Thread: Formeron LOG!!!

Awesome. Your gonna like it

Originally Posted by brundel

Awesome. Your gonna like it

It's my second bottle, I already love it!!!!

Damn that was quick. Ordered wed night got it today!
You and pars must be brothers! great job i appreciate the quickness!!
Btw your awesome for sending sample supps; but the 1mr and roxylean from experience
does not work at all for me!

I'll vouch for tgb as well. has a great selection and shipping times were amazing for me.

well I guess I will be hopping on this bandwagon!!! If Anabolic is on his 2nd bottle, plus some of the reviews from others I respect, I think I am in.

Some questions to help please:

This is formestane, right? So what is the difference between doing it transdermally vs just popping a few formestane daily?

Can this product be something I take, or rub on, like a daily lotion inbetween cycles or do I have to take a rest from it?

I'm using it everyday transdermally. I apply it to the inside of one forearm and the rub my forearms together as Brundel recommended. It's all I will use from here on out, period. And the only place I will buy it is from TGB.

i learned one harsh lesson tho.... you cant always trust advice you get on line... Case in point, I took formestane as a PCT when I first started training (pct to PH). problem was i was told chemical was not good, not worth it, I should go with XYZ product, etc.... And being green to all this, I listened and in the back of my head, I trashed formestane for a long time. Now I am starting to see that my local gym nutrition store was right, you guys got something cooking here and you never know when you are being sold a bill of goods by reps pretending to give advice as if they are trying to help when in fact, all they did was divert my to a different product their company sold.... Been readin g up on this more and I see a read to revisit this product again.... My thing is why a transdermal?

Brundel can answer the why question, all I know is it works and works well. My labs prove it, and both bottles I have I paid for out of my pocket, and I'll continue to do so. It's that good Bro, you'll see for yourself.

I will.... thanks

Originally Posted by anabolic5150

brundel can answer the why question, all i know is it works and works well. My labs prove it, and both bottles i have i paid for out of my pocket, and i'll continue to do so. It's that good bro, you'll see for yourself.

x2

Originally Posted by carmineb

i learned one harsh lesson tho.... you cant always trust advice you get on line... Case in point, I took formestane as a PCT when I first started training (pct to PH). problem was i was told chemical was not good, not worth it, I should go with XYZ product, etc.... And being green to all this, I listened and in the back of my head, I trashed formestane for a long time. Now I am starting to see that my local gym nutrition store was right, you guys got something cooking here and you never know when you are being sold a bill of goods by reps pretending to give advice as if they are trying to help when in fact, all they did was divert my to a different product their company sold.... Been readin g up on this more and I see a read to revisit this product again.... My thing is why a transdermal?

from what I recall brundel telling me, is that formastane doesn't get absorbed well when taken orally. you need to either inject it or it needs to be transdermal like brundel has with his formerone.

Is standard dose one pump a day?

Bottle says 1-2 a day

Originally Posted by johnniejr243

Damn that was quick. Ordered wed night got it today!
You and pars must be brothers! great job i appreciate the quickness!!
Btw your awesome for sending sample supps; but the 1mr and roxylean from experience
does not work at all for me!

Next time send me a PM when you order and I will be sure to send you something different for samples lol. Everyone is different. Speaking of preworkout supps If anyone is looking for an intense Preworkout you got to try the Betancourt Nutrition D-Stunner. Shit is intense for even the most seasoned stimulant junkie.

Originally Posted by TGB1987

you got to try the Betancourt Nutrition D-Stunner. Shit is intense for even the most seasoned stimulant junkie.

Originally Posted by carmineb

i learned one harsh lesson tho.... you cant always trust advice you get on line... Case in point, I took formestane as a PCT when I first started training (pct to PH). problem was i was told chemical was not good, not worth it, I should go with XYZ product, etc.... And being green to all this, I listened and in the back of my head, I trashed formestane for a long time. Now I am starting to see that my local gym nutrition store was right, you guys got something cooking here and you never know when you are being sold a bill of goods by reps pretending to give advice as if they are trying to help when in fact, all they did was divert my to a different product their company sold.... Been readin g up on this more and I see a read to revisit this product again.... My thing is why a transdermal?

Many companies will try to sell you anything as long as they make a dollar. Black Lion is nothing like that . If a product is not up to par then Brundel will not put it in his line. He wants to have his products be the best of the best. It always pays to do research on your own to confirm what others tell you about supplements when they are trying to sell you something. As for why transdermal, well you are right Formestane has terrible bioavailability orally. Some companies have put out oral products and they have been practically useless. Formestane gets absorbed Transdermally much much better than it does orally. When taken orally the liver eliminates it on the first pass preventing it from entering the blood stream. When used Transdermally it by passes the first pass. This allows the drug to work as intended. Also This product has the best Transdermal carrier I have ever used. It goes on quick gets absorbed very quickly within 10 seconds. You can actually feel it pull into the skin. It drys clear and even leaves a pleasant smell. It is as easy to use as capsules but gives a much stronger effect. You also get a lot of use out of one bottle. At one pump a day it will last anywhere 3-4 months in most cases. 120ml bottle and a pump that dispenses 1ml per pump.

Originally Posted by TGB1987

Next time send me a PM when you order and I will be sure to send you something different for samples lol. Everyone is different. Speaking of preworkout supps If anyone is looking for an intense Preworkout you got to try the Betancourt Nutrition D-Stunner. Shit is intense for even the most seasoned stimulant junkie.

Awesomeness, you da man!!

Originally Posted by carmineb

i learned one harsh lesson tho.... you cant always trust advice you get on line... Case in point, I took formestane as a PCT when I first started training (pct to PH). problem was i was told chemical was not good, not worth it, I should go with XYZ product, etc.... And being green to all this, I listened and in the back of my head, I trashed formestane for a long time. Now I am starting to see that my local gym nutrition store was right, you guys got something cooking here and you never know when you are being sold a bill of goods by reps pretending to give advice as if they are trying to help when in fact, all they did was divert my to a different product their company sold.... Been readin g up on this more and I see a read to revisit this product again.... My thing is why a transdermal?

Im right there with you . I can only find reviews on this board . I like what im reading on these logs here , but still this being the only board i can find anything on this has me hesitant . One has to watch their dough and health. i like to do my homework but this almost looks to good to be true. Can anyone tell us how long black lion reseach has been around. Their Domain has only been created on 2011-11-18. unless they went by another name. Thanks

Black Lion is new. There are not many reviews because of that. There are some reviews on Muscular Development forums though. Brundel is the head guy of Black Lion Research so anyone that knows Brundel should know what to expect. I totally understand why you are hesitant and you have reason to be. Many others are out to take you for everything you can. That is the not the case here but you don't know that. If I was concerned about it I would just hang tight until more reviews come out. That way you know more of what to expect. In the meantime you can research Formestane. Formestane has been around for sometime and others have tried to produce it. Formestane transdermal products from other companies were not bad but they didn't have the same delivery system as Black Lion and they also only gave you half as much for the same cost. The Oral Formestane products are mostly all garbage due to the low oral Bioavailability. Take your time brother. I don't think Black Lion will be going anywhere soon. They are only going to get bigger from what I see.

man i just bought methadrol and i would like to run this with it so now i'm going to wait to give this a go, looks promising. any logs showing of what this does by itself? my bad if i already missed it

Originally Posted by TGB1987

Black Lion is new. There are not many reviews because of that. There are some reviews on Muscular Development forums though. Brundel is the head guy of Black Lion Research so anyone that knows Brundel should know what to expect. I totally understand why you are hesitant and you have reason to be. Many others are out to take you for everything you can. That is the not the case here but you don't know that. If I was concerned about it I would just hang tight until more reviews come out. That way you know more of what to expect. In the meantime you can research Formestane. Formestane has been around for sometime and others have tried to produce it. Formestane transdermal products from other companies were not bad but they didn't have the same delivery system as Black Lion and they also only gave you half as much for the same cost. The Oral Formestane products are mostly all garbage due to the low oral Bioavailability. Take your time brother. I don't think Black Lion will be going anywhere soon. They are only going to get bigger from what I see.

Now that's some stand up stuff right there. No where in there was he urging a worried customer to purchase and even mentioned to hang tight till they feel confident. two thumbs up on just that alone.

Originally Posted by bigmoe65

I might be trying formeron for my trt once I get my first set of bloods back next week. My insurance doesnt look like it will cover an ai. I dont like what I read about arimidex and how it affects lipids and Aromasin (pharm grade) is really expensive from what I have found online. If I go the formeron route I will post before and after blood work.

I am on trt as well and I will definetly be checking this stuff out. Sounds perfect for me

Originally Posted by drow

man i just bought methadrol and i would like to run this with it so now i'm going to wait to give this a go, looks promising. any logs showing of what this does by itself? my bad if i already missed it

Formeron would be a great addition to a methadrol cycle.
It will aid in strength gains
reduce any potential water retention
Help to prevent potential gyno
Help to keep natural test levels going on cycle but also kick start the balls once you stop the Methadrol.

FOrmestane has a 4% oral bioavailability.
This means you would get roughly 4mg out of every 100mg you ate.
Initially it was made as an injectable to get around this but you cant sell injectables over the counter so transdermal is the only way to get this stuff into you.

The company has not been around long but I have.
I was like everyone else.....trying to get big and I bought literally 100+ supplements...To this day I only use about 3 of those....
BCAA
WHEY
Caffeine

WHy? because all the other ones are garbage.
My goal is to bring quality products for guys like us.
There are not many good companies out there.
IronMagLabs Bodybuilding Supplements & Prohormones: Home is one.
Black lion is another. We make stuff that you cant really get anywhere else.
Like an acne med.
We make stuff that complements your cycles.
All of our products are hand compounded.

The bottom line is I know whats its like to buy garbage supps and waste your money.
This will never happen with Black Lion.

well I appreciate the fact that you are here answering questions and concerns Brundel.

Glad to see my log is helping everybody. I am still on 4 pumps a day and loving it. Very dry, I have found out that this product helps keep the bloat off after a crazy day of cheat meals! I fucking love it!

Originally Posted by brundel

FOrmestane has a 4% oral bioavailability.
This means you would get roughly 4mg out of every 100mg you ate.
Initially it was made as an injectable to get around this but you cant sell injectables over the counter so transdermal is the only way to get this stuff into you.

The company has not been around long but I have.
I was like everyone else.....trying to get big and I bought literally 100+ supplements...To this day I only use about 3 of those....
BCAA
WHEY
Caffeine

WHy? because all the other ones are garbage.
My goal is to bring quality products for guys like us.
There are not many good companies out there.
IronMagLabs Bodybuilding Supplements & Prohormones: Home is one.
Black lion is another. We make stuff that you cant really get anywhere else.
Like an acne med.
We make stuff that complements your cycles.
All of our products are hand compounded.

The bottom line is I know whats its like to buy garbage supps and waste your money.
This will never happen with Black Lion.

what would you estimate the absorption of the transdermal? 15-25%?

i thought it was 40% but i could be WAY off