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    Post Financial experts say recession ends by year's end

    Financial experts predict economic turnaround by year's end

    A group of financial wizards looked into their crystal ball Tuesday and saw some good news.

    The recession will ease by the end of this year and companies will begin adding workers, signaling the end of the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.

    It was the 64th day of the Obama administration and Chicago-based Dow Jones Indexes assembled a group of financial experts to assess the impact of government actions, whether they will work to stem the recession and what opportunities that might present investors.

    The recession has affected every region of the country and nearly every sector of the economy, said Gus Faucher, director of macroeconomics at Moody's Economy.com, which conducts independent research and provides economic forecasts.

    "It's really unprecedented in the U.S. to have nearly the entire country in a recession simultaneously," he said.

    The good news is there's an end in sight.

    The economy will pull out of the recession at the end of this year, marking a duration of 24 months, about twice as long as the average post-World War II recession, Faucher said.

    The unemployment rate is expected to peak at nearly 10 percent in the first half of 2010. Without the $787 billion government stimulus package, he estimated job losses would have continued into the second half of the year and peaked at about 12 percent.

    "That would take what is now a severe recession and actually turn it into a deep depression," he said. "We think the fiscal stimulus package is vital in turning around attitudes toward the economy."

    He said we are at or near a stock market bottom and stock prices should soon stabilize.

    That certainly wasn't the case so far this week. The Dow Jones industrial average gained 498 points on Monday but dropped 115 points, or 1.5 percent, on Tuesday.

    Home sales will turn around by midyear and home prices will begin recovering by the end of this year after bottoming out at 35 percent of their value from peak to trough. Home prices won't return to their values of a few years ago during the boom, but will recover from current lows, he said.

    Banks will likely begin seeing improvement in capital as the government program to remove bad assets kicks in and the Federal Reserve provides more economic support. Faucher predicted major bank and financial services company failures will abate in the second half of this year and credit will begin to move again.

    Those improvements and additional government spending will provide investors some opportunities in companies that own bridges, toll roads and utilities. It also will drive growth in areas of green energy production.

    The stimulus package will spend $50 billion on roads, bridges, utilities and other infrastructure, said Craig Noble, portfolio manager, for Brookfield Redding LLC, a Chicago-based investment manager of global real estate and infrastructure securities.

    He sees a potential sweet spot for investors in companies that own the assets that will benefit from the needed spending. He said the stimulus package is only a small portion of government spending on transportation and utilities. Congress must reauthorize this year a multiyear transportation bill that provides hundreds of billions of dollars in spending and sets priorities for the next five years or more.

    "The infrastructure class currently offers a unique and compelling investment case with trillions needed to be spend across the globe in coming years," he said.

    Stimulus packages rolled out in Canada, Europe, Australia, South America and China show the global nature of the infrastructure asset class, he said.

    Obama administration polices that emphasize renewable energy such as wind power will also push billions of dollars into building electricity-carrying power lines and the towers to hold them. That construction is needed to carry wind power from expanding wind turbine farms in the Midwest to population centers in the Eastern United States.

    Financial experts say recession ends by year's end - Yahoo! Finance

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    Thats great to hear, but I'll believe it when I see it....and when I find a career

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    News out tonight still show unemployment going up. I don't see it ending for several years.






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    Quote Originally Posted by lnvanry View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    Financial experts predict economic turnaround by year's end

    A group of financial wizards looked into their crystal ball Tuesday and saw some good news.

    The recession will ease by the end of this year and companies will begin adding workers, signaling the end of the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.

    It was the 64th day of the Obama administration and Chicago-based Dow Jones Indexes assembled a group of financial experts to assess the impact of government actions, whether they will work to stem the recession and what opportunities that might present investors.
    Maybe these people are right; maybe they're wrong.

    We have to wait and see.

    Remember, the "experts" didn't even recognize the Recession until a year after it started.

    When it comes to predicting the future, economists just don't well. Nobody does.
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    Here's what I think of economic and financial experts. This just came out:

    Op-Ed Columnist
    Learning How to Think


    By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
    March 26, 2009

    Ever wonder how financial experts could lead the world over the economic cliff?

    Nicholas D. Kristof



    One explanation is that so-called experts turn out to be, in many situations, a stunningly poor source of expertise.
    There’s evidence that what matters in making a sound forecast or decision isn’t so much knowledge or experience as good judgment — or, to be more precise, the way a person’s mind works.

    More on that in a moment. First, let’s acknowledge that even very smart people allow themselves to be buffaloed by an apparent “expert” on occasion.

    The best example of the awe that an “expert” inspires is the “Dr. Fox effect.” It’s named for a pioneering series of psychology experiments in which an actor was paid to give a meaningless presentation to professional educators.

    The actor was introduced as “Dr. Myron L. Fox” (no such real person existed) and was described as an eminent authority on the application of mathematics to human behavior. He then delivered a lecture on “mathematical game theory as applied to physician education” — except that by design it had no point and was completely devoid of substance. However, it was warmly delivered and full of jokes and interesting neologisms.

    Afterward, those in attendance were given questionnaires and asked to rate “Dr. Fox.” They were mostly impressed. “Excellent presentation, enjoyed listening,” wrote one. Another protested: “Too intellectual a presentation.”

    A different study illustrated the genuflection to “experts” another way. It found that a president who goes on television to make a case moves public opinion only negligibly, by less than a percentage point. But experts who are trotted out on television can move public opinion by more than 3 percentage points, because they seem to be reliable or impartial authorities.

    But do experts actually get it right themselves?

    The expert on experts is Philip Tetlock, a professor at the University of California, Berkeley. His 2005 book, “Expert Political Judgment,” is based on two decades of tracking some 82,000 predictions by 284 experts. The experts’ forecasts were tracked both on the subjects of their specialties and on subjects that they knew little about.

    The result? The predictions of experts were, on average, only a tiny bit better than random guesses — the equivalent of a chimpanzee throwing darts at a board.
    Link & Entire: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/op...ristof.html?em
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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    I don't see it ending for several years.
    Agreed, I wonder if this is just to boost confidence, sort of like the media was doing at the end of Bush's term, except the exact opposite.
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    Agree we have to wait and see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Mabry View Post
    Agreed, I wonder if this is just to boost confidence....
    I think part of this "end of recession" talk is an attempt to boost confidence.

    Confidence is very powerful in an economy driven over 70% by consumer spending.

    The problem is, the consumer spending (which was made possible by borrowing and lending) ended up being the problem.

    I think those at the very top of the government may have access to info and numbers that we, the public don't know about. Meaning, things may get worse.

    As sara states and what I say also: we have to wait and see.
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