George Bush got memos from Rumsfeld that used Scripture to push Iraq war

**min0 lee** · 05-18-2009, 07:29 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_w...iraq_war. html

Former Secretary Donald Rumsfeld sent President George Bush top secret wartime memos with cover sheets that mixed Scripture and battle photos to cast the Iraq invasion as a holy Christian crusade.
Rumsfeld, not a man who wore religion on his sleeve, appeared to be trying to manipulate - or curry favor with - the Bible-quoting Bush, according to an explosive story in GQ.

Some Pentagon analysts worried that if the memo covers leaked, they would inflame the Islamic world, undercut Washington's Arab allies and bolster those who claimed America was out to Christianize the Muslim world.
One official was so disturbed he kept the report covers and recently gave them to GQ writer Robert Draper, a leading chronicler of the Bush administration.
"Commit to the LORD, whatever you do, and your plans will succeed - Proverbs 16:3," appeared on a April 1, 2003 report over a photo of a U.S. soldier near a highway sign pointing to Baghdad. The next day, U.S. forces reached the Iraqi capital.
"Open the gates that the righteous nation may enter, the nation that keeps the faith - Isaiah 26:2," appeared on a April 3, 2003 memo over a photo of a U.S. tank entering Baghdad.

Four months later, during a summit in Egypt, the Palestinian foreign minister said Bush told him he was on "a mission from God" and was getting commands directly from the Lord. The White House at the time dismissed the claim as "absurd."
The damning GQ article, based on interviews with Bush insiders clearly eager to trash Rumsfeld, paints the former Pentagon chief as a control-freak who sacrificed policy to his power games.
"Rumsfeld's most enduring legacy will be the damage he did to Bush's," Draper wrote.
The article says he:
- Played a key role in the administration's botched early response to Hurricane Katrina, refusing for days to send troops needed to rescue stranded people.
Five days after the levees broke, Bush barked, "Rumsfeld, what the hell is going on there? Are you watching what's on television? Is that the United States of America or some Third World nation I'm watching? What the hell are you doing?"
-Helped block efforts by some White House officials, including then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, to give cancer-stricken Sen. Ted Kennedy a Presidential Medal of Freedom for his work on education.

- Let soldiers suffer in his turf wars. When Rice offered to get Jordan to reverse a ban on U.S. jets overflying Jordan if they had previously flown over Israel - which meant pilots had to take a useless three-hour detour - he refused her help.

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**IronAddict** · 05-18-2009, 08:39 AM

Shouldn't these men all be in phuquin prison ? No, this was treason, they deserve death!

**bio-chem** · 05-18-2009, 08:45 AM

how much longer are we going to have to deal with this stuff? the decision was so long ago. How does this effect anything actionable today?

**Big Smoothy** · 05-18-2009, 08:58 AM

If this is true, it's awfully eery.

Mixing Xtianity with Iraq, is not very smart. If a Muslim leave Islam to be areligious or converts, they penalty if death, according to Islam.

Rummy was influencing the young, dunce cap Bush.

Black gold.....

**min0 lee** · 05-18-2009, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by bio-chem

how much longer are we going to have to deal with this stuff? the decision was so long ago. How does this effect anything actionable today?

Was it so long ago, are we still not at war?

**min0 lee** · 05-18-2009, 09:49 AM

This is the religious crap they put out.

**bio-chem** · 05-18-2009, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Was it so long ago, are we still not at war?

again how does this effect anything actionable today. going to iraq in my opinion is not a bad decision. sadam was evil and in my opinion removing him from power was necessary. even if viewed from a strictly humanitarian perspective.

**bio-chem** · 05-18-2009, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

This is the religious crap they put out.

this is like an april fools joke. this story was broken in GQ?

**min0 lee** · 05-18-2009, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by bio-chem

this is like an april fools joke. this story was broken in GQ?

OK, this is an illusion.....it never happened.

**bio-chem** · 05-18-2009, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

OK, this is an illusion.....it never happened.

I just find the whole thing funny. if it happened or not, who cares. how much longer must we suffer through the anti-bush rhetoric. its over. move on. lets spend our time on discussing what to do now moving forward.

**min0 lee** · 05-18-2009, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by bio-chem

again how does this effect anything actionable today. going to iraq in my opinion is not a bad decision. sadam was evil and in my opinion removing him from power was necessary. even if viewed from a strictly humanitarian perspective.

A necessary evil, wasn't Rumsfield his buddy before all this?

I found an interesting site detailing how when Hussian was caught how it affected the other sects wanting control.

**min0 lee** · 05-18-2009, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by bio-chem

I just find the whole thing funny. if it happened or not, who cares. how much longer must we suffer through the anti-bush rhetoric. its over. move on. lets spend our time on discussing what to do now moving forward.

That's how thing work out, people still talk about Watergate and that happened decades ago.
This is still fresh and a lot is was only now that it's exposed to the public.

**IronAddict** · 05-18-2009, 10:52 AM

And a lot of people died because of those lies that were feed to this nation. Saying that Mothers, wives, bros. and sisters should just move on forgetting their loved ones died for greed and lies is just surreal.

**busyLivin** · 05-18-2009, 11:02 AM

Funny.. all these people come out of the woodwork to call Bush a liar, but not one response to the video i posted last week with all the Democrats (Bill Clinton, Hillary, Gore, Pelosi, Reid, etc.) all claiming what a threat Hussein was & how there was "no question they have WMDs"... yet Bush is a "liar".

Tired argument, I agree. But so is this. I hear the ACLU is hiring.

**min0 lee** · 05-18-2009, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

Funny.. all these people come out of the woodwork to call Bush a liar, but not one response to the video i posted last week with all the Democrats (Bill Clinton, Hillary, Gore, Pelosi, Reid, etc.) all claiming what a threat Hussein was & how there was "no question they have WMDs"... yet Bush is a "liar".

Tired argument, I agree. But so is this. I hear the ACLU is hiring.

Funny but where do you see a qoute about them as being innocent, this isn't about the DEMS and REPS...it's about Rumsfield.

this is the story.

Former Secretary Donald Rumsfeld sent President George Bush top secret wartime memos with cover sheets that mixed Scripture and battle photos to cast the Iraq invasion as a holy Christian crusade.

**IronAddict** · 05-18-2009, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

Funny.. all these people come out of the woodwork to call Bush a liar, but not one response to the video i posted last week with all the Democrats (Bill Clinton, Hillary, Gore, Pelosi, Reid, etc.) all claiming what a threat Hussein was & how there was "no question they have WMDs"... yet Bush is a "liar".

Tired argument, I agree. But so is this. I hear the ACLU is hiring.

Dumbass all that info. was classified and they cherry picked the intel. to suit their needs. Phuq!

**busyLivin** · 05-18-2009, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Funny but where do you see a qoute about them as being innocent, this isn't about the DEMS and REPS...it's about Rumsfield.

this is the story.

I was replying to IronAddict.

**busyLivin** · 05-18-2009, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by IronAddict

Dumbass all that info. was classified and they cherry picked the intel. to suit their needs. Phuq!

It's seriously worse that nails on a chalkboard.

**IronAddict** · 05-18-2009, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by busyLivin

It's seriously worse that nails on a chalkboard.

When you're not receptive to the truth it sometimes has that effect on you.

**Little Wing** · 05-18-2009, 11:52 PM

i don't think the pics prove he intended to cast it as a holy war. maybe it's just 2 men using their common beliefs to find comfort and reassurance in difficult times.

tough call.

**Big Smoothy** · 05-19-2009, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Little Wing

i don't think the pics prove he intended to cast it as a holy war. maybe it's just 2 men using their common beliefs to find comfort and reassurance in difficult times.

tough call.

Does religion and foreign policy mix?

Does religions and government mix?

**bio-chem** · 05-19-2009, 12:39 PM

yes

**maniclion** · 05-19-2009, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Little Wing

i don't think the pics prove he intended to cast it as a holy war. maybe it's just 2 men using their common beliefs to find comfort and reassurance in difficult times.

tough call.

Possible but any other Gov. worker who showed up to a meeting with their presentation materials rife with Jesus Babble they'd be demoted or fired for not following the bureaucracies rules.....

Besides Rumsfeld is one of the Anti-Christ's that has been on the upper rungs of US gov. for a few decades, he only knows how to use religion as a tool......

**min0 lee** · 05-19-2009, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

Does religion and foreign policy mix?

Does religions and government mix?

No.

**min0 lee** · 05-19-2009, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by maniclion

how to use religion as a tool......

That right there is why they shouldn't mix.

**Little Wing** · 05-19-2009, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Big Smoothy

Does religion and foreign policy mix?

Does religions and government mix?

obviously, but who's eyes were these for? i don't think it's wrong to tell another person you feel your actions agree with your faith.

**bio-chem** · 05-19-2009, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

That right there is why they shouldn't mix.

it's impossible to separate a persons faith from their views on government or the world.

**Pirate!** · 05-19-2009, 04:59 PM

LOL, anyone who thinks this info is coming from a trustworthy source needs a reality check.

Oh, did I tell you I am also a Bush Insider?

**min0 lee** · 05-19-2009, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by bio-chem

it's impossible to separate a persons faith from their views on government or the world.

Really?
So I guess I shouldn't have any then?

**bio-chem** · 05-19-2009, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Really?
So I guess I shouldn't have any then?

what the hell are you talking about?

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