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Old 02-28-2009, 04:40 PM   #1
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Primordial Performance Presents:


1-T Tren!






1-T TREN is finally here, and it represents a true pinnacle.

As the list of legal and effective steroid hormones becomes smaller and smaller, the FDA ban list of anabolic substances becomes increasingly larger.

Considering the current legal environment for steroid based compounds, 1-T TREN is likely going to be the most powerful steroidal product that Primordial Performance will ever release. In fact, 1-T may quite possibly be the most powerful product available on the current legal market. [And it probably isn't going to be available very long if congress continues their "war against anabolics"]

Now, before we talk about the marvelous power of 1-T TREN, I want to come clean.

We are calling this product 1-T TREN because we are utilizing a hormone that has effects and a molecular structure very close to the anabolic steroid Trenbolone. So when we say "This is the closest legal thing to injectable Trenbolone", we really mean it. [Even though it's not actual Trenbolone, nor does it convert to Trenbolone]

The legal steroid hormone we are calling "TREN" is known as 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione [aka, Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione]

Most noteworthy, is that TREN doesn't need to make any conversions to exert its muscle building effects, because of its unique chemical structure.

Just compare the two steroid molecules and you will see they share a very similar molecular structure -





Essentially, this legal molecule is Trenbolone's little brother, and it offers the following benefits -

Non-methylated & non-toxic to the liver
Does not require metabolic conversion
Highly anabolic with zero estrogen conversion
Dramatic gains in strength and dense, lean muscle
To understand the specific activity & effects of TREN, let's take a quick look at the science of Trenbolone - [most of which applies to TREN]




Trenbolone

The Legendary Anabolic Androgenic Steroid (AAS)
Even as an illegal Schedule III controlled substance, Trenbolone maintains tremendous popularity for its rapid muscle building, physique hardening and fat burning effects. Being that Trenbolone is several times more anabolic & androgenic than testosterone, it's hailed as one of the most powerful AAS's for increasing strength, muscle density, and body fat reduction -- while causing minimal bloating and water retention. (1) This also makes Trenbolone [or TREN] ideal for either bulking or cutting cycles.

Trenbolone has been used by bodybuilders and athletes for decades in all kinds of preparations. Those willing to take the risk of committing a federal offense, purchase Finaplix implant tablets (Trenbolone acetate) from veterinarian supply shops and convert them to injectable or transdermal preparations with homemade kits. Some individuals have even gone as far as taking the Finaplix tablets as suppositories. Let's just say, people have gone to great lengths to get their hands on this stuff.

When we examine the molecular structure of Trenbolone and TREN, we can see a double bond in 9th position. This unique structural modification enhances the androgenic and anabolic power of the molecule. It also causes the molecules to resist conversion from steroid converting enzymes such as aromatase and 5a-reductase. Therefore, neither Trenbolone or TREN can be converted to estrogen [by aromatase], or other highly androgenic compounds, such as DHT [by 5a-reductase]. (8,9)

Side Effects

Trenbolone does have one downfall or upside, depending on how you look at it.

Trenbolone is a progestin based anabolic, which means it activates the progesterone receptor [PR]. (1) The combination of a high affinity for the androgen & progesterone receptor makes Trenbolone especially prone to cause individuals to "Hulk out" with aggression and anger. [A great thing for the gym, but a problem for the people that irritate you]

Aside from the possible emotional episodes, the PR action of Trenbolone can also stimulate gyno by directly activating the progesterone receptor [PR]. (1) This makes Trenbolone problematic when stacked with highly estrogenic compounds, since it appears that activation of the PR increases estrogen's proliferative ability on breast tissue. (2) Therefore, to avoid gyno symptoms it is best to use Trenbolone [or related steroids] with compounds that have low estrogenic activity.

Even though Trenbolone lacks the ability to convert to DHT, it can encourage temporary hair loss because of its direct action on the androgen receptor [AR]. However, the possible hair shedding from Trenbolone could be considered less than the hair loss associated with high DHT producing compounds. [eg, testosterone]


Being that TREN is a closely related analogue of Trenbolone, it shares both the good and the possible negative effects I just presented. Considering this, we had to formulate 1-T TREN in a precisely balanced ratio to avoid the side-effects, yet make it as effective as possible.

And that's exactly what we did with 1-T TREN -- and the result is quite incredible.

We stacked TREN with 1-Androsterone™, which is a non-aromatizing steroid hormone that converts to the original 1-Testosterone, as seen here (3,4) - [also used in our original 1-T]





Unfortunately, 1-Testosterone tends to suppress the libido and cause feelings of lethargy. So, we added a precise dose of DHEA, to counter these effects.

DHEA helps prevent lethargy by converting to powerful "neurosteroids" that encourage cognitive function and motivational drive. (5,6) DHEA also converts to several 5a-reduced metabolites that help support libido.

DHEA can also make conversions to other hormones, such as Testosterone. As most bodybuilders know, stacking a compound like Trenbolone with Testosterone is one of the most effective stacks for gaining sheer mass, strength and size. However, as mentioned earlier, stacking Trenbolone with estrogenic compounds such as Testosterone can lead to gyno. So we had to keep the dose of DHEA moderate to avoid these potential estrogenic/progestogenic side effects.

Thus, the end result is an anabolic masterpiece that captures the maximum anabolic muscle building effects, while keeping side effects to a minimum.

Finally, the hormones in 1-T TREN are efficiently delivered into the blood stream with our latest 6.0 OHV topical delivery system. Expect 30-40% of the active ingredients to be shuttled into the body over a 12-24 hour period. (10,11)
The final formulation of 1-T TREN smells of true victory and greatness. [It seriously does, just take a deep inhalation on your first application]

As with any powerful anabolic, users shall still expect suppression of natural testosterone while using 1-T TREN. Therefore, a proper PCT after a cycle will be necessary. For more information, please see the Official PCT Thread

If you're interested in learning how to best use 1-T TREN based on your goals, see the Official 1-T TREN Cycling Thread


Thank you for supporting Primordial Performance.




-Eric Potratz
President & Founder







1-T TREN
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Characteristics:

Fast drying creamy lotion, possessing fresh citrus scent.

Active Ingredients:

Active ingredients per 5 pumps

1-Androsterone™ – 90 mg
19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione (TREN) - 81 mg
DHEA – 57 mg

Other Ingredients:

Distilled water, grape spirits*, aloe vera*, ethoxy diglycol, dimethyl isosorbide, butylene glycol, jojoba oil, emu oil, squalene, tocopherol acetate, chamomile extract* (matricaria recutita), isopropyl myristate, green tea extract* (camellia sinensis), cetyl palmitate, sorbitan palmitate, sorbitan olivate, glyceryl stearate, PEG 100 stearate, glycerin, dimethicone, strontium nitrate, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, d-Limonene, tetrahydropiperine†, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, sodium PCA, sodium hydroxide.

* Certified Organic
† US Patent 6,849,645




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Nice



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It puts the Derma on the skin!!
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just helping you out Maxgolf



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just helping you out Maxgolf
well you do a good job



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Will there be a discount on the 1-tren box set? I'd be looking to buy one in a month or two I just ordered your DermaTherm Target, I've been hearing good things about it.



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Does the 1-Androsterone have a preference to convert to either the dione or diol form? I've been reading up on old 1-ad logs and it seems the diol had some nasty sides. One in particular was that people felt like they were pissing razors. That doesn't sound like much fun.
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Does the 1-Androsterone have a preference to convert to either the dione or diol form? I've been reading up on old 1-ad logs and it seems the diol had some nasty sides. One in particular was that people felt like they were pissing razors. That doesn't sound like much fun.
No preference that Ive ever heard of, but the burning urine stream hasn't been a complaint from the guys that have used our 1-T and 1-T TREN.

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Only side I've had with 1 T is the weights got lighter.
Two more weeks and I'll try 1 T tren because the weights are starting to feel heavy again.



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can or should this be stacked with anything like test-e? also, should liver supports be taken, and what of pct? any recommendations? I did mdrol, and got gyno. If I use this, I plan on using adex the last week before pct.
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this would be interesting to me if I could start with test-e and use it. But I'm having a hard time figuring out how to use it with test. Any suggestions?
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can or should this be stacked with anything like test-e? also, should liver supports be taken, and what of pct? any recommendations? I did mdrol, and got gyno. If I use this, I plan on using adex the last week before pct.

It doesn’t need to be stacked with anything… its very powerful as is.

Its not toxic to the liver either, so I wouldn’t say you “need” a liver support sup. The Testosterone Recovery Stack would be more than enough for PCT after a 4-6 week cycle of 1-T TREN.

Stick with 460mg/day generic vitex and you should be fine with keeping gyno away. (nolvadex would be something else you could use too)

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this would be interesting to me if I could start with test-e and use it. But I'm having a hard time figuring out how to use it with test. Any suggestions?
You could stack a low dose... like 150mg/week... that would give you a nice safe "base"... but you certainly wouldnt need to.

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I just may try this alone the first time and see how I fare.
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I just may try this alone the first time and see how I fare.
Actually, the only thing that guys have mentioned negative about the 1-T TREN is the libido reduction, so the low does test should help keep the libido up.

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Nolva did shit for my gyno. Any other suggestions. Adex is one option at a low dose (.25mg) and this could work well.
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Nolva did shit for my gyno. Any other suggestions. Adex is one option at a low dose (.25mg) and this could work well.
Gyno from what?

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oh sorry, mdrol.
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Nolva does not work in general for superdrol. It is not estrogen related.
It is prolactin based. You need dostinex.




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I did research before using mdrol; apparently not enough. I had to order adex-it crashed my libido, but it got rid of the gyno.

So would tren with a low test be okay for me? What kind of gains would I expect? I'm choosing between doing a full 500mg of test and what you recommended.
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I did research before using mdrol; apparently not enough. I had to order adex-it crashed my libido, but it got rid of the gyno.

So would tren with a low test be okay for me? What kind of gains would I expect? I'm choosing between doing a full 500mg of test and what you recommended.
Are you talking oral tren? If so, I would be very careful. It could possibly give you gyno also since it seems you are prone to it. It will also shut you down hard. I don't know anyone who has done 500mg test and oral tren....Ideally I think it would make for a great mass stack. Just be prepared for the sides if they show up for you.



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Are you talking oral tren? If so, I would be very careful. It could possibly give you gyno also since it seems you are prone to it. It will also shut you down hard. I don't know anyone who has done 500mg test and oral tren....Ideally I think it would make for a great mass stack. Just be prepared for the sides if they show up for you.
is there a big difference between oral tren and something like the 1t-tren? Or, would the sides be similar, if any showed up?



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is there a big difference between oral tren and something like the 1t-tren? Or, would the sides be similar, if any showed up?
There are different kinds of legal "tren" products on the market. The 19-nor in 1-T TREN has a fairly low binding affinity to the PR with very good affinity to the AR so its a pretty well rounded '"tren" pro-steroid.

The only sides are reduced libido and insomnia with our 1-T TREN. The reduce libido would be combated by the addition of the test injects.

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I did research before using mdrol; apparently not enough. I had to order adex-it crashed my libido, but it got rid of the gyno.

So would tren with a low test be okay for me? What kind of gains would I expect? I'm choosing between doing a full 500mg of test and what you recommended.
250mg/week with 4-5 pumps of the 1-T TREN would be a very safe and well rounded cycle.

If you are doing 500mg/week I would take aromasin with that.

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There are different kinds of legal "tren" products on the market. The 19-nor in 1-T TREN has a fairly low binding affinity to the PR with very good affinity to the AR so its a pretty well rounded '"tren" pro-steroid.

The only sides are reduced libido and insomnia with our 1-T TREN. The reduce libido would be combated by the addition of the test injects.

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I guess when I said oral Tren, I should have mentioned the 19-nor, the same ingredient in the 1-T Tren minus the extras in the 1-T Tren. That being the case, would it be the same difference with oral vs transdermal as far as sides go? (Not talking about absorption rates or anything like that, just sides)



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I guess when I said oral Tren, I should have mentioned the 19-nor, the same ingredient in the 1-T Tren minus the extras in the 1-T Tren. That being the case, would it be the same difference with oral vs transdermal as far as sides go? (Not talking about absorption rates or anything like that, just sides)
was wondering the same; but since it is not an oral, should it have better absorbancy and possibly bypass the liver? Just wondering.
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was wondering the same; but since it is not an oral, should it have better absorbancy and possibly bypass the liver? Just wondering.
The transdermal should have much better absorbancy than an oral, but from what I understand as long as the product is not methylated, you really shouldn't have any liver concerns with it anyway, and I am assuming most of the oral "tren" products are not.

I'm just not a fan of transdermals as to me it's a big pain in the ass to rub that lotion on my skin every day, plus I have small kids that I wouldn't want accidentally touching the stuff on me, although from everything I've read, they really are much better at delivering the product, ie, you would need a lot more of a dose of the oral to get the same effect.



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I have litte kids and a wife crawling on me all the time. I found PP trandermals to absorb rapidly, so it's never been a problem for me. Just keep in to areas under your shirt and wash your hands well.



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I like the fact that a transdermal is applied only once a day, in the morning preferably and your done with it. No popping this pill with meals or those pills twice a day.



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does it have to be patched or just applied and let go?
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Rub it on. let it dry for 5 or 10 minutes...done for the day.



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