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    Could Drivers Face Total Cell Phone Bans?

    These other idiots screwed it up for the hands free users.
    I think the hands free is safer than putting a cellphone on your ear.
    To me the hands free is the same as having a chatty passenger.


    ABC News: Could Drivers Face Total Cell Phone Bans?

    Group Launches Campaign to Convince Businesses and States to Enact Ban

    By LISA STARK
    Jan. 12, 2009—

    To many Americans, driving a car without being able to talk on a cell phone might seems like a trip back to the dark ages. But that's just what the National Safety Council would like to see -- a ban on all cell phone use by drivers.

    Today, the safety group is launching a nationwide effort to try to convince businesses and state legislatures to forbid drivers from using any cell phone -- hand-held or hands-free -- while behind the wheel.

    "The science tells [us] when [we're] on the phone while driving, it is a high risk activity -- very, very risky," said Janet Froetscher, president and CEO of the National Safety Council. "But most people don't understand that."

    Having a cell phone conversation while driving has become so common that 80 percent of drivers say they've done it, according to a May 2008 Nationwide Insurance poll. More than 40 percent of those surveyed said they'd been hit or almost hit by another driver who was talking on a cell phone.

    Many drivers believe they're safe if they're using a hands-free phone, but research has shown otherwise. A 2005 study by The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety found that drivers using cell phones were four times as likely to have an accident involving an injury, according to Ann McCartt, senior vice president for research at IIHS.

    McCartt said that was true for those using either a hand-held or hands-free device.

    "I think there is still a big misconception among drivers and policy makers, intuitively, that a hands-free phone would be safer," she said. "And there may be a margin of safety there, but it is still unsafe."

    The reason, according to researchers, is that either way, a driver is distracted by the conversation.

    Scientists at Carnegie Mellon University studied the brain waves of drivers using cell phones and concluded that listening alone reduced the amount of brain activity devoted to driving by 37 percent. The quality of their driving showed a "significant deterioration," according to the study released last year.

    "What the research is saying [is] it is an enormous distraction if you're on the phone and you're not paying attention to what is going on around you," Froetscher said.

    The Council said a study by the Harvard Center of Risk Analysis estimated that cell phone use on the road contributes to 6 percent of all accidents and as many as 2,600 deaths per year.

    At least 17 states and the District of Columbia ban all cell phone use by first-time drivers, but no state forbids adults from using cell phones in cars. Six states -- California, Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, Utah and Washington -- as well as the District of Columbia, forbid all drivers from using hand-held cell phones.

    So the Council is starting at ground zero and admits it will be a tough sell.

    "I think the hard part is many of us have grown used to using our cell phone on the road," Froetscher said. "And it's hard for us to give [it] up."

    But an industry trade association thinks the council is going too far.

    "There are some real-life scenarios where those are important phone calls that you need to make or take," said John Walls, spokesman for The Wireless Association, such as calling to say you'll be late to pick up a child at day care or a call from your teenager trying to reach you because the movie let out early.

    "A sensible, a responsible and a brief phone call, we think, can be made and sometimes needs to be made in order for life's everyday challenges to be met," Walls said.

    Walls also disputed the council's view that talking on a cell phone while driving is inherently dangerous, saying the overall number of highway accidents have declined, even as cell phone use has skyrocketed.

    Even groups that support a cell phone ban in vehicles aren't sure that passing legislation will prove effective.

    "I don't think outright bans are enforceable," said Barbara Harsha, executive director of the Governors Highway Safety Association. "That's the biggest problem. So what is the point of passing a law that you can't enforce?"

    Harsha said she does believe this is a "growing, pervasive, problem," but said, "It's an issue in search of a good countermeasure." Some believe technology that will disable cell phones while in a moving vehicle will ultimately prove to be the answer. Another solution: Convincing businesses to ban cell phone use while employees are driving on the job.

    Companies are increasingly doing just that. Oil giant Exxon-Mobil was in the forefront of this movement, and four years ago told all employees to stop making or taking cell phone calls while driving.

    Thomas Kelly, an operations manager for the company who drives about 1,500 miles per month for business, admitted it was difficult to break the habit.

    "It was a temptation," he said. "You look at the cell phone, it would be ringing, and you'd say, should I pick it up or should I not?"

    Kelly, who carries both a work and a personal cell phone, now turns them off in the car. He said he's gotten used to just concentrating on his driving and even makes it a practice to follow the rule on his own time.

    "People were really upset when the policy first went into effect." Exxon-Mobil spokesman Chris Welbury said. "We didn't want people to have to make a choice between safety and business. We will make that choice for them."

    Welbury said the policy has not hurt productivity.

    The National Safety Council admits that any effort to ban cell phones in vehicles will take years of work, whether it succeeds at all. The council likens it to campaigns to require seatbelts and child safety seats in cars and to strengthen drunken driving laws. At first drivers opposed many of those efforts. Now, they say this is accepted practice on the road, and few would want it any other way.

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    Next some asshole will say ban radio's in cars cause they are a distraction....some people need to distract themselves out of my business before they have to extract themselves from their own ass....
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    I guess they're using grade school logic...
    one person screws it up for everybody else!
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    This would be great... no more kids in the car (they are a distraction).... no more wife in the Car) extreme distraction."turn here....your following to close"

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    Is it legal in the states to drive while talking on your cell without hands free?

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    As of January 1st.... I don't think so anymore.

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    This article is from CBS? "To many Americans"? Geez...
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
    of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
    about another group that actually does something
    to improve their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    This article is from CBS? "To many Americans"? Geez...
    Would For many Americans be better?

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    Sure, fore Americans would be fine.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
    of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
    about another group that actually does something
    to improve their lives.

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    I dun't get it? What's wrong with "to" in that sentence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    This article is from CBS? "To many Americans"? Geez...
    To many Americans, driving a car without being able to talk on a cell phone might seems like a trip back to the dark ages.
    This is proper usage of the word "to"

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    DOMS, I think you just read it wrong.
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    I think you're correct.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
    of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
    about another group that actually does something
    to improve their lives.

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    I think this conversation is a bit odd.

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    I think I'm turned on by this ever so pleasant misunderstanding.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
    of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
    about another group that actually does something
    to improve their lives.

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    what if it's the sitter calling to tell you your child had an accident and is being taken to the ER?

    is it dangerous for police and ambulance drivers to talk on their radios?

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    In NYC they have 2 people in the front cab, the person in the suicide seat works the 2 way.
    If you see only 1 driver while the bus is in service that means the other EMT is in the back with a patient.

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    i see

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