Unbelievable photo: Moment before Marie Moore shoots son at shooting range

**min0 lee** · 04-08-2009, 04:57 PM

Unbelievable photo: Moment before Marie Moore shoots son at shooting range

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Wednesday, April 8th 2009, 4:19 PM

CASSELBERRY, Fla. — A central Florida woman who fatally shot her 20-year-old son then killed herself at a shooting range left recorded messages that said she was the anti-Christ and that she needed to save her son.

In rambling, teary audio recordings left for her boyfriend and authorities, as well as shorter suicide notes, Marie Moore, 44, apologized several times and said repeatedly: "I had to send my son to heaven and myself to Hell."

Authorities said Wednesday they still had no motive for the murder-suicide that shocked fellow customers and employees at the Shoot Straight range in Casselberry, about 10 miles north of Orlando, on Sunday.

"We have no clue. I don't even want to begin to speculate," said Deputy Chief Bill McNeil of the Casselberry Police Department.

The gun range's security video shows 20-year-old Mitchell Moore taking aim at a target in a booth when his mother, 44, walks up behind him and points a gun at the back of his head. In the next frame, the son is seen falling to the ground and a nearby patron appears to alert others as he points to the unseen carnage.

The gun used was rented at the range.

According to a police report, earlier footage from the surveillance video shows the mother and son taking turns shooting and talking with other customers in the adjacent lane. "They seem to be getting along fine," one of the responding officers said.

The son died at the scene. Marie Moore was still alive when officers arrived at the range but later died at a hospital.

Mitchell's father, Charles Moore, told police that Marie Moore had a history of mental illness, had previously attempted suicide and been involuntarily committed to a mental hospital in 2002 under the Florida law known as the Baker Act.

Marie Moore refers to the incident in records she left for police and Shoot Straight, saying she spent a year in and out of a "mental home" but insisted: "I'm not sick." Family members found the audio tapes and three suicide notes late Monday and gave them to police.

"I'm sorry to do this in your place of business, but I had to save my son," one message said. "God made me a queen and I failed. I'm a fallen angel. He turned me into the anti-Christ."

Moore said she could have killed only herself but felt she had to "save" her son and do it in a public way so the world could also be saved. "Hopefully when I die, there will 1,000 years of peace."

She apologized to her boyfriend for hiding her plans from him, but added: "You would've Baker Acted me ... and I wouldn't have been able to try to save Mitch."

Larry Anderson, a manager at Shoot Straight, said it's unclear whether the Moores had been to the range before, but they weren't regular customers. The range requires that customers fill out a form with a series of questions, including whether they have ever been convicted of a felony or been declared mentally unstable, but Anderson said they have no way to verify the information.

Anderson defended the range's policies, saying: "If someone acts right, we have to assume they are right."

Based on the writings and audio recordings that he's seen in the media, Anderson said, it's clear that Marie Moore was "bent on doing it."

"Sometimes, like what happens Sunday, you have no control," Anderson said. "There's nothing you can do to prevent it."

Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokeswoman Kristen Perezluha said criminal histories are available online for a $24 fee, but that ranges are not required to run background checks on customers. Mental health histories are not publicly available because of patient privacy laws, Perezluha said.

Working numbers for Moore's family members could not be found. According to the police report, Moore's son lived in an apartment with his girlfriend and was due to have dinner with his father the day he died.

**IronAddict** · 04-08-2009, 06:45 PM

That is definately the most depressing thing I've heard today. Crazy woman, you couldn't just take your own life, you had to involve your own son. Damn that's just ineffable!

**maniclion** · 04-08-2009, 07:47 PM

No motive? She said she is the anti-christ and she needed to save her son, obviously she felt like a bad mother and needed to rush the apocalypse for her and her son......I blame it on religion not on guns.........Ban Religion!!!

Guns don't kill people religion does.....

**vader** · 04-08-2009, 08:31 PM

very sad.
I wonder was she on any kind of anti depressants?

**nkira** · 04-08-2009, 08:50 PM

Some people are just fucked-up....

**vader** · 04-08-2009, 08:51 PM

if by fucked up you mean batshit crazy, then yes

**Little Wing** · 04-09-2009, 01:38 AM

oh man.

**tallcall** · 04-09-2009, 03:31 AM

Yeah, this was a fun story to run. She went to the "Shoot Straight Gun Range" and sure did "shoot straight"...through her son (I guess we should have been more clear on this - the target is NOT on the back of the guys head in front of you

)

She created her own self-fulfilling prophecy and became an anti-christ when she decided to kill her son and herself.

I wonder if anyone would have done anything if they had been paying attention to her, or would they have just watched and let it happen like sheep?

Also, the fucking Anthony's are the top story again today - George is going in for his deposition a few floors above me in a few hours. I hate this fucking story more than that woman - this thing just simply WILL NOT DIE (I don't care if the pun is there I like it

).

**Will Brink** · 04-09-2009, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Working numbers for Moore's family members could not be found. According to the police report, Moore's son lived in an apartment with his girlfriend and was due to have dinner with his father the day he died.

F-ing terrible, but it's getting all this press because it involved guns. Here in Boston this just took place:

MILTON, Mass. (AP) -- A man on a rampage fatally stabbed his 17-year-old sister, decapitated his 5-year-old sister in front of a police officer and then headed toward his 9-year-old sister with a knife in his hand before officers shot him amid what their chief described as "a killing field."

Man kills 2 sisters near Boston, 3rd saved by police | WFTS-TV

Has this story been all over the national news? I hate to compare horror stories, but that one above is worse in my view. But hell, he only used a knife, so as far as the news is concerned, it's not news they can use to show the evils of guns I guess...

**I Are Baboon** · 04-09-2009, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by WillBrink

F-ing terrible, but it's getting all this press because it involved guns. Here in Boston this just took place:

MILTON, Mass. (AP) -- A man on a rampage fatally stabbed his 17-year-old sister, decapitated his 5-year-old sister in front of a police officer and then headed toward his 9-year-old sister with a knife in his hand before officers shot him amid what their chief described as "a killing field."

Man kills 2 sisters near Boston, 3rd saved by police | WFTS-TV

Has this story been all over the national news? I hate to compare horror stories, but that one above is worse in my view. But hell, he only used a knife, so as far as the news is concerned, it's not news they can use to show the evils of guns I guess...

That was on national news.

**DiGiTaL** · 04-09-2009, 07:30 AM

"Im the Anti-Chris and I had to save my son, and the world"

poor kid

**Will Brink** · 04-09-2009, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

That was on national news.

It's not getting anywhere near the attention of the other story however. A guy down south threw his kids off a bridge. Did you hear about that one? Happened a few months ago. If it made national news, it didn't get much attention:

BAYOU LA BATRE, Ala. — A man angered after a dispute with his wife confessed to tossing his four young children off a bridge, authorities said Wednesday as they searched murky waters for the bodies.

Lam Luong, 37, who is charged with four counts of capital murder, told authorities Tuesday night that he drove to the Dauphin Island bridge and dropped the children from a span that reaches 80 feet in places, said Detective Scott Rivera.

FOXNews.com - Police: Man Throws 4 Kids Off Bridge - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

Again, hate to compare one terrible event to another, but that's way f-ing worse. Suicide by gun rental does happen. This is the first murder/suicide I have heard of using a rented gun, but it seems to be getting far more attention then you would expect. The reason of course is it involved the tool the media likes to focus on, at a location the media likes to act as if such things happen all the time (gun ranges), in a method that gets ratings which = media feeding frenzy.

**Will Brink** · 04-09-2009, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by DiGiTaL

"Im the Anti-Chris and I had to save my son, and the world"

poor kid

At least he never knew what hit him. RIP son.

**I Are Baboon** · 04-09-2009, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by WillBrink

It's not getting anywhere near the attention of the other story however. A guy down south threw his kids off a bridge. Did you hear about that one? Happened a few months ago. If it made national news, it didn't get much attention:

I don't know...I can't keep track anymore. Pittsburgh cops, Oakland cops, Binghamton immigrant centers, kids killing parents, parents killing kids, etc etc etc.

**T_man** · 04-09-2009, 08:15 AM

Being killed by your own mum. That's deep.

Willbrink that story about the guy decapitating his sisters was on the third page news here in England. It was also in free newspapers, such as metro, which also run the buses here so the reading is just for the readers information rather than to sell.

And as for that guy throwing his kids of the bridge. Damn. What can I say.

**Little Wing** · 04-09-2009, 10:05 AM

the mom n son story is getting so much attention in part because they were white. true story. you think anyone would know who JonBonet Ramsey was if she were a little black girl from the ghetto? hell no. and if ALL stories like this got a ton of front page attention it would be nonstop 24/7 stories.

**Little Wing** · 04-09-2009, 10:08 AM

i wonder what would have happened if someone saw her aiming and shot her. the pic of her aiming would prove her intent and the notes would support it. be a lot better story. too bad it didn't happen that way.

**Will Brink** · 04-09-2009, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Little Wing

the mom n son story is getting so much attention in part because they were white. true story. you think anyone would know who JonBonet Ramsey was if she were a little black girl from the ghetto? hell no. and if ALL stories like this got a ton of front page attention it would be nonstop 24/7 stories.

Sad but true. That's another factor to the level of attention one story gets over another.

**Chubby** · 04-09-2009, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by T_man

Being killed by your own mum. That's deep.

Many moms kill their babies everyday to save their own lives. It is called 'abortion'.

**Will Brink** · 04-09-2009, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by chobby192

Many moms kill their babies everyday to save their own lives. It is called 'abortion'.

Just when I thought people couldn't get any lower or dumber, you post that. Good work.

**min0 lee** · 04-09-2009, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by chobby192

Many moms kill their babies everyday to save their own lives. It is called 'abortion'.

What??

**min0 lee** · 04-09-2009, 03:30 PM

This thread isn't about guns...it's about how crazy people are.

There's a lot of crazy shit going on now.

**Little Wing** · 04-09-2009, 07:37 PM

i can't shake this story. i thank god every night when my kids are asleep safe in their beds. this woman was so sick i don't think she will go to hell. there's a word for not recognizing you're that delusional, it's a disease in itself.

i don't think it is just that news spreads faster the world is getting worse people are getting worse. wtf. people knew she was sick i wonder if anyone could have saved this boy. and if her mind is finally whole.

**Little Wing** · 04-09-2009, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by chobby192

Many moms kill their babies everyday to save their own lives. It is called 'abortion'.

some do to save that lives but that is extremely rare. most abortion is for convenience. i kinda see what you mean here i think. it is a shame that abortion is not seen as a heinous act of killing ones own child. unless i'm reading you wrong completely.

**Chubby** · 04-09-2009, 10:15 PM

When a bad guy kills a pregnant woman, he get charged for two: mom and baby. When woman openly kill their unborn baby for her convenience, nobody dare to say a word.

That is double standard.

**Little Wing** · 04-09-2009, 11:09 PM

i agree. you notice, all the people FOR abortion have already been born.

**busyLivin** · 04-10-2009, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by chobby192

When a bad guy kills a pregnant woman, he get charged for two: mom and baby. When woman openly kill their unborn baby for her convenience, nobody dare to say a word.

That is double standard.

Exactly.

**Prince** · 04-10-2009, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by chobby192

When a bad guy kills a pregnant woman, he get charged for two: mom and baby. When woman openly kill their unborn baby for her convenience, nobody dare to say a word.

That is double standard.

no it's not, because abortion is still LEGAL in the US.

**Chubby** · 04-10-2009, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Prince

no it's not, because abortion is still LEGAL in the US.

I guess that is what I meant by double standard of our law. Baby is baby no matter who kills him/her. What do you think?

**busyLivin** · 04-10-2009, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by chobby192

I guess that is what I meant by double standard of our law. Baby is baby no matter who kills him/her. What do you think?

It's not called killing a baby.. it's "reproductive freedom"

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