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    Homebrew High Concentration Gear

    Hey guys, I was reading in other forum that some guys just make their stuff in a unusual higher concentration, and it doesn't crashes or is painfull.

    I would like to know what are the usual concentrations that you use, and if it got OK after brewing.

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    200mg/ml EQ
    300mg/ml DECA
    300mg/ml TEST E
    125mg/ml PRIMO

    All 2% BA 20% BB and it wasn't painfull

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    EQ 500mg/ml
    deca 400mg/ml
    tren e 500mg/ml

    2% BA 20% BB and went ok

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    Tren ace 250mg/ml
    Test prop 200mg/ml

    2% BA 30% BB NOT WERE USABLE!!!!!

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    400mg Test E
    600mg EQ
    400mg Deca
    400mg Tren E

    1,5% BA 20% BB ok also

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    I hope you like it and give the thread some feedback about your recipes!!!!

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    Here is one for you

    400mg/ml Test E

    12ml Grape See
    12ml EO
    1ml BA
    10ml BB
    20g Test E Powder

    Works nicely
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    EO = Ethyl Oleate?


    I've seen formulas of high testo concentrations with and without EO... Some people utilizes just BA and BB for making a 400mg, others uses EO... Is there an explanation? DIfference in pain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TREMBO View Post
    EO = Ethyl Oleate?


    I've seen formulas of high testo concentrations with and without EO... Some people utilizes just BA and BB for making a 400mg, others uses EO... Is there an explanation? DIfference in pain?

    Generally, you could use no EO ( Ethyl Oleate ) but your BA needs to be a bit higher around .025 and up to hold that concentration. with the use of EO it allows me to keep BA at a minimal, keeping pain at zero to none, and will allow me to suspend higher concentrations.

    a 50% EO 50% Oil is a good mix in my experiments
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    A sponsor on another forum I am part of offers a 600 mg/ml blend 300mg test deca, 200mg enanthate, 100mg iso. He says it's painless and I believe him he's been around a long time and has a very good reputation. No idea whats in it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbully100678 View Post
    A sponsor on another forum I am part of offers a 600 mg/ml blend 300mg test deca, 200mg enanthate, 100mg iso. He says it's painless and I believe him he's been around a long time and has a very good reputation. No idea whats in it though.

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    If its painless it most likely has EO in it, coolest blend I have ever made was

    100mg/test Prop 100mg/Mast P / 100mg Tren A per ml
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolLifter View Post
    Generally, you could use no EO ( Ethyl Oleate ) but your BA needs to be a bit higher around .025 and up to hold that concentration. with the use of EO it allows me to keep BA at a minimal, keeping pain at zero to none, and will allow me to suspend higher concentrations.

    a 50% EO 50% Oil is a good mix in my experiments
    But the solvent used to solubilize isn't the BB? BA is just for bacteriostatic...

    I think that I'll do Nandro and Cypi at 400mg/ml 2% BA 20% BB as I repported above.

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    I'm going to be making TNE with 5% ba and 40%bb, would I be wise to drop the BB amount and use half EO and half oil?

    (concentration is 100mg/ml)

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxwkw View Post
    I'm going to be making TNE with 5% ba and 40%bb, would I be wise to drop the BB amount and use half EO and half oil?

    (concentration is 100mg/ml)

    I would drop the BB to 30% and Ba 2% you BA is painfully high
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    I made 600mg/ml of EQ and it was painless..its thick but no pain

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxwkw View Post
    I'm going to be making TNE with 5% ba and 40%bb, would I be wise to drop the BB amount and use half EO and half oil?

    (concentration is 100mg/ml)
    It wont hold bro, and will be very painful. Ill sell ya good recipe for 2500$ j/k

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith1569 View Post
    I made 600mg/ml of EQ and it was painless..its thick but no pain
    %BA and BB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAWS n More View Post
    It wont hold bro, and will be very painful. Ill sell ya good recipe for 2500$ j/k
    You could tell us one of your recipes lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolLifter View Post
    If its painless it most likely has EO in it, coolest blend I have ever made was

    100mg Test Prop / 100mg Mast P / 100mg Tren A per ml
    This is exactly what I want!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAWS n More View Post
    It wont hold bro, and will be very painful. Ill sell ya good recipe for 2500$ j/k
    Think it'll hold if I drop the concentration to 50mg/ml?

    Or you could just give me your recipe...that'd be awfully nice of you.

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    Great stuff guys!! I would like to give usual concentrations that i use, i read about 40mg/ml EQ 50mg/ml...

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    I have found what works best for me is 5% BA and 20% BB with GSO .If I make I make high dose per ml gear I make it with 100% EO .Making Test Suspension in Oil .I could not get it any higher than 50 to 75 mg per ml without using guaiacol .I can not remember the amount of of guaiacol I used it would be around 1% to 2% depending on how I wanted to dose it but the guaiacol hurts when making High dose gear .Such as 200 mg per ml Tren A or Test Prop or 150 mg TNE .I have hear of guys saying they did without all that in strictly 2% BA and 20%BB with 50% GSO and 50% EO .It would crash every time on me if not in the vial but in my muscle .I listened to this BS when I first made 200 mg Tren A ,Test Prop and Primo E .I was crippled for a week or more and went out and practically begged a local Oxycontin dealer to sale me a few oxys .I could not make no gains like that .It took me a long time to learn what works best for me and how much pain I could handle .I eventually started making my gear at standard dose levels .No going out and paying visits to my local pain killer dealer .More money for my gear and supplements not counting all my other daily necessities .

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    Quote Originally Posted by go_fast1 View Post
    I have found what works best for me is 5% BA and 20% BB with GSO .If I make I make high dose per ml gear I make it with 100% EO .Making Test Suspension in Oil .I could not get it any higher than 50 to 75 mg per ml without using guaiacol .I can not remember the amount of of guaiacol I used it would be around 1% to 2% depending on how I wanted to dose it but the guaiacol hurts when making High dose gear .Such as 200 mg per ml Tren A or Test Prop or 150 mg TNE .I have hear of guys saying they did without all that in strictly 2% BA and 20%BB with 50% GSO and 50% EO .It would crash every time on me if not in the vial but in my muscle .I listened to this BS when I first made 200 mg Tren A ,Test Prop and Primo E .I was crippled for a week or more and went out and practically begged a local Oxycontin dealer to sale me a few oxys .I could not make no gains like that .It took me a long time to learn what works best for me and how much pain I could handle .I eventually started making my gear at standard dose levels .No going out and paying visits to my local pain killer dealer .More money for my gear and supplements not counting all my other daily necessities .


    Ok, so I'm now considering going with 5% BA 20%BB and 50%GSO 50%EO
    concentration of 50mg/ml

    think that'll be less painful?

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    Why are you insisting on using 5% ba? Someone already mentioned the pain from using that amount.

    Just drop it to 2%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbully100678 View Post
    Why are you insisting on using 5% ba? Someone already mentioned the pain from using that amount.

    Just drop it to 2%

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    Sorry, meant 2%

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    Guys

    using 2% ba 20%BB will hold just about anything, with the exception of extremely high mg/ml brews, or certain blends.

    And 2%ba 20%BB with 50% EO 50% GSO will hold practically anything.

    EO will allow you to hold very high concentrations without crash.

    in the end, All of you will screw up a brew from time to time, But after a few, and some on hand experience you will know for sure what works, and what doesn't work. Then the sky is the limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolLifter View Post
    Guys

    using 2% ba 20%BB will hold just about anything, with the exception of extremely high mg/ml brews, or certain blends.

    And 2%ba 20%BB with 50% EO 50% GSO will hold practically anything.

    EO will allow you to hold very high concentrations without crash.

    in the end, All of you will screw up a brew from time to time, But after a few, and some on hand experience you will know for sure what works, and what doesn't work. Then the sky is the limit.
    I think this post resumes all the thread.

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    I've only done one brew of test e at 5% ba n 20% bb, I was told it was near on painless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by booze View Post
    I've only done one brew of test e at 5% ba n 20% bb, I was told it was near on painless?

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    I have only did one brew of Test E too .Mine was relatively painless also .The rest of most of my brews were mostly Test Prop and Tren A .The Tren A and Test Prop powders worked out pretty good at 5% BA and 20% BB .I had a little more trouble with Component T-H and Synovex-H .I had thought about dropping the Component T-H down to 75 mg per ml but I have not made either one in along time with EO .That would probably be the best thing to do .I like to run my Prop higher than my Tren A anyway .
    In my opinion I think it would be best to start out at 2% BA and 20% BB in straight GSO for the first time at standard dosage levels for most gear..Test E is slightly more forgiving than say Test Prop or Tren A.Most of the Tren A kits gave 75 mg per ml with what ever they provided with the complete kits .
    I would work from there to see what works best .Would not hurt to buy some EO aand GSO .Do not go over 20% BB at any dose .I would not go over 5% BA either .If you need to make it any higher use Guaiacol .Guaiacol stings at higher percentages but the next day you will not have to worry about pain in your muscle .Plus it smells up your cooking area .At 1% Guaiacol it is relatively painless .100 % EO will eat the rubber in your syringe .I use a new syringe every sot any way even if I am pinning bilateral .I am pretty sure I had to use 100% EO ,5% BA and 20% BB and around 2% Guaiacol for my TNE to hold .I never tried it in water .I would like to if I ever buy Test Base again .I do not think I tried any thing higher than 2.5 % Guaiacol .It would sting too much but held my gear and no pain the next day.
    In the end just try what works best for you .Back when I first started we did not have the now standard 2% BA and 20% BB around .Some people were recommending as much as 9% BA and 15% BB back then for Tren A .This is just from my personal experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by TREMBO View Post
    %BA and BB?

    sorry no bb and ba 2%

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith1569 View Post
    sorry no bb and ba 2%
    What formula then?

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    EQ 600mg/ml (50 ml)


    2% BA
    10% BB
    50% EO
    50% Oil (whatever carrier oil)

    30g EQ
    1ml BA
    5ml BB
    7.714ml EQ
    7.714ml Carrier oil


    Personally I'd just go all EO though, get rid of the carrier oil completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSchoolLifter View Post
    Here is one for you

    400mg/ml Test E

    12ml Grape See
    12ml EO
    1ml BA
    10ml BB
    20g Test E Powder

    Works nicely

    you should be using 10.1ml Grapeseed and 10.1ml EO.

    You're underdosed slightly with your current formulation ~371mg/ml.

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    If you want to make high concentration homebrews your secrets are guaiacol, Ethyl Oleate and maybe BB.

    Too much BB is not good for you - eventhough the HG stuff has 20% bb, thats for HRT type doses, not the doses we run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UA_Iron View Post
    you should be using 10.1ml Grapeseed and 10.1ml EO.

    You're underdosed slightly with your current formulation ~371mg/ml.
    How so? What ester weight are you using?

    The brew I posted makes 50ml T400
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