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[ALBOB]

Originally Posted by bio-chem

well in truth I know exactly how it has been stored. it's been stored in a room my father built in his garage for reloading. It's been kept at a constant temperature between 65-80 degrees F in the closed canisters the powder was sold in and humidity is not an issue because I grew up in southeastern washington, which is a desert. pretty much as good as conditions as one could ask for.

Im not opposed to purchasing new. money isn't the concern, just curious to the shelf life of powder and primers when kept properly.

Those are the key words. If you're absolutely sure (Sure enough to bet your eyes, fingers and/or hands on) it's been stored properly, there really is no shelf life on powder and primers.

[bio-chem]

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Those are the key words. If you're absolutely sure (Sure enough to bet your eyes, fingers and/or hands on) it's been stored properly, there really is no shelf life on powder and primers.

good to know. thanks for the experience and advice.

[maniclion]

Originally Posted by bio-chem

good to know. thanks for the experience and advice.

I would google around and see if there are any tests to do before hand to make sure your stuff is still good.....

[Little Wing]

how expensive would it be to just replace it? you can't replace "your eyes, fingers and/or hands".

[bio-chem]

Originally Posted by maniclion

I would google around and see if there are any tests to do before hand to make sure your stuff is still good.....

this isn't the only place i've been asking around about.

[bio-chem]

time for another range update, and a question. So I took the 1911 out for another range session this time with some handloaded ammunition. used 5.4g W231 under a 230g FMJ if your wondering. light load and a good one for re-learning to reload on.

Now for the question. have any of you guys seen this before? twice this happened to me today, once with a handload, and once with a factory round. on the last shot of a magazine the spent case would be partially loaded back into the magazine. Once far enough that you could actually drop the magazine from the gun with the spent casing still in it. The slide would be locked back and this is not a "stove pipe" at least not as far as I understand the term to be used. Has anyone seen this before? I didn't think till afterward to check if it happened in the same magazine. (they will each be marked in the future) just curious what the thoughts may be on this guys?

[Will Brink]

Originally Posted by bio-chem

time for another range update, and a question. So I took the 1911 out for another range session this time with some handloaded ammunition. used 5.4g W231 under a 230g FMJ if your wondering. light load and a good one for re-learning to reload on.

Now for the question. have any of you guys seen this before? twice this happened to me today, once with a handload, and once with a factory round. on the last shot of a magazine the spent case would be partially loaded back into the magazine. Once far enough that you could actually drop the magazine from the gun with the spent casing still in it. The slide would be locked back and this is not a "stove pipe" at least not as far as I understand the term to be used. Has anyone seen this before? I didn't think till afterward to check if it happened in the same magazine. (they will each be marked in the future) just curious what the thoughts may be on this guys?

I would go by process of elimination and go back to the range and follow which mags, ammo, etc, it's doing it with. It's also a new gun with (I assume) minimal rnds through it, and 1911s usually need a break in period of 300-500 rnds for production guns, and up to 1000 for custom guns. Some will bipass the break in period and be 100% out of the box ( I have had a few of those too) but most need it. You might want to ditch the mags the gun came with and get either Chip McCormics or Wilson. Those two seem to be the most trusted and reliable brands. If the gun was older, I would tell you to change mag springs, recoil spring, etc, but I doubt that's the issue at this point. Get 3-500 rnds through it, then consider it an actual problem at that point. Some 1911s can be picky about ammo also, but the SA is usually not one of them, but it's possible.

[bio-chem]

Originally Posted by WillBrink

I would go by process of elimination and go back to the range and follow which mags, ammo, etc, it's doing it with. It's also a new gun with (I assume) minimal rnds through it, and 1911s usually need a break in period of 300-500 rnds for production guns, and up to 1000 for custom guns. Some will bipass the break in period and be 100% out of the box ( I have had a few of those too) but most need it. You might want to ditch the mags the gun came with and get either Chip McCormics or Wilson. Those two seem to be the most trusted and reliable brands. If the gun was older, I would tell you to change mag springs, recoil spring, etc, but I doubt that's the issue at this point. Get 3-500 rnds through it, then consider it an actual problem at that point. Some 1911s can be picky about ammo also, but the SA is usually not one of them, but it's possible.

good advice. It was pretty much what I was thinking of doing moving forward. it's nice to have it confirmed by one more knowledgable.

[Will Brink]

Originally Posted by bio-chem

good advice. It was pretty much what I was thinking of doing moving forward. it's nice to have it confirmed by one more knowledgable.

I would use good quality range ammo, such as Winchester White box, which is consistent good stuff, during the first 3-500 rnds. If you are using hand loads and various ammo, it's hard to know if it's a gun issue or an ammo issue when things go wrong. It's important to be consistent with mags and ammo with a new 1911 so you know where to look if problems arise.

My high end S&W PC 1911 took at least 1000rnds to really smooth out and now it will shoot pretty much anything with pretty much any mag I have, but it's important to learn early (like children!) if you got a fussy one, so consistency and having as few variables as possible is important early.

You should be tracking exactly how many rnds you have done in a note pad, which also removes the guess work.

Guess work and guns don't mix well....

[dg806]

Originally Posted by WillBrink

I would go by process of elimination and go back to the range and follow which mags, ammo, etc, it's doing it with. It's also a new gun with (I assume) minimal rnds through it, and 1911s usually need a break in period of 300-500 rnds for production guns, and up to 1000 for custom guns. Some will bipass the break in period and be 100% out of the box ( I have had a few of those too) but most need it. You might want to ditch the mags the gun came with and get either Chip McCormics or Wilson. Those two seem to be the most trusted and reliable brands. If the gun was older, I would tell you to change mag springs, recoil spring, etc, but I doubt that's the issue at this point. Get 3-500 rnds through it, then consider it an actual problem at that point. Some 1911s can be picky about ammo also, but the SA is usually not one of them, but it's possible.

Not to discredit any of Will's advice but.......... I know on Glocks and I assume probably any SA, if you don't keep your wrist tight and have a "limp wrist" it will actually cause this exact thing. The only other thing I can think of is if the gun has a comp barrell. I have one on a 22c and if I shoot anything lighter than a 165g bullet, it will jam like this. It doesn't create enough back pressure with the gas escaping the comp barrell to seat it properly. But I don't think that is the problem in your case.

[Will Brink]

Originally Posted by dg806

Not to discredit any of Will's advice but.......... I know on Glocks and I assume probably any SA, if you don't keep your wrist tight and have a "limp wrist" it will actually cause this exact thing. The only other thing I can think of is if the gun has a comp barrell. I have one on a 22c and if I shoot anything lighter than a 165g bullet, it will jam like this. It doesn't create enough back pressure with the gas escaping the comp barrell to seat it properly. But I don't think that is the problem in your case.

Good point. I was thinking strictly of the gun vs the user. Limp wristing the gun would do that also. Good catch.

[maniclion]

Ha ha, they said you're Limp Wristed.....you fairy.....

[clemson357]

Originally Posted by Little Wing

where we live there's not much need for self defense but i think marksmanship is a legitimate sport.

where i live there isn't much need for airbags or seatbelts. I haven't needed them yet!

[Will Brink]

Originally Posted by maniclion

Ha ha, they said you're Limp Wristed.....you fairy.....

Celine does not approve!

[dg806]

THat is one hot pic!

[IainDaniel]

Celine = gross.

[Will Brink]

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Celine = gross.

Don't be a hater!

[bio-chem]

How the hell did my thread turn into this?



Please continue...



Manic, limp wristed is definitely not the problem

[Little Wing]

Originally Posted by clemson357

where i live there isn't much need for airbags or seatbelts. I haven't needed them yet!

I have to temper my desire to own a gun or 15 with the knowledge that I am not 100% sure my 12 year old son would respect very important safety rules yet. He hasn't grasped the NEVER point an airsoft pellet gun at people one yet.

[Little Wing]

Why Switzerland Has The Lowest Crime Rate In The World

YouTube Video

listen to what he says near the end.

[bio-chem]

Originally Posted by Little Wing

Why Switzerland Has The Lowest Crime Rate In The World




listen to what he says near the end.

the entire reason for the second amendment right there. It would be nice if more american's understood that principle.

[Patrick Bateman]

Originally Posted by bio-chem

the entire reason for the second amendment right there. It would be nice if more american's understood that principle.

Switzerland is a much better nation than America in most ways if not all. As for American and the constitution, well it has never been followed and most of the people are not educated enough or properly to even consider defending it.

[bio-chem]

Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

Switzerland is a much better nation than America in most ways if not all. As for American and the constitution, well it has never been followed and most of the people are not educated enough or properly to even consider defending it.

despite the fact that i disagree with everything you just said, any chance you would care to explain what you're point is?

[Patrick Bateman]

Originally Posted by bio-chem

despite the fact that i disagree with everything you just said, any chance you would care to explain what you're point is?

Sure, Americans are not educated enough to know their rights so over the years they have lost many of them. The second amendment was a gift that Americans threw away a long time ago.

[bio-chem]

Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

Sure, Americans are not educated enough to know their rights so over the years they have lost many of them. The second amendment was a gift that Americans threw away a long time ago.

[Patrick Bateman]

That's about what I expected from you.

[Robert]

[bio-chem]

Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

That's about what I expected from you.

if you want to start an "americans are stupid thread" feel free. This thread started out as a thread for discussing other forums about guns and has turned into a general question/answer thread about firearms. I have no intention of getting into a flaming war with you and having this moved to the anything goes forum. feel free to find yourself out of this thread.

[Patrick Bateman]

Originally Posted by bio-chem

if you want to start an "americans are stupid thread" feel free. This thread started out as a thread for discussing other forums about guns and has turned into a general question/answer thread about firearms. I have no intention of getting into a flaming war with you and having this moved to the anything goes forum. feel free to find yourself out of this thread.

Yes, a general question/answer thread....and I answered your question. If you don't like the answer don't start making faces with emotion gifs, just move on or answer in a mature manner.

Please stop the personal attacks Bio. The fact that you negged me with full force the first day I joined on a John H thread illustrates the point.

Please stop.

[bio-chem]

Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

Yes, a general question/answer thread....and I answered your question. If you don't like the answer don't start making faces with emotion gifs, just move on or answer in a mature manner.

Please stop the personal attacks Bio. The fact that you negged me with full force the first day I joined on a John H thread illustrates the point.

Please stop.

resurrecting a dead thread over 2 years old deserves to be negged. like those points mean anything anyways.

you didn't answer the question. if you really wanted a discussion which I did then you would have explained why you feel that way. you made a ridiculous blanket statement about americans that makes no sense. while giving nothing that supports what you said.

Now I'm sorry you got your panties out of whack for no reason, but unless you plan on having a actual discussion like this thread was intended for please leave. you're not welcome in this thread otherwise.