Thread: HCG: Reduces Body Fat or Bogus?

IMHO, the "HCG diet" is complete BS. I believe the protocol requires you to eat a mere 500 cals a day. You can lose fat on just eating 500 cals alone....not that I would ever suggest something like that. Unhealthy and dangerous.


/V

From what I understand their assumption is that somehow taking the HCG will help you retain muscle mass. But like Vic said, unhealthy and complete bs. The reason HCG is suggested in cycles is because it helps maintain testicular function to some degree, making recovery easier. It has nothing whatsoever do to with fat loss.

hcg is not for weight loss
but i do enjoy watching all of the heffa slobs on youtube injecting hcg thinking its the fountain of youth

HCG therapy helps bring the testes back to size and get your testosterone production up. More test in your body = better fat loss ...

HCG is total rubbish in my opinion. But your question was about HCG and fatloss...

HCG is pretty effective within a cycle.

HCG is fine for stimulating the testes to output T but completely bogus for weight loss. Many studies have proven the HCG diet to be a complete scam.

I've read those studies it is a scam..like victor said they tell their patients to eat 500cal per day so they waste away and think wow this HCG works but no your starving yourself lol

Originally Posted by cutright

I've read those studies it is a scam..like victor said they tell their patients to eat 500cal per day so they waste away and think wow this HCG works but no your starving yourself lol

Five hundred daily calories and dieters equate the shocking weight loss with HCG? It would make more sense to mix the powder in milk and chug it. Yes, irrational. Glad I asked.

Originally Posted by VictorZ06

IMHO, the "HCG diet" is complete BS. I believe the protocol requires you to eat a mere 500 cals a day. You can lose fat on just eating 500 cals alone....not that I would ever suggest something like that. Unhealthy and dangerous.


/V

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Quoted for truth.

Originally Posted by test42myhttp

HCG is pretty effective within a cycle.

yep thats right. Sorry i ment to say HCG "DIET" is pretty rubbish...HCG for PCT or on a cycle is great.

I think it works.

i put many of my clients on the hcg protocol (the real fat ones), to me it works great. during extreme starvation dieting the body tends to break down muscle for food, but implementing hcg keeps the body from breaking down muscle. during pregnancy women naturally produce hcg to maintain their muscle mass. (we get our hcg from their pee) many of my clients after 3 cycles of hcg, still maintain the fat their losses. does it work, yes... safe? debate-able ..... there are many people who thinks steroids are dangerous, people like dr gary wadler and congress lol. but we all know better.

Contrary to what is posted on the net HCG does not promote weight loss at all.

Ineffectiveness of human chorionic gonadotropin in weight reduction: a double-blind study.

Stein MR, Julis RE, Peck CC, Hinshaw W, Sawicki JE, Deller JJ Jr.

Our investigation was designed to retest the hypothesis of the efficacy of human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) on weight reduction in obese women in a clinic setting. We sought to duplicate the Asher-Harper study (1973) which had found that the combination of 500 cal diet and HCG had a statistically significant benefit over the diet and placebo combination as evidenced by greater weight loss and decrease in hunger. Fifty-one women between the ages of 18 and 60 participated in our 32-day prospective, randomized, double-blind comparison of HCG versus placebo. Each patient was given the same diet (the one prescribed in the Asher-Harper study), was weighed daily Monday through Saturday and was counselled by one of the investigators who administered the injections. Laboratory studies were performed at the time of initial physical examinations and at the end of the study. Twenty of 25 in the HCG and 21 of 26 patients in the placebo groups completed 28 injections. There was no statistically significant difference in the means of the two groups in number of injections received, weight loss, percent of weight loss, hip and waist circumference, weight loss per injections, or in hunger ratings. HCG does not appear to enhance the effectiveness of a rigidly imposed regimen for weight reduction.

PMID: 786001 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Originally Posted by SUPERFLY1234

i put many of my clients on the hcg protocol (the real fat ones), to me it works great. during extreme starvation dieting the body tends to break down muscle for food, but implementing hcg keeps the body from breaking down muscle. during pregnancy women naturally produce hcg to maintain their muscle mass. (we get our hcg from their pee) many of my clients after 3 cycles of hcg, still maintain the fat their losses. does it work, yes... safe? debate-able ..... there are many people who thinks steroids are dangerous, people like dr gary wadler and congress lol. but we all know better.

You post some pretty dumb shit mate.

What was it, in that other thread when you were telling some guys his test levels were g2g at 91 ng/dl? And now this?

I put many of my clients on the hcg protocol (the real fat ones), to me it works great. during extreme starvation dieting the body tends to break down muscle for food, but implementing hcg keeps the body from breaking down muscle. during pregnancy women naturally produce hcg to maintain their muscle mass. (we get our hcg from their pee) many of my clients after 3 cycles of hcg, still maintain the fat their losses.

Actually, guys, to this layperson, the above does seem to make some sense regarding body chemistry, and how our bodies respond by producing a unique infusion of hormones during unusual periods of physiological stress (i'm speaking of pregnant women here.) The 500 calories a day seems irrational. But this explanation, for the first time, makes the HGC theory of fat loss at least seem plausible. Fire away, but thoughtful responses are especially welcome.

Originally Posted by 2tomlinson

I put many of my clients on the hcg protocol (the real fat ones), to me it works great. during extreme starvation dieting the body tends to break down muscle for food, but implementing hcg keeps the body from breaking down muscle. during pregnancy women naturally produce hcg to maintain their muscle mass. (we get our hcg from their pee) many of my clients after 3 cycles of hcg, still maintain the fat their losses.

Actually, guys, to this layperson, the above does seem to make some sense regarding body chemistry, and how our bodies respond by producing a unique infusion of hormones during unusual periods of physiological stress (i'm speaking of pregnant women here.) The 500 calories a day seems irrational. But this explanation, for the first time, makes the HGC theory of fat loss at least seem plausible. Fire away, but thoughtful responses are especially welcome.

The HCG diet is complete garbage. There have been many scientific studies on it and the double blind or other high end studies prove it to be a bust virtually every time.

Forget the bro-science. The HCG diet a scam.

The effect of human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) in the treatment of obesity by means of the Simeons therapy: a criteria-based meta-analysis.

Lijesen GK, Theeuwen I, Assendelft WJ, Van Der Wal G.

Institute for Research in Extramural Medicine, Faculty of Medicine, Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam, The Netherlands.

1. A meta-analysis was conducted to assess if there is scientific ground for the use of human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) as adjunctive therapy in the treatment of obesity. 2. Published papers relating to eight controlled and 16 uncontrolled trials that measured the effect of HCG in the treatment of obesity were traced by computer-aided search and citation tracking. 3. The trials were scored for the quality of the methods (based on four main categories: study population, interventions, measurement of effect, and data presentation and analysis) and the main conclusion of author(s) with regard to weight-loss, fat-redistribution, hunger, and feeling of well-being. 4. Methodological scores ranged from 16 to 73 points (maximum score 100), suggesting that most studies were of poor methodological quality. Of the 12 studies scoring 50 or more points, one reported that HCG was a useful adjunct. The studies scoring 50 or more points were all controlled. 5. We conclude that there is no scientific evidence that HCG is effective in the treatment of obesity; it does not bring about weight-loss of fat-redistribution, nor does it reduce hunger or induce a feeling of well-being.

Publication Types:
Meta-Analysis

PMID: 8527285 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
PMCID: PMC1365103

I have being reading about HCG dieting for awhile and my opinion has shifted to a nonbeliever.

Originally Posted by test42myhttp

I have being reading about HCG dieting for awhile and my opinion has shifted to a nonbeliever.

HCG is good for recovery/PCT but not at all suited for dieting. One can achieve more with a Test and Winny cycle and a good diet.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

HCG is fine for stimulating the testes to output T but completely bogus for weight loss. Many studies have proven the HCG diet to be a complete scam.

Yep, and it's silly to have one of these HCG sponsors here on the board, IMHO. Like HCG1234. I understand they pay fees here, but it makes the board look silly promoting the "HCG Diet".



/V

Last time I dieted, I took vitamin c everyday and ate 500 calories everyday. Clearly, vitamin c is the key for real weight loss. Lol, it is amazing that people can see 500 calories + (insert anything here) and still want to attribute the effects to the second item while ignoring the first.

Originally Posted by thepunisher000

Last time I dieted, I took vitamin c everyday and ate 500 calories everyday. Clearly, vitamin c is the key for real weight loss. Lol, it is amazing that people can see 500 calories + (insert anything here) and still want to attribute the effects to the second item while ignoring the first.

hahha thats a good one.

last time i dieted i drank lots of water and was on a 50 calorie diet...lost half my body weight in a week and almost died..clearly the water is a remarkable substance to mobilize fat lol

You all sum it up pretty good HCG diet is def for suckers. This diet is not rooted in good science.