Thread: FBI arrest four in alleged plot to bomb Bronx synagogues, shoot down plane

How the hell did they manage to get a stinger?? Isn't that a military only weapon?

Things are out of control here.

You would be surprised at what you can get your hands on for the right price.

The feds set them up with a phony.

Wait a minute, I thought only GW could stop terrorist attacks.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Wait a minute, I thought only GW could stop terrorist attacks.

Ha! I was going to write that above the link just to get the Irate GOP 5 all worked up.

Three did prison time for drug dealing - and the fourth is a mentally ill Haitian immigrant found too insane to be deported.
Prosecutors described the men as bloodthirsty wanna-be terrorists who crossed the line from minor crime to big trouble when they were caught planting what they thought were explosives at two Bronx synagogues.
The awful details of the group's year-long plotting were captured by hidden cameras and microphones, prosecutors said.

James Cromitie, 44, David Williams, 28, and Onta Williams, 32, all served time for drug dealing, converting to Islam in prison. Cromitie had as many as 27 convictions.
He even made the stunning admission in court that he had smoked pot before the bust.

The fourth man, Laguerre Payen, 27, had served 15 months for assault and was supposed to be deported to Haiti. But an immigration judge stayed the order because Payen, a paranoid schizophrenic, was judged insane.
"Waiting for him to be sane enough to boot out of the country? That logic is what's insane," said a law enforcement source.
Payen lived in a filthy crack den where a friend Thursday said he saw bottles of urine.

The other three routinely hung out on Cromitie's porch in upstate Newburgh, across the street from David Williams' house, drinking and barbecuing.
They also routinely gathered at a Denny's restaurant, talking and eating dishes of rice and beans, said neighbors.

The assistant imam at the mainstream Masjid al-Ikhlas mosque in Newburgh, where the four worshiped sporadically, said they frequently had to be corrected in their understanding of the Koran.
One pal said Cromitie, the accused ringleader, brought up 9/11 just two weeks ago over beers on his creaky porch in a rundown section of Newburgh.
"James was disgusted by the death and carnage of 9/11. He said, 'Only an idiot believes peace can be achieved through violence,'" said neighbor Ricky Jewel.
"Now I look at that smile, and I don't know if he's grinning or plotting."
Prosecutors said Cromitie claimed his father was Afghan, but cops now believe it was a lie to boost his "terror creds."

Cromitie and his stepson, a seventh-grader, played baseball with the neighborhood kids hours before his arrest Wednesday. Cromitie also was known for helping elderly people in his housing development.
Cromitie, a high school dropout whose most recent arrest was for selling drugs near a New York City school, lived with his girlfriend, Kathleen Baynes, whom he met when she worked at a homeless shelter in upstate Chester.

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Her friends and family were mystified at the prosecution's portrait of him as a schemer.
"I don't think they got the right guy. They're saying the ringleader - I don't think James is capable of that! Maybe it's a case of misidentity?" said a Baynes relative.

Cromitie never mentioned hating America, she said, and wondered if it was a lie gone wrong.
"He was always making up big-time stories. Big whoppers about everything. He would just lie for conversation," she said.
David Williams, who once told the parole board he dreamed of being a chef, has a 7-year-old daughter and a newborn son. He lived with his mother and took care of a younger brother dying of cancer, said old friend Manny Colon, 42. "David's a very sensitive man," he said.

But prosecutors described a much more violent David Williams. At one point, when a deal to buy weapons for the foursome fell through, David Williams set up a meeting with a "supreme Blood gang leader" in Brooklyn, said Eric Snyder, an assistant U.S. attorney.
He and an informant bought the weapon, and David Williams said if he were alone, he would have shot the gun dealer and kept his $700.

Onta Williams, no relation, was raised Baptist, said his uncle Richard Williams, who blamed the jailhouse conversion for his nephew's trouble. "These fake Muslims manipulated him to do this," said Richard Williams.
The fourth man, Payen, was hospitalized after his arrest. "He was off his meds - needing to be particularly crazy to do the deed," said a law enforcement source.

Payen had done time for shooting two teens with a BB gun.
His cousin, Marie Payen, said his mother also is mentally ill. His father is dead, and his brother, a U.S. Marine, is the only normal one, she said.
Still, she couldn't picture him as a terrorist. "I know he's not normal, but he's not that kind of person. I don't even think he knows how to read," she said.
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The fourth man, Laguerre Payen, 27, had served 15 months for assault and was supposed to be deported to Haiti. But an immigration judge stayed the order because Payen, a paranoid schizophrenic, was judged insane.
"Waiting for him to be sane enough to boot out of the country? That logic is what's insane," said a law enforcement source.
Payen lived in a filthy crack den where a friend Thursday said he saw bottles of urine.

The cop makes a good point, he's there problem, not ours.

How the hell did he get in if he isn't in his right mind. I'm not against immigrants coming over here legally but i wouldn't want a schizo coming here legal or not.

Her friends and family were mystified at the prosecution's portrait of him as a schemer.
"I don't think they got the right guy. They're saying the ringleader - I don't think James is capable of that! Maybe it's a case of misidentity?" said a Baynes relative.

Oh....mah baby boy would neva do such a thing.....bullshit, I hate hearing this crap all the time. He did it, deal with it. It's not the man bringing you down.

James Cromitie, 44, David Williams, 28, and Onta Williams, 32, all served time for drug dealing, converting to Islam in prison.
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I a lot of criminals convert to Islam in prison and wind up all crazy and militant. Plain stupid.

All such stuff is assurance to "World Will End Someday"

Now for the good news....


The cops and G-men who busted a gang of homegrown terrorists before they could blow up two Bronx synagogues got a big pat on the back Friday from a grateful city.
"I feel safer in the city today than ever before," Mayor Bloomberg said at a City Hall ceremony to honor the heroes. "They have prevented what could have been a terrible loss of life."
Gov. Paterson called the plot "one of the most heinous crimes that has been [planned] in this city for a long time."
And Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly called the police and FBI response "a textbook example of how a major investigation should be handled."
The kudos came a day after the suspects were ordered held without bail - and branded anti-Semitic would-be killers who dreamed of basking in the glory of their spectacular attacks.

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Didn't they meet in prison ? That sure would speak volumes about putting Gitmo detainees in the system . Might as well recruit more to the cause .