Thread: President Obama vows nation's economy 'will recover' during first speech before Congr

Originally Posted by min0 lee

I Agree with the drooling part but you have to admit he does a good job with his speeches.
He'd make a heck of a salesman.

Absolutely, I really don't think there's any question about his ability to deliver a speech. It's his liberal policies that I don't have any faith in. He's spending a shit-load of money.

Originally Posted by busyLivin

Absolutely, I really don't think there's any question about his ability to deliver a speech. It's his liberal policies that I don't have any faith in. He's spending a shit-load of money.

They are saying that Jindal bombed, I never even heard of him.
When I saw I wasn't paying mind and I thought he was just a doofy looking liberal.
Word is he's actually a good speaker that the GOP is hoping will be a voice in the future.

Originally Posted by IronAddict

Yeah, the way she kept staring at the camera was annoying.

Obama is a very impressive speaker, I am just glad we have a president who represents all Americans, and is providing proper leadership.

Lay off of the crack

Originally Posted by IronAddict

How about implementing the proper criteria to get this Country back on the right track.

Wow, again... lay off the crack.

The only thing he has accomplished is wasting a trillion dollars and ensuring the US economy will not recover any time soon.

You can't spend your way out of debt... it just doesn't work that way.

Originally Posted by IronAddict

I know I am. Simply denying that we were in a recession and with all the other ills this Country has had to endure, isn't in my opinion a leader.

Bush tried for 8 years to end the mortgage policies that the Clinton administration put in place and that got us in this trouble but he couldn't get anything passed... he just couldn't get the support. The liberals constantly claimed there was no problem with giving everyone mortgages that really should not have qualified.

You don't think it was refreshing to see someone at that stage with a decent command of the English language?

Only time will tell if he does any good, with this speech he may just fool Wall street I mean have confidence in him.

Originally Posted by NeilPearson

Wow, again... lay off the crack.

The only thing he has accomplished is wasting a trillion dollars and ensuring the US economy will not recover any time soon.

You can't spend your way out of debt... it just doesn't work that way.

You're saying Obama wasted a trillion dollars and I'm on crack?

Originally Posted by NeilPearson

Bush tried for 8 years to end the mortgage policies that the Clinton administration put in place and that got us in this trouble but he couldn't get anything passed... he just couldn't get the support. The liberals constantly claimed there was no problem with giving everyone mortgages that really should not have qualified.

Man, you're deluded.

Originally Posted by PainandGain

Why are you being so hard on him?
Give him a chance at least, shit.
I mean he has done a lot, and it appears that he's trying and doing his best to get as much done as possible to help this country.
Stand behind your president and pitch in whenever possible.

That's the problem... he has done too much.

The only way to fix the economy is to get out the way and let it fix itself. Record spending and record deficits and debt aren't going to do it.

The economy has to crash. It will with or without Obama's spending but with it, it will crash harder and take much longer to recover.

FDR did the same thing in the 30s and guess what, the Dow Jones didn't get back to it's 1929 highs until the mid 1950's. If Obama is as successful as FDR was, we should recover by 2035.

Originally Posted by NeilPearson

Bush tried for 8 years to end the mortgage policies that the Clinton administration put in place and that got us in this trouble but he couldn't get anything passed... he just couldn't get the support. The liberals constantly claimed there was no problem with giving everyone mortgages that really should not have qualified.

Bush couldn't convince me the sky was blue.

Obama can convince 85% of the people the sky red.

Some have it some don't.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

You don't think it was refreshing to see someone at that stage with a decent command of the English language?

Only time will tell if he does any good, with this speech he may just fool Wall street I mean have confidence in him.

I don't care about his command of the English language. I care about policy

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Bush couldn't convince me the sky was blue.

Obama can convince 85% of the people the sky red.

Some have it some don't.

That's the problem... he did convince everyone the sky was red (which it isn't). And now we are going to pay for it.

Don't get me wrong I don't like Bush either but Obama has spent us into the next Great Depression

Originally Posted by NeilPearson

Wow, again... lay off the crack.

The only thing he has accomplished is wasting a trillion dollars and ensuring the US economy will not recover any time soon.

You can't spend your way out of debt... it just doesn't work that way.

oh, but the trillion dollars that the Bush administration has spent on a useless war was money well spent!

Originally Posted by IronAddict

Man, you're deluded.

Research credit default swap and subprime mortgages.

Bush wasn't completely without guilt but Clinton was the one that got the ball rolling and wanted everyone to be able to own a home.

Originally Posted by NeilPearson

I don't care about his command of the English language. I care about policy

We all do, well most of us.

Just saying he is a better salesman, he may be selling shit but people are buying.

Originally Posted by Prince

oh, but the trillion dollars that the Bush administration has spent on a useless war was money well spent!

I never said it was. I don't love Bush either. I don't like that he signed the TARP into law either.

You have to remember. When he went to war everyone was behind him and he told you upfront that he was going in there and staying... and everyone loved it. A few years later, they got tired and decided they hated it. He stayed consistant, the US people were the fickle ones.

Besides Obama in one month has already spent more than Katrina, Iraq and Afghanistan... you just haven't gotten the bill yet.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

We all do, well most of us.

Just saying he is a better salesman, he may be selling shit but people are buying.

So you think the US public deserves to be sold shit by a smooth talking con-man?

So people bitch that the spending in Iraq destroyed the country but Obama comes along, spends more in one month and people love it?

Makes no sense

Originally Posted by NeilPearson

That's the problem... he did convince everyone the sky was red (which it isn't). And now we are going to pay for it.

Don't get me wrong I don't like Bush either but Obama has spent us into the next Great Depression

I think the people before him took care of that, while it's not the Great Depression it's pretty bad.

Originally Posted by NeilPearson

So you think the US public deserves to be sold shit by a smooth talking con-man?

Not saying he is a con-man but a politician is a politician.
damn yea, a con man.

Originally Posted by NeilPearson

So people bitch that the spending in Iraq destroyed the country but Obama comes along, spends more in one month and people love it?

Makes no sense

It doesn't, I think people just want that war to end and stop wasting money on that country.
Just a guess. Don't kill me killer.

Originally Posted by IronAddict

Man, you're deluded.

Never heard of the community reinvestment act, eh? Probably shouldn't call someone deluded without knowing what you're talking about.

Originally Posted by busyLivin

Never heard of the community reinvestment act, eh? Probably shouldn't call someone deluded without knowing what you're talking about.

Actually i have, but if you're saying that is why were going bankrupt, yes that is exactly what i'm saying.

Originally Posted by IronAddict

Actually i have, but if you're saying that is why were going bankrupt, yes that is exactly what i'm saying.

Not that you'll watch this, but...

I'm sure NAFTA hurt us also.

I hope he proves us wrong.
That is all.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Brogers....no way is Obama a bad speaker.
I don't care what anyone say's, he made me proud to be an American dammit!

So a politician reading from a teleprompter has made you proud to be an American?


I'm sorry that guys like these can't quite make you proud. They've made me proud regardless of who is reading from the teleprompter in the capitol.





But hey, what's buying your freedom with their blood matter? Not like they made any speeches with "hope" and "change" thrown in 100 times.

I hope this puts things in perspective. The United States is bigger than the Presidency, and the Presidency is bigger than one man.