Thread: Top American Surgeon embraced Islam

30 minutes is a long time. But I will watch it later.

I do believe, that Xtianity, Islam, Judaism, and Hinduism are not religions but "ways of life."

It's a way to express spirituality, for those who need guidance.


I wish they could do this on their own, instead of joining a "team."

I'll join the highest paying team!

I think religion is a poison

Originally Posted by ROID

I think religion is a poison

Only by the people who use it to manipulate others... For most people it is a compass or guide. The Torah, Bible, Koran, etc... those were the first self help books, they were the Chicken Soup for the Soul books of our ancestors. I know I bust the Faithfuls chops all the time but I feel that it's my spiritual duty to act as a checks and balances to make sure folks aren't getting manipulated and aren't trying to manipulate. I know that there is mainly good intention with religion but as my own early studies of Buddhism and the Yin/Yang there's always a negative side to that coin....

30 minutes is a long time. But I will watch it later.

I do believe, that Xtianity, Islam, Judaism, and Hinduism are not religions but "ways of life."

It's a way to express spirituality, for those who need guidance.


I wish they could do this on their own, instead of joining a "team."

You just explained something I've been trying to find words to explain for years.

Originally Posted by maniclion

Only by the people who use it to manipulate others... For most people it is a compass or guide. The Torah, Bible, Koran, etc... those were the first self help books, they were the Chicken Soup for the Soul books of our ancestors. I know I bust the Faithfuls chops all the time but I feel that it's my spiritual duty to act as a checks and balances to make sure folks aren't getting manipulated and aren't trying to manipulate. I know that there is mainly good intention with religion but as my own early studies of Buddhism and the Yin/Yang there's always a negative side to that coin....

Agree, religion has its utility in the case of Ghandi who was inspired by the ultimate pacifism of Jane Hinduism and the concept of peaceful resistance, a torch later take up by another well known religious figure, martin luther.

However, I like to point out religion isn't the only social tool for mass manipulation, Pol Pot , that genocidal lunatic and Stalin are examples of how we can use other ways to kill and control large populations without the help of religion....

Originally Posted by maniclion

Only by the people who use it to manipulate others... For most people it is a compass or guide. The Torah, Bible, Koran, etc... those were the first self help books, they were the Chicken Soup for the Soul books of our ancestors. I know I bust the Faithfuls chops all the time but I feel that it's my spiritual duty to act as a checks and balances to make sure folks aren't getting manipulated and aren't trying to manipulate. I know that there is mainly good intention with religion but as my own early studies of Buddhism and the Yin/Yang there's always a negative side to that coin....

I see your point of view. I drew my conclusion from my own experiences.

Up until I was about 17 I attended church consistently. We had a Revival one week and the very last day the guest Pastor played a tape at the end of the service / beginning of the Invitation. Apparently a company was digging some type of well and accidentally drilled through the roof of "Hell". The tape was a recording of people being tortured in The Lake of Fire. Needless to say a lot of people found Jesus that night. At the time I was totally convinced and the guest pastor testified to this tapes legitimacy and no one questioned him. Not even our Pastor who had his PH.D in theology. Fear based manipulation.

Too much duality in Christianity and I assume in all religions.