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Old 01-28-2009, 08:16 AM   #61
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I think the rest of my post showed that. Hey, I'm a gear junkie. I think if someone has the money for their particular interest they should go nuts.
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I am a gear junky with guns as well as a pragmatist also however. You're missing some key points. 1911s are the ultimate in "gun gear" in terms of tweaks, configurations, etc, etc. 2 of mine are hand built custom guns. It's a matter of quality vs. quantity. You could buy probably 6 Glocks for the price of one of my 1911s.

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good thoughts. I always figured racking a pump shotgun loudly would be a pretty intimidating sound to an intruder who didn't know their way around a dark home
I always figured the sound of my five dogs growling and viciously barking would be an intimidating sound.....and sure enough when I let them outside I see people run across the street when my dogs charge the gate as they are passing by.....



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I always figured the sound of my five dogs growling and viciously barking would be an intimidating sound.....and sure enough when I let them outside I see people run across the street when my dogs charge the gate as they are passing by.....
nice. 5 loud barking dogs and guns means you've done just about all you can.



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Im starting to consider a 1911 purchase. I've shot and loved the Taurus 1911. any thoughts or recommendations guys?
I have always been a glock guy, I have a glock 17 9mm and a .40 and it is sure one of the best guns out there, it always shoots, I shot thousands of rounds and and I only had 1 malfunction with it....I also have a stainless 1911 kimber .45 that is as sexy as they come and very accurate, it is not as easy to handle and malfunctions more often but still one damn good gun if you know what your doing.



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I have always been a glock guy, I have a glock 17 9mm and a .40 and it is sure one of the best guns out there, it always shoots, I shot thousands of rounds and and I only had 1 malfunction with it....I also have a stainless 1911 kimber .45 that is as sexy as they come and very accurate, it is not as easy to handle and malfunctions more often but still one damn good gun if you know what your doing.
Glocks don't really do it for me. I've shot them and they are accurate, and i have no doubts about the stories of reliability I have heard, but i prefer a gun with a little more sexyness to it. I also like external safeties on a gun. just personal preference here. If I was in Law enforcement I might consider a glock, but a square chunk of plastic and metal doesn't do it for me.

There are some very sexy 1911's out there. Im sure your kimber is one of them.



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I would not give Kimber a penny of my money either. Kimber and Para, totally overrated brands well known for problems.
I'd agree with you if you'd specified a NEW Para. I own two; a P-14 and a P-12, both in .45 ACP. They're both about 15 years old and have functioned flawlessly for the entire time I've owned them. Newer models seem to be having some major quality control issues. I believe it has something to do with the substandard steel they're using.

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Glocks don't really do it for me. I've shot them and they are accurate, and i have no doubts about the stories of reliability I have heard, but i prefer a gun with a little more sexyness to it. I also like external safeties on a gun. just personal preference here. If I was in Law enforcement I might consider a glock, but a square chunk of plastic and metal doesn't do it for me.

There are some very sexy 1911's out there. Im sure your kimber is one of them.
If I jsut bought guns for fun, i would never buy a glock because they are like a fat ugly wife...they are reliable, will never elt you down, will put out when you want to, is good with the children...But the unreliable blonde wiht nice tits will always be more popular.



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If I jsut bought guns for fun, i would never buy a glock because they are like a fat ugly wife...they are reliable, will never elt you down, will put out when you want to, is good with the children...But the unreliable blonde wiht nice tits will always be more popular.
there are plenty of guns out there that are reliable and sexy. you can have both in this little relationship. Sig, beretta, S&W, FHN, and many others all make reliable guns that look sexy and are reliable.



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oh comon you fucks...It took some decent efford to come up with the fat wife thing you bastards screw you all...No one even gave me props for it !!



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there are plenty of guns out there that are reliable and sexy. you can have both in this little relationship. Sig, beretta, S&W, FHN, and many others all make reliable guns that look sexy and are reliable.
well, my glock has been by my side and it has always wokred like a charm, I have shot a lot wiht this new 1911 Kimber (god damn im looking at it now and it looks soooo nice, It almost a shame that you spend so much moeny on something you hope enver to use).....All the guys at work report that their 1911 are really good...



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oh comon you fucks...It took some decent efford to come up with the fat wife thing you bastards screw you all...No one even gave me props for it !!


it just sounded like a variation of a moped joke to me



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is there anyway that we can make this a permanent gun thread for future discussions??? id rather read this every day than half of the other crappy religion debated threads where everyone gets into a civil war...not that those are somewhat educating and entertaining...lol
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I plan on continuing to post here with more questions and thoughts as I decide on which 1911 to get. This is quite a bit of money to spend on a gun so I want to make the right choice



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I plan on continuing to post here with more questions and thoughts as I decide on which 1911 to get. This is quite a bit of money to spend on a gun so I want to make the right choice
You can get an SA GI for around $500 which about the same price of most better quality new guns from Sig, Glock, etc. I wouldn't spend big money on a 1911 not having owned one before, and as mentioned, the great thing about a plane jane 1911 like the SA GI is you can ad mods to it as time goes by up to a true custom build out as you get more $$$.



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I have a quick question for will or whomever is familiar with glocks, I have a glock 21 .45 acp...I know there are a couple of popular companies that make lasergrips for certain glock models, but havent found one that will work for the model 21...anyone have any ideas of where I could find this?
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You can get an SA GI for around $500 which about the same price of most better quality new guns from Sig, Glock, etc. I wouldn't spend big money on a 1911 not having owned one before, and as mentioned, the great thing about a plane jane 1911 like the SA GI is you can ad mods to it as time goes by up to a true custom build out as you get more $$$.
I would completely agree with that statement except for one little point; the sights on the Springfield Armory GI model absolutey SUCK!!! They are exactly like the sights from WWII in that they're almost non-existant. They make accurate shooting VERY difficult. I agree, get a basic model SA, but make sure it has a good set of sights on it. You'll find the money is very well spent and you'll enjoy your shooting more.



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Shit, fuck that. If somebody was trying to hurt me or my family, I would want to hit them in the face with my Browning .30/06. He can't sue me if he doesn't have any of his head left.
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I would completely agree with that statement except for one little point; the sights on the Springfield Armory GI model absolutey SUCK!!! They are exactly like the sights from WWII in that they're almost non-existant. They make accurate shooting VERY difficult. I agree, get a basic model SA, but make sure it has a good set of sights on it. You'll find the money is very well spent and you'll enjoy your shooting more.
At combat/SD distances, I can make one small hole with that gun minus enhanced sites. It takes a while to find what type of sites you actually prefer and or do best with, so throwing high quality 3 dot Novak sites on it or what ever might be a mistake. I don't think it's a bad idea per se, but I still recommend one simply takes it home, puts at least a few thousand rnds through it, and then consider mods. Besides, if you can get good with those sites (or lack there of...) you can be good with anything!

The only added opinion to that is, yes, if the intent is longer distance slow fire target shooting, then no doubt, good sites will be very helpful. I don't know what he plans to do with it, so your advice might be good for his uses.



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isn't the purpose of a .45 for self defense to make a large hole?



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Posts like this are why gun laws are so prevalent.

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Hi, my name is bio-chem. I'm an ass face whose going to be a total prick today.
This is a big boy thread. go away until the diapers come off.



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no really. get out of this thread. unless you are going to talk about guns intelligently. i don't want this thread closed because you got butt hurt on another topic and followed me here.



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No, threads like this get closed when people stop attempting to rationally discuss the topic and start flaming each other as you did. Like he said, if you don't have an interest in the topic/something intelligent to add, don't let the screen door hit you in the ass on the way out of the thread.



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You can get an SA GI for around $500 which about the same price of most better quality new guns from Sig, Glock, etc. I wouldn't spend big money on a 1911 not having owned one before, and as mentioned, the great thing about a plane jane 1911 like the SA GI is you can ad mods to it as time goes by up to a true custom build out as you get more $$$.
New or used? If used, what do you look for in a used 1911. I don't mind purchasing used guns, but the 1911 is another type of beast for me



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