 21, said teens in gang regalia were around the theater just before the fight broke out.
"There were gangs all around the area, all over 42nd St.," said Flores, who works nearby. "You can tell by their bandanas."
The melee marked the second time in as many months in which one of the "Saw" movies played a role in a violent crime.
In September, Jeromie Cancel allegedly strangled Pace University student Kevin Pravia before calmly watching "Saw" in the 19-year-old's Chelsea apartment.
wcruz@nydailynews.com

I loved the first four Saw movies. I think they are all different although they build on each other, which to me makes it interesting. Can't wait to see 5 this week and see some hidden things from the last 4. Oh yes, there will be blood in #6!

Originally Posted by Witchblade

Have you even seen a single one of the movies?

I've seen Saw I & Saw II and Hostel. Saw I was cool because it was a different type of horror flick for a change with a nice twist at the end. Saw II was absolute garbage. After that, I refused to watch anymore Saw's because I knew they would get worse. Hostel was decent. Maybe a little too gory for some, but the plot was pretty neat. I'd liked the ending and revenge scenes. A sequel was pointless.