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[bio-chem]

will would have a better recomendation than I. I'm sure i would pick a caliber for concealed carry and then find the right gun for that. I mean .380 auto is going to give you different options than a .45 for concealed carry. I've got to admit that I like revolvers for concealed carry. there are some good .38specials out there for that. Lots of preferences lots of choices. what are your criteria?

[Burner02]

Well, IF...you ever had to pull a weapon, the other person seeing said weapon, whatever it would be would be an instant 'mood' changer.
I figure the bigger caliber; 45 would be a stopper. If I recall, most little weapons really aren't accurate after what...15-20 feet or much more? (not that you need more...if they are further than that, they are not a threat)
I had thought about a 38.
I just want somethig that is relatively comapct, light and 1 round will be enough.

[WillBrink]

Originally Posted by Burner02

Well, IF...you ever had to pull a weapon, the other person seeing said weapon, whatever it would be would be an instant 'mood' changer.
I figure the bigger caliber; 45 would be a stopper. If I recall, most little weapons really aren't accurate after what...15-20 feet or much more? (not that you need more...if they are further than that, they are not a threat)
I had thought about a 38.
I just want somethig that is relatively comapct, light and 1 round will be enough.

MnP series from S&W, XD series from SA, or Glock.

Any of those.

[Burner02]

thanks

[WillBrink]

Originally Posted by Burner02

thanks

Those brands/models are Reliable, well built, low maintenance, and priced right. Don't get caught up in 1911 style pistols unless you plan on dedicating yourself to 1911 style pistols, which cost more, require more training, and regular maintenance to be reliable.

[dg806]

Originally Posted by WillBrink

MnP series from S&W, XD series from SA, or Glock.

Any of those.

Yep, agree. I carry a 22c glock. It also has a laser in it. I don't won't to carry anything else. All the full time guys went to the .357 SIG. But I talked my chief into letting me keep my Glock which I have carried for 8 yrs or so now.

[The Monkey Man]

Originally Posted by WillBrink

MnP series from S&W, XD series from SA, or Glock.

Any of those.

Lets not forget H&K...

I used to carry Taurus PT145.
Capacity is 10+1 of .45, in a palm of your hand package.

DAO, Difficult to master, and I only used to pack 7rounds in it for weight savings.
I never planned to shoot anything at more than 15-20ft
and if I ever fired it, it probably would have been from the pocket
of a jacket or hoodie at point-blank range.

I had a full frame H&K USP45 for home, w/light and laser
Used +P frangible ammo in both.

[WillBrink]

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

Lets not forget H&K...

HK is well regarded, just pricey. I gave lower cost but well made and reliable brands. The HK USP .45 is one of the all time best combat handguns, but the MnP is probably 80% as good for half the price. I try not to throw too many brands at people to start with or they just get confused and end up buying something that does not fit their needs and or they could have done better for the $$$. Sig would also be a good option, etc.

I will say the MnP is currently considered the best gun for the $$$ right now by those who really know combat handguns.

[WillBrink]

Originally Posted by dg806

Yep, agree. I carry a 22c glock. It also has a laser in it. I don't won't to carry anything else. All the full time guys went to the .357 SIG. But I talked my chief into letting me keep my Glock which I have carried for 8 yrs or so now.

You are mixing calibers with brands. You can get a Glock in .357 Sig. Do they want Glocks in .357 Sig or something else? I don't see any use for the .357 Sig personally, but that's another issue...

[maniclion]

You mean you guys don't all have Sig210s?

If I carried a gun I'd have this one and wear a trenchcoat everywhere.....

[dg806]

Originally Posted by WillBrink

You are mixing calibers with brands. You can get a Glock in .357 Sig. Do they want Glocks in .357 Sig or something else? I don't see any use for the .357 Sig personally, but that's another issue...

They carry p229's (in 357). Switched from Para Ord.
I kept my glock the whole time. I don't care the the .357 Sig either.

[NightTrain]

i carry a Taurus PT145............

[The Monkey Man]

Originally Posted by NightTrain

i carry a Taurus PT145............

[bio-chem]

Hey Will. Any good .45 hand loading recipes for target/plinking? Its time to start reloading again so I was wondering if you had anything you really liked to use as a starting point as I play around trying to find what works best for me.

[WillBrink]

Originally Posted by bio-chem

Hey Will. Any good .45 hand loading recipes for target/plinking? Its time to start reloading again so I was wondering if you had anything you really liked to use as a starting point as I play around trying to find what works best for me.

Don't have any good info for you there. I'm not a reloader myself.

[bio-chem]

Originally Posted by WillBrink

Don't have any good info for you there. I'm not a reloader myself.

kind of surprising. you buy factory then?

[WillBrink]

Originally Posted by bio-chem

kind of surprising. you buy factory then?

Yes, or people I know who reload give me some. I'm surprised I don't either, but I have been too lazy to deal with it/learn it, and the factory stuff always works better then any reloads anyway in my guns, and in terms of time spent learning/doing stuff gun related, I am trying to learn some minor smithing work for 1911s, or can be found on the range or at and IDPA match, or shooting with the SWAT team I am currently working with, etc. Only so much time in the day I guess.....

[The Monkey Man]

Originally Posted by bio-chem

kind of surprising. you buy factory then?

I used to have the guys from my action league reload for my range practice
and league matches...

Even though most of the guys shot a special load, and CAL.
for target or match, I made sure the guys loaded me with a similar
weight and grain to the real stuff, so the difference wouldn't be so grand
between practice, and "oh-shit".

I paid them a bit more, but I think its worth it.

[maniclion]

Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

I used to have the guys from my action league reload for my range practice
and league matches...

Is that like the Justice League but made up of Urban Legends from different cultures, e.g Big Foot, Chupacabra, Monkey Man, Alabama Leprechaun, Min0 Lee, etc.

[The Monkey Man]

Originally Posted by maniclion

Is that like the Justice League but made up of Urban Legends from different cultures, e.g Big Foot, Chupacabra, Monkey Man, Alabama Leprechaun, Min0 Lee, etc.

You forgot the "Abbagoochie"...
and the "Mangi'"

But, no. It was a Police Action shooting league.

[The Monkey Man]

Besides...

THE MONKEY MAN,

is far superior to that of your other creatures,

and the non reinforced alloy superstructure of your
broken-down rusted-out shit box.

[dg806]

Originally Posted by WillBrink

Yes, or people I know who reload give me some. I'm surprised I don't either, but I have been too lazy to deal with it/learn it, and the factory stuff always works better then any reloads anyway in my guns, and in terms of time spent learning/doing stuff gun related, I am trying to learn some minor smithing work for 1911s, or can be found on the range or at and IDPA match, or shooting with the SWAT team I am currently working with, etc. Only so much time in the day I guess.....

It's not actually hard at all. With any initial investment of under 1k, you can have all you need. Someone like you who does a lot of shooting, could save a ton of money. I shoot some of my reloads and never have problems.
But it does take time to do it. And some people are pressed for time.

[WillBrink]

Originally Posted by dg806

It's not actually hard at all. With any initial investment of under 1k, you can have all you need. Someone like you who does a lot of shooting, could save a ton of money. I shoot some of my reloads and never have problems.
But it does take time to do it. And some people are pressed for time.

No doubt, I really should learn it. It's on my list!

[dg806]

Originally Posted by WillBrink

No doubt, I really should learn it. It's on my list!

I highly recommend Dillion. Be sure to sign up for the monthly Blue Press magazine.
Dillon Precision: Reloaders, Reloading Equipment, Bullet Reloading, Bullet Reloaders

[WillBrink]

Originally Posted by dg806

I highly recommend Dillion. Be sure to sign up for the monthly Blue Press magazine.
Dillon Precision: Reloaders, Reloading Equipment, Bullet Reloading, Bullet Reloaders

Many have recommended the Dillon brand to me.

[bio-chem]

any good reloading manuals out there?

[slackadjuster]

I've been hitting the local gun shows for paper punchers. It's getting pricey!
Oh yeah....new here..sorry..Springfield XD40.

This is better than the gun boards I go to.

[min0 lee]

At first I said nice gun but then I saw the cup holder and I was like wow.

[Burner02]

An interesting letter in the Australian Shooter Magazine
this week, which I quote:





"If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theater of operations during the past 22 months, and a total of 2112 deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

The firearm death rate in Washington DC is 80.6 per 100,000 for the same period. That means you are about 25 per cent more likely to be shot and killed in the US capital, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the US, than you are in Iraq .

Conclusion? The US should pull out of Washington .."

[dg806]

Originally Posted by slackadjuster

I've been hitting the local gun shows for paper punchers. It's getting pricey!
Oh yeah....new here..sorry..Springfield XD40.

This is better than the gun boards I go to.

The XD40 is nice!