IainDaniel

Agreed.

To me a good parent tries to educate there child about there actions and responsibilities. Slowly letting the reigns out for a teenager to begin to explore and apply these teachings.... there will be mistakes along the way(part of the learning process), but a supportive and good parent will always be there to help them, no matter the mistake.

Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.

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Dale Mabry

The point is...

You can't sit there and tell people they need to follow this, and they need to follow that, where your own daughter, whom you should have unlimited influence over doesn't. Abstinence is the way, well what if Bristol didn't have rich parents and couldn't afford to raise the child. BAM! Welfare. Do not even remotely think that if the shoe was flipped on Obama that he would be praised on how they handled it. Case in point, 6-10 months earlier, that young Spears chick who was the same age got sperminated and Bill O'Reilly ripped her for her morals. In both instances the young parents are financially capable enough to raise a child, not everyone is born in to that situation and you wonder why this country has so many entitlement programs. People are fucking stupid.

If sense were common, everyone would have it.

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KelJu

Basically, this was exactly what I was trying to convey.

IainDaniel

Why can't Palin preach abstinence? at 17 there is no way she can have absolute control over her daughter, and it is ridiculous to expect that.

Everyone are idiots, but they hopefully learn from being idiots.

Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.

Michael Jordan

bio-chem

people are fucking stupid, but that doesn't mean that the answer is entitlements. at least not in my mind.

I would disagree with any notion that parents have unlimited influence. No matter how good of parents they are.

How exactly would Palin have told people they were supposed to be different than how she handled the situation with her daughter?

min0 lee

I'll share the coke with you. I feel the same way too.

DOMS

In this argument, you have two sides. Those that don't have children, but try to talk like they know what it's like to be a parent, and those who actually are parents and know what they're talking about.

Yeah, there's a little smudging of the lines, but that pretty much sums it up.

Dale Mabry

I don't believe the answer is entitlements either, but how else would that situation work? Let's assume that everything is the same, Sarah Palin makes $30k a year selling Hallmark cards, her husband makes $40k, the loser boyfriend doesn't yet have a job, and Bristol is exactly the same. How does a 17 year old girl keep the child, pay for it's food, healthcare, and daycare all while working a job a 17 year old can get?

BTW, don't think she should have handled the aftermath any other way. My point is that this situation is 100x more likely to occur with a mom that preaches abstinence and loathes sex ed than if the mother educated the daughter and provided condoms. Again, I don't know the exact situation, but that doesn't change my opinion. If someone can't even see that, I want them selling lottery tickets like they should be, not running for president.

If sense were common, everyone would have it.

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IainDaniel

Fair enough... I can't disagree.

Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.

Michael Jordan

bio-chem

DOMS

Don't worry, I still respect you.

TexanTA1996

My sister has a neighbor who she's close with. The brother of that neighbor is in the secret service. My dad also also has a close friend that went to college with him who's in the secret service. Both are republicans, and I've heard from both of these sources that Palin was a huge, HUGE bitch. Basically, everything in the news about Palin flipping out on her staff when she fucked up royally in an interview, which was a result of her own ignorance, was the truth.

She's fake, ignorant, and anyone who thinks she be the President of VP is insane. Did you not watch her interviews?

DOMS

You know someone who knows someone?

Those are the best sources.

KelJu

I know human nature, and I know the numbers.

This has nothing to do with having kids or not having kids. Having kids does not make you smarter or more knowledgeable about basic human psychology or raising kids for that matter. That is a statement that sounds as ignorant as saying you have to be a bodybuilder to train bodybuilders. Jesus, to make a kid all you have to do is cum in a vagina. Fucking nearly every animal on earth can figure that shit out.

I know that sex education reduces young single female pregnancies. I know parent involvement in their children's lives reduces young single female pregnancies. I know that funding of programs like child dare care, head start, preschool, and job training programs for young single female's with kids improves the quality of life for the child and helps them to become happy healthy productive citizens.

I really don't like paying taxes, and I really don't like paying for programs to help those who made costly mistakes, but I also don't want to see those kids pay for the mistakes of adults, and I don't want them to be swept under the rug for the next generation to incarcerate.

Palin supports abstinence-only for all education programs. Well fucking awesome! Look where it got her own kid. Look at that shit. It would be fucking hilarious if it weren't so sad. Palin cut funding for programs to help teen moms. Well fucking awesome! The bitch is rich, so I guess her kids can keep pumping um out with no consequences, but what about the rest of the families in the US that can't afford to fund the mistakes of their children. What about the young moms that are out on the street or in and out of support shelters?

DOMS, man, you of all people here should have a spot in your heart for these young moms. Palin supports programs and systems that increases the chances of these kids fucking up, and then she cuts funding to the programs to help them when they do fuck up. That shit is wrong on so many levels.

clemson357

Barack Hussein Obama is a fucking nobody, and a moron. The guy says there are 57 states, talks about "the bomb" dropped on pearl harbor, and it gets zero air play in the corporate media which is on an agenda to deify the first black president. He won't release his college grades, probably because it would prove he benefited from affirmative blacktion in getting into Harvard. He is universally touted as being the "first black editor of Harvard law review," yet the media never tells you that he was ELECTED to that position rather than earning it on merit like you do in most law schools. Thats right, Harvard changes their policy on law review specifically because they thought it wasn't "fair" the minorities should have to compete with others. He was elected to his first political position after extorting a legal loophole to get his opponents kicked off the ballot. In his Senate race, he ran against Jack Ryan, who was going down in flames after news broke that he tried to force his actress wife into a swingers club. He served less than half a term in national-level politics before he began campaigning for President. He goes by "Barry" while he is ingratiating himself to white people at a giant corporate lawfirm, and then switches back to "Barack" and joins a militant separationist church when he needs the black and muslim vote in ultra-liberal Illinois. He was the most liberal senator in the country in 2007, and got a free pass from the media into the most powerful position in the world.

Sarah Palin is an idiot, and in that respect she is on par with B.O. The current disparity between their public images in attributable solely to race politics and the corporate media.

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DOMS

Well, when you put it like that...

soxmuscle

Good post.

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PreMier

i like how compassionate you are about all this.. but honestly, i work hard for the money i make. much harder than most people realize. and quite honestly i dont think i should have to take care of some girl that made a mistake and had a kid. if she cant support it, or herself, then who's fault is that?

the problem is that dumb people breed more than people with intelligence. people that are smart, get education, good jobs, and they have a kid when they can take care of themselves. nothing upsets me more than some one looking for a free ride. what ever happened to survival of the fittest?

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KelJu

There is no disputing this.


That is why we need a leader with a good plan to help educate these dumb kids so that they don't keep spawning new snot machines every 9 months.

bio-chem

do you know of any?

mcguin

the whole story about palins daughter I feel was just a way to appeal to a more liberal base...where people would be like, woah a conservative mom is now the mom of a pregnant young girl...she seems more mainstream to me now, blah blah blah...I honestly havent found anything about palin to make me feel like wow, this lady does know her stuff...shes just a librarian looking hottie...

TexanTA1996

Are you blind, or just that dense? I said "I've heard from both of these sources". I have spoken directly with both of these people who work for the government, and one I speak with on a regular basis.

She's a bitch, get over it. She's a stewardess, at best. The thought of her running a country is beyond insane.

DOMS

I don't want her as president, however, your post is ambiguous and made it sound like, and I quote, "My dad also also has a close friend that went to college with him who's in the secret service."

But yeah...I'm sure you're reliable.

brogers

She's running a state, and has been doing a fairly good job according to her constituents. Prior to the election her approval was 80%+.

It really doesn't take a genius to run a state or a country, especially the US. All you need to do is not interfere in the free exchange of goods and services and wipe out anyone dumb enough to attack/threaten us. Presidents get into trouble when they think they're smart and that they've figured out that government is the "solution" to problems the country faces. Medicare, Social Security, Bush's Medicare, 'Stimulus' plans, bailouts, etc.

I don't need a genius, I simply want someone to follow the Constitution.

Dale Mabry

Agree.

If sense were common, everyone would have it.

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