New Yorker's are gonna get SCREWED

**lucifuge** · 12-16-2008, 05:42 PM

I got irate when Daley implemented a bottled water tax, but this is TOTAL bullshit...

Plan would tax iTunes, ballgames, cable TV -- Newsday.com

Plan would tax iTunes, ballgames, cable TV
BY MELISSA MANSFIELD

ALBANY - Having fun in New York may be getting a little pricier.

Under a budget proposed by Gov. David A. Paterson Tuesday, the state would charge sales tax on activities that include downloading music, attending a ballgame and getting a massage.

Paterson's executive budget included 88 fees, 10 fines and 39 tax changes that would bring in over $5 billion next year.

"The governor feels these fees are fair, reasonable and necessary to balance this budget," said spokesman Errol Cockfield. He said the administration looked at areas where fees had remained the same for many years, where costs of services had gone up, and where revenue could be brought in quickly, "without unduly burdening our citizens, especially the most vulnerable."

If the Legislature approves, the state would begin taxing hair salons, credit rating services, cable and satellite television and radio, movies and sporting events. Sales tax would be charged when downloading music, movies, photographs and games. Taxes would increase for cigars and malt beverages, as well as car rentals and limousines. The cost of vehicle registration and licensing would go up 25 percent.

The plan would eliminate the sales tax exemption on clothing and footwear under $110, and creates a luxury goods tax for expensive cars, yachts, jewelry and noncommercial aircraft.

State parks fees for camping, rentals, golf and marina use also would go up.

Senate Majority Leader Dean Skelos (R- Rockville Centre) opposed the increases and said, "It's my hope we will be able to eliminate a number of these fees and taxes, especially those that impact the everyday working family person who just can't make ends meet right now."

The budget presentation said many states already collect taxes on entertainment, and New York City collects sales tax on personal services.

John Vargas, who owns Atlantic Massage Therapy in Merrick, said a sales tax on massage therapy is tantamount to exacting a tribute for self-care. "People are going to feel like the government is taking the money that's for their wellness," he said. "Are they going to start taxing doctors' co-pays, too?"

Staff writer Laura Rivera, on Long Island, also contributed to this story.

The following are among the taxes and fees that Gov. David A. Paterson is proposing in his 2009-2010 budget.

Makes personal services (such as beauty, barbering, manicure, pedicure, massage, health salon or gymnasium services) and credit rating and reporting services subject to sales tax statewide. Currently, only New York City sales tax applies to these services.

Imposes a sales tax on entertainment-related consumer spending, including, but not limited to, movie theaters and sporting events.

Imposes state and local sales tax on purchases of prewritten software, digital audio, audio-visual and text files, digital photographs, games, and other electronically delivered entertainment services.

Imposes a sales tax on transportation-related consumer spending, including, but not limited to, taxis, limousines and buses.

Imposes sales tax on television and radio services provided by cable, satellite or other similar means.

Imposes an additional 18 percent rate of sales and compensating use taxes on fruit drinks that contain less than 70 percent of natural fruit juice and non dietetic soft drinks, sodas and beverages.

Modifies the taxation of cigars to impose a tax of $0.50 per cigar to simplify the administration of the tax. The current tax is equal to 37 percent of the wholesale price or approximately 34 cents per cigar.

Increases the excise tax on wine and beer to approximately the average of surrounding states. The tax on wine would increase from 18.9 cents per gallon to 51 cents per gallon, and the beer tax would increase from 11 cents per gallon to 24 cents per gallon.

Increases registration fees for most vehicles and fees for distinctive plates by 25 percent. The average vehicle registration fee will increase from $44 to $55.

Increases original and renewal driver's license fees by 25 percent. A standard eight-year renewal will now cost $62.50, up from $50.

Creates a new fee of $10 for filing a paper personal income tax return, which will encourage individuals to file via the Internet.

Establishes a new marine fishing license at a cost of $19 for state residents and $40 for out-of-state individuals.

Raises administrative fees for various park activities, such as camping, cabin rentals, golf, and marina usage, as well as for Empire Passports, passes and permits.

Increases the cigarette and tobacco retailer fee from $100 to $1,000 for retailers with gross sales of less than $1 million, to $2,500 for retailers with gross sales of $1 million but less than $10 million, and to $5,000 for retailers with gross sales of $10 million or more.

Imposes an additional sales tax on luxury goods. This proposal would impose a 5 percent tax on the price of the following items in excess of the following thresholds: $60,000 for cars, $200,000 for vessels (including but not limited to yachts); $20,000 for jewelry and furs; and $500,000 for noncommercial aircrafts.

Increases the biannual physician registration fee from $600 to $1,000.

**IronAddict** · 12-16-2008, 05:52 PM

Geez, as if NYkers don't already pay up the ass...One more reason to add to the laundry list of, Why I'm glad I don't live in New York!

**min0 lee** · 12-16-2008, 06:00 PM

This is crazy, your right IA, we already pay a lot.

**min0 lee** · 12-16-2008, 06:03 PM

Makes me even want to move to ...gag...New Jersey.

**IronAddict** · 12-16-2008, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Makes me even want to move to ...gag...New Jersey.

Something tells me, that this is the begining of bad things to come...Arnold says that Cal. is gonna be bankrupt by the end of Feb. He's already talking about raising taxes on everything we already pay taxes on. I wouldn't doubt that something like this isn't already being tossed around in Sacramento.

And for that Texan guy... He's a Republican.

**Crono1000** · 12-16-2008, 06:39 PM

i don't feel like reading all that but I heard a 15% tax was proposed for junk food. The example given was that a coke would cost more than a diet coke.

i heard this on some angry republican radio show. probably rush or something

edit: it was rush.

**min0 lee** · 12-16-2008, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by IronAddict

Something tells me, that this is the begining of bad things to come...Arnold says that Cal. is gonna be bankrupt by the end of Feb. He's already talking about raising taxes on everything we already pay taxes on. I wouldn't doubt that something like this isn't already being tossed around in Sacramento.

And for that Texan guy... He's a Republican.

Knowing him he'll say Arnold is a closet Democrat.

**min0 lee** · 12-16-2008, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Crono1000

i don't feel like reading all that but I heard a 15% tax was proposed for junk food. The example given was that a coke would cost more than a diet coke.

i heard this on some angry republican radio show. probably rush or something

edit: it was rush.

An "iPod tax" that charges state and local sales tax for "digitally delivered entertainment services" - in other words, that new Beyonce song you download.

Higher taxes on wine, beer and flavored malt beverages. He would also impose an 18% tax on non-nutritional drinks like soda.

**lucifuge** · 12-16-2008, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

An "iPod tax" that charges state and local sales tax for "digitally delivered entertainment services" - in other words, that new Beyonce song you download.

Higher taxes on wine, beer and flavored malt beverages. He would also impose an 18% tax on non-nutritional drinks like soda.

don't forget the camping tax!
honestly.... how can you tax someone for camping ?!?!?

**IronAddict** · 12-16-2008, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

An "iPod tax" that charges state and local sales tax for "digitally delivered entertainment services" - in other words, that new Beyonce song you download.

Higher taxes on wine, beer and flavored malt beverages. He would also impose an 18% tax on non-nutritional drinks like soda.

Originally Posted by lucifuge

don't forget the camping tax!
honestly.... how can you tax someone for camping ?!?!?

Man, that sucks royally. some of those are just downright silly. How about we just legalize marijuana, thats like 6 million a year easily, in every state!

**min0 lee** · 12-16-2008, 07:20 PM

We already pay some of the highest rents and mortgages out there, the only thing that offsets this is the money we make.

In small cities like Rochester they are lucky real estate is cheaper.

**tucker01** · 12-17-2008, 07:11 AM

Well.... that determines I won't be back to New York this Summer. Guess I will go to Chicago and see Wrigley Field.

**deathbypoops** · 12-17-2008, 08:36 AM

FUCK that blind prick!!!!! holy shit!!! us NY'ers need to get sawed off shotguns, and shoot everyone in the face!! its easy for these rich a-holes to tax tax tax tax and give "financial" advice, when they don't give a FUCK! god i hate everyone

side note: did you see that SNL skit with them making fun of him? hahaha good stuff!! then on FOX 5 news that had some blind dude saying "well that skit was offensive to all blind people and stereotyped them"...first..blind people cant see...is that a stereotype? haha and how the FUCK WOULD YOU KNOW IF THE SKIT WAS OFFENSIVE? YOU DIDNT EVEN SEE THE SKIT!! HAHAHA

**TrojanMan60563** · 12-17-2008, 11:51 AM

Makes personal services (such as beauty, barbering, manicure, pedicure, massage, health salon or gymnasium services) and credit rating and reporting services subject to sales tax statewide. Currently, only New York City sales tax applies to these services. Shouldn't these things be taxed?

Imposes a sales tax on entertainment-related consumer spending, including, but not limited to, movie theaters and sporting events. Is this for the ticket, or the theater to pay? Isn't tax already figured in the price of the ticket? Prices to see a movie are already high. I assumed when you buy a ball game ticket the tax is included.

Imposes state and local sales tax on purchases of prewritten software, digital audio, audio-visual and text files, digital photographs, games, and other electronically delivered entertainment services. That would be hard to track considering 99% don't actually pay for the stuff.

Imposes a sales tax on transportation-related consumer spending, including, but not limited to, taxis, limousines and buses. Isn't take already built into the costs of these services?

Imposes sales tax on television and radio services provided by cable, satellite or other similar means. I don't know about NY but here in Chicago we already pay a shit ton of taxes for these things

Imposes an additional 18 percent rate of sales and compensating use taxes on fruit drinks that contain less than 70 percent of natural fruit juice and non dietetic soft drinks, sodas and beverages. This could push juice companies to actually sell you juice! Eating shit food is a luxury and should be taxed higher. It costs tax payers more to care for these people when they end up with endless health issues for eating like slobs all the time. Now they can pay the difference.

Modifies the taxation of cigars to impose a tax of $0.50 per cigar to simplify the administration of the tax. The current tax is equal to 37 percent of the wholesale price or approximately 34 cents per cigar. Where is the problem?

Increases the excise tax on wine and beer to approximately the average of surrounding states. The tax on wine would increase from 18.9 cents per gallon to 51 cents per gallon, and the beer tax would increase from 11 cents per gallon to 24 cents per gallon. Why should NY not pay as much as everyone else? Taxing booze and cigs are the easiest way to make $.

Increases registration fees for most vehicles and fees for distinctive plates by 25 percent. The average vehicle registration fee will increase from $44 to $55. I wish I only paid $44 or even $55 for my registration. Its $79 here in IL so quit crying!

Increases original and renewal driver's license fees by 25 percent. A standard eight-year renewal will now cost $62.50, up from $50. When is the last time it was increased? 20 years ago? Someone has to pay those people to sit there all day.

Creates a new fee of $10 for filing a paper personal income tax return, which will encourage individuals to file via the Internet. Go green...buy the paper if you need to write on it. Someone has to pay for all those tax forms being printed right?

Establishes a new marine fishing license at a cost of $19 for state residents and $40 for out-of-state individuals. Doesn't everyone have to pay to fish? Duh!

Raises administrative fees for various park activities, such as camping, cabin rentals, golf, and marina usage, as well as for Empire Passports, passes and permits. I don't agree with this. Parks and preserves are supposed to be free for the people. This is BS.

Increases the cigarette and tobacco retailer fee from $100 to $1,000 for retailers with gross sales of less than $1 million, to $2,500 for retailers with gross sales of $1 million but less than $10 million, and to $5,000 for retailers with gross sales of $10 million or more. This is a great idea.

Imposes an additional sales tax on luxury goods. This proposal would impose a 5 percent tax on the price of the following items in excess of the following thresholds: $60,000 for cars, $200,000 for vessels (including but not limited to yachts); $20,000 for jewelry and furs; and $500,000 for noncommercial aircrafts. If you can afford the yacht you can afford the tax increase. Rich people quit crying! You already take advantage of every tax break in the world and pay less then you should, not to mention you are probably writing off the yacht as a business expense any fuckin way.

Increases the biannual physician registration fee from $600 to $1,000. Seriously I think they can afford to pay a little more to practice. Think about it people! It costs me more to see a doctor every year due to insurance premium increases. Why shouldn't some of this be passed on to doctors. Fuck my deductible is $1000 before I even see a benefit. I wouldn't be offended if they increased their BIANNUAL fee to $5000. Again I am sure its a write off anyways.

**maniclion** · 12-17-2008, 12:45 PM

You can't charge extra tax for a haircut that's as basic a necessity as eating, or do they favor the unkempt hippie look? And gym services should be untaxed to promote good health, thats complete bullshit.....

**largepkg** · 12-17-2008, 01:18 PM

Wonderful, now more of you bastards are going to move here to south Florida.

**tucker01** · 12-17-2008, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by largepkg

Wonderful, now more of you bastards are going to move here to south Florida.

Don't displace the Canadians

**ecco** · 12-17-2008, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by largepkg

Wonderful, now more of you bastards are going to move here to south Florida.

That's the last place I would go

**largepkg** · 12-17-2008, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Don't displace the Canadians

Agreed, the canadians are at least nice quiet people. Unless behind the wheel of their car.

**tucker01** · 12-17-2008, 01:40 PM

Ah I leave for Florida tomorrow night.... right before the snow storm up here... can't wait

Just my forwarning to you Floridians this Canadian will be driving in your state.

**largepkg** · 12-17-2008, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Ah I leave for Florida tomorrow night.... right before the snow storm up here... can't wait

Just my forwarning to you Floridians this Canadian will be driving in your state.

Just do me a favor. Get the fuck out of the left lane when someone wants to pass you. Actually don't ever get in the left lane to begin with.

That's all for now.

**tucker01** · 12-17-2008, 01:43 PM

I always stay to the right.... it is the asshat americans that lane hog.

**largepkg** · 12-17-2008, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

I always stay to the right.... it is the asshat americans that lane hog.

Nah, those would be the New Yorkers! Hardly Americans.

**min0 lee** · 12-17-2008, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by largepkg

Wonderful, now more of you bastards are going to move here to south Florida.

Originally Posted by ecco

That's the last place I would go

I agree!

**min0 lee** · 12-17-2008, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by largepkg

Nah, those would be the New Yorkers! Hardly Americans.

This is true, here in NYC you see people all do 50 MPh on all three lanes side by side......why they don't leave the passing lane open is beyond me.

Lee drives like that.

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