Thread: Bush's Final Approval Rating: 22 Percent

Originally Posted by min0 lee

After back surgery I started to like the Oxy cotin a bit too much......but I never stood on a soap box and condemned those who are hooked on them.

You missed my point min0...

Originally Posted by min0 lee

He'll get a hard-on if Obama fails, Obama fails so do Americans.

He wants the far-left direction Obama wants to take us to fail & move towards conservatism, he doesn't want America to fail.


You want lay that on someone, lay it at the Democratic party who openly pushed & hoped for our failure in Iraq so their party can come to power..

E.G. Murtha, Reid, Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy, Clinton, Obama, Biden... pretty much all of the leaders.

Originally Posted by DOMS

I can't speak for busy, but I don't listen to Rush (or any other political pundit for that matter) but I understand how he ended up there.

Getting hooked on pain meds is an easy, slippery slope. They are legal and a great many people take them for many legitimate reasons. Physical pain can be a harsh mistress. I know, I've dated her a lot.

For the record, I only use aspirin, and I've taken it an average of 6 pills a year. But I've seen many friends and family fight with pain. It's an horrific life when it's chronic. If you have to take it for an extended time, it becomes not only a chemical habit, but also a daily, physical, habit.

Pain meds are a far cry from recreational drugs. I can't imagine that anyone has ever taken their first drag off of a cigarettes and said, "Damn! This tastes like candy!" Cigarettes taste like shit. People smoke because they were weak-willed. They did it because they saw their friends (or maybe family) do it and wanted to be included. I believe that the other hard-core drugs fall into the same category. I can't believe that taking a hit off a crack pipe tastes like cotton candy or that sticking yourself with a needle qualifies as a "fun time."

I've smoked pot on occasion, and the very first time that I did, it was with others who were doing the same. It was my moment of being weak-willed. On a side note, pot brownies rock.

The only drug that I exempt from the above group is alcohol. It, like pain meds, is a slippery slope. It tastes good, it's legal, and it easily becomes a habit. Not that I condone its abuse, but I understand how it starts.

Granted, there are some people out there that take illegal drugs to deal with pain when they can't get legal meds. But they are so minimal in number that they don't statistically count.

Then there are those that use illegal drugs because they have suffered some mental/emotional pain. Tough shit. It's just another moment of being weak-willed. Instead of following the crowd, they're taking the quick easy way out. Never mind that it leads to a much tougher long-term.

I grew up in a life of abject poverty with no real future to look forward to. I was shown a life of getting nothing of value, working in dead end jobs, and being looked down on by others. I've had some very emotionally painful moments in my life. I didn't resort to drugs to dull the pain. Instead, I chose to change my circumstances. I didn't take the weak-willed, easy way out.

I know little to nothing about Rush, but I'm willing to bet that he voiced out against illegal drugs long before he got hooked on the pain killers. For the reasons that I've stated, I don't find that hypocritical at all. It would be hypocritical if he said that it's easy to break an addiction, which I haven't heard him say, but he may have.

I'd also like to say that those that have broken addictions are incredible people.

Again, for those that are going to get their panties in a bunch because I'm "defending" a Republican pundit: you're missing my point. My stance on this issue has nothing to do with politics in any way, shape, or form. Instead, it's based, almost Buddhist-like*, on seeing things the way they really are.

My point is that people (doctors) will legally put you on pain meds that may lead down a slippery slope. While those that use the hard-core illegal drugs that Rush said are crap are fucking stupid and did it to themselves.

* One last side note, if you've never read Wherever You Go, There You Are, you're really should do yourself the service.

I agree 100% that legally prescribed pharmaceuticals can be a slippery slope into addiction.

And I wouldn't hold it against a single person who was in his situation except he has spewed his garbage for so many years about what should happen to drug offenders and every other thing that he doesn't know one fucking thing about.

When it is somebody else's life and somebody else's situation, Rush expected them to be thrown in jail. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds. I'm not talking about dealers. I am talking about somebody who is sick and needs help, but instead what they get is jail time. Well Rush didn't get jail time, and then he violated is fucking probation smuggling in somebody else's penis pills. Anybody else but Rush would have done time for that shit.

He wasn't just an addict, he had no respect for the law. I don't have respect for the law either, but I don't go on a radio program denouncing and saying hurtful things about people in bad situations and that they should do time.

I want one of two things to happen. I want Rush to do time, or I want him to man up and admit that he said terrible things about people and their situation which he had no understanding of. I want him to admit that he was wrong.

I won't get that. He won't have to face any consequences, and he won't ever go back and try to correct anything that he has ever said. He will never have any compassion for other people and their situation.

Originally Posted by busyLivin

Let's call President Barack a druggy/junkie for all the illegal drugs he admitted he did for years.. i think the quote was "I did anything I could get my hands on." I wonder what other laws he's breaking, eh min0?

Nonsense.

What the fuck does that have to do with this? I'm a druggie too. Whether you do or don't do drugs isn't the issue. The issue is why you refuse to demand any accountability towards Rush.

If Obama came on TV raising hell about how drug offenders should do time and bla bla bla, then got caught twice with illegal rpescription drugs, I would be just as pissed off towards Obama as Rush.

Originally Posted by KelJu

I agree 100% that legally prescribed pharmaceuticals can be a slippery slope into addiction.

And I wouldn't hold it against a single person who was in his situation except he has spewed his garbage for so many years about what should happen to drug offenders and every other thing that he doesn't know one fucking thing about.

When it is somebody else's life and somebody else's situation, Rush expected them to be thrown in jail. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds. I'm not talking about dealers. I am talking about somebody who is sick and needs help, but instead what they get is jail time. Well Rush didn't get jail time, and then he violated is fucking probation smuggling in somebody else's penis pills. Anybody else but Rush would have done time for that shit.

He wasn't just an addict, he had no respect for the law. I don't have respect for the law either, but I don't go on a radio program denouncing and saying hurtful things about people in bad stations and that they should do time.

I want one of two things to happen. I want Rush to do time, or I want him to man up and admit that he said terrible things about people and their situation which he had no understanding of. I want him to admit that he was wrong.

I won't get that. He won't have to face any consequences, and he won't ever go back and try to correct anything that he has ever said. He will never have any compassion for other people and their situation.

Did he ever speak poorly of those on pain meds? Keep in mind that the preceding question is just that, a question. I don't know if he did or not.

As for putting the boot to those that have repeatedly used illegal drugs, I'm okay with that.

Oh, and I really think that you'd enjoy the book that I recommended.

Originally Posted by KelJu

If Obama came on TV raising hell about how drug offenders should do time and bla bla bla, then got caught twice with illegal rpescription drugs, I would be just as pissed off towards Obama as Rush.

For the record, I wouldn't be. But he'd need to step down as president.

The book about meditation?

Originally Posted by DOMS

For the record, I wouldn't be. But he'd need to step down as president.

It depends on a lot of different factors for me to decide that.

my stepfather had such bad back pain that when his kidneys stopped working and the waste backed up into his bloodstream almost killing him he didn't notice anything unusual. he was used to that amount of pain. his doctors gave him tons of meds. what worked best? pot.

The Rush talk started because of what he said in the Video.
Obama fails we all fail.

Originally Posted by KelJu

The book about meditation?

Yes, that one. The only part that I didn't care for were the last two chapters. He goes on a big anti-religion rant, which does't, by his estimation, include Buddhism. Other than that, he teaches the Buddhist method of meditation and outlook. That's to say, trying to just see things as they are.