Thread: Clenbuterol?????

1)never seen inj clen, only liquid and tabs. Both work well provided theyre dosed correctly.
2) clen has a long half life so most do 2 weeks on 2 weeks off 2 weeks on
3) ECA stack is ephedrine caffiene aspirin, a weaker clen pretty much
4) if u did inject it it'd probably be subcutaneous inj
5) IMO yes, less than 50mg daily of t3
6) dose dependent, keep protein high and 50mg dose should be fine
7) varies by person and yes. Slightly anabolic
8) no

Never heard of injectable clen.... IMO, didn't do too much for me... I got leaner with a cycle of havoc...

i think he is refering to Helios or something like that which is a mixture of clen and yhombine i think. and it is injectable, but i dont really know much about it.

Originally Posted by Call of Ktulu

1. What is the difference between injectable clen or oral clen? Which is better/ more effective? Which is more dangerous?
2. I looked at the link (Clen FAQ) and so should I only do it for 17 days then cycle off for 17 days?
3. What is the ECA stack?
4. How do you inject it?
5. Should I cycle with T3?
6. Is T3 detrimental to strength and muscle gains?
7. Is clen good for strength gains or anti-catabolic?
8. Do I need pct for Clen?
9. Is it safe to use at 21 almost 22?
10. Can I take jack3d with it?
11. What is Clen’s effects on the liver, heart and libido?
12. What’s the difference between clen and albuterol? Which is better? Which is safer?
Can you please answer my questions with the corresponding number so I do not have to waste space making threads to answer all of these questions? I want to save space in this section with one thread. Thank you.

Good questions-I am going to purchase some Clen from extreme peptide next week(for research with my rat..) and wanted these questions answered before I do.

9. Is it safe to use at 21 almost 22?
Yes
10. Can I take jack3d with it?
Yes
11. What is Clen’s effects on the liver, heart and libido?
not much, increased heart beat/maybe bp, nothing
12. What’s the difference between clen and albuterol? Which is better? Which is safer?
albuterol has less sides for most and some say it works a little better but i haven't tried it myself to comment, albuterol is probably "safer" although both are perfectly safe using the right dosage

Clenbuterol vs. Albuterol

One other thing, does it show up on a drug test? If it does, as what substance?

I retract my previous statement. Clen doesn't show up on methamphetamine tests but ephedra might.

Originally Posted by pieguy

I retract my previous statement. Clen doesn't show up on methamphetamine tests but ephedra might.

What about albuterol?

Hi,
im female, im 20 and i weigh 50kgs, im wanting to lose say 8kgs.
im wanting to try clen but im unsure what dosage/cycle.
can anyone help?

Originally Posted by beee

Hi,
im female, im 20 and i weigh 50kgs, im wanting to lose say 8kgs.
im wanting to try clen but im unsure what dosage/cycle.
can anyone help?

I would suggest you to start at 40mcg, and increase by 10mcg every 2 days, if you experience shakes or headaches lower the dose.

How tall are you as 50kg isn't much.
The only woman I know who weights 50kg is extremely skinny 5ft6 marathon runner.

Most 5'2" Asian females coast at that weight. I'd run up to 80mg daily till u reach ur goals. Take a break after 2 weeks or supplement ketotifen

I was jittery enough on clen alone, so I couldn't even imagine how uncomfortable if I took Jack3d with it....

Originally Posted by pieguy

I retract my previous statement. Clen doesn't show up on methamphetamine tests but ephedra might.

I just took a drug test on friday and had taken ephedrine that morning and came up all clean, so shouldnt cause any issues - not sure if a much higher dose would though

Originally Posted by Call of Ktulu

What about albuterol?

nope

hah athis stuff sounds pretty cool hopefully it will help me get ripped with an eight pack so bitches will love me

Originally Posted by Call of Ktulu

1. What is the difference between injectable clen or oral clen? Which is better/ more effective? Which is more dangerous?
Injectable clen or Helios is more effective and dangerous and can also give spot reduction results. Haven't tried it myself and unless i use it for a competition i probably wont
2. I looked at the link (Clen FAQ) and so should I only do it for 17 days then cycle off for 17 days?
yes, you can also do 2 weeks on / one week off and run ketotifen or benadryl on your week off to try to up-regulate beta receptors
3. What is the ECA stack?
Ephedrine Hcl or Ephedra / Caffeine / Aspirin - usually dosed at 25mg/200mg/81mg, 1-4 times a day (aspirin isnt entirely necessary and definitely isnt needed with every dose if doing 3 or 4x/day)
4. How do you inject it?
Clen/Helios? Judging from your knowledge at this point my polite and honest answer in your case is: you DONT. stick with oral ECA, Albuterol, or Clen. When you're knowledgeable and comfortable enough though it's a sub-q injection from what i've heard
5. Should I cycle with T3?
depends on why you're cutting. if it's for personal appearance (not competition) i would say no. and if it's for a competition, i would say do without it if you can but at least you'll have a reason to fuck with your thyroid if this is the case - i'm not a big fan of thyroid hormones and haven't used them
6. Is T3 detrimental to strength and muscle gains?
Yes T3 is catabolic, generally run only if the user is on AAS to preserve muscle
7. Is clen good for strength gains or anti-catabolic?
Won't see much as far as strength gains really, but it preserves muscle better than many cutting agents
8. Do I need pct for Clen?
No, but Ketotifen/Benadryl can be used to try to up-regulate the beta receptors which tend to become resistant after a short amount of time on clen or other stimulants
9. Is it safe to use at 21 almost 22?
It's not all that 'safe' of a chemical for any age, but you're no worse off at 21-22.
10. Can I take jack3d with it?
I would suggest strongly against using any other stimulants while running Clen. Jack3d has quite a few in it and probably would not be a great idea.
11. What is Clen’s effects on the liver, heart and libido?
Mild effect on the liver, higher doses can cause cardiac cell death, and no real effect on libido in my experience (increased a bit if anything)
12. What’s the difference between clen and albuterol? Which is better? Which is safer?
Albuterol gives comparable results, less sides, and is safer. I would suggest Albuterol over Clenbuterol starting out - and I saw better results with albuterol than clen (tends to be more costly though)
Can you please answer my questions with the corresponding number so I do not have to waste space making threads to answer all of these questions? I want to save space in this section with one thread. Thank you.

Boldly answering ALL THE QUESTIONS

Thanks Dannie, yeah im about the same height 5,6.

Originally Posted by beee

Thanks Dannie, yeah im about the same height 5,6.

Welcome to the forums by the way.

same crap liquid imo hits quicker

Since albuterol and clen are anti-catabolic and anabolic, does that mean they prevent muscle loss?

Originally Posted by Call of Ktulu

Since albuterol and clen are anti-catabolic and anabolic, does that mean they prevent muscle loss?

Yes. I can attest to them being better at preventing as much muscle loss as other thermogenics especially while on a calorie deficit. That being said, if you cut with clen or albuterol while using AAS you will maintain MUCH more muscle than if you do so without

Originally Posted by ScottyMac710

Yes. I can attest to them being better at preventing as much muscle loss as other thermogenics especially while on a calorie deficit. That being said, if you cut with clen or albuterol while using AAS you will maintain MUCH more muscle than if you do so without

So even if I run long durations and do catabolic exercises, I won't burn muscle?

Originally Posted by Call of Ktulu

So even if I run long durations and do catabolic exercises, I won't burn muscle?

no, you can still definitely burn off muscle if you overtrain and run it for too long. What i meant is that it will burn fat and spare muscle more than other thermogenics (even many over-the-counter thermo's have caused more muscle loss for me despite clen burning much more fat) but clen will not completely keep muscle from being lost if you run it too high of dose, too long, or cause muscle loss through overtraining.

As I said before though, if you are running AAS with it you will be in a more anabolic state than with clen alone.

most thermos: burn fat + catabolic
Clen: burn lots of fat + less catabolic
AAS: some can help with fat loss + anabolic
Clen + AAS: Burn lots of fat + Anabolic