Thread: Formeron LOG!!!

Originally Posted by BIGBEN2011

the only and i mean only bad thing for me about this stuff is what is a dose i understand a pump is a dose but evey pump a little diff if i do a big pump i get big dose little pump.so diff amounts each time i pump it would be good if we could see a pic of a dose size like is it the size of a pea a nickel a apple etc what?

I wondered the same thing when mine came, here is what I do. I make sure to get one complete pump, the stuff is fairly thick. I put it on the same spot on my forearm and have noticed through use that it is almost the exact same circumfrence every time I apply it. I know its not scientific, but to me its as close as you are gonna get without some way of measuring. The bottle and the pump are very high quality, I think you'll see that when you order.

Like Anny said, the bottle and pump are high quality, so you should be getting the same dose every time, if not, pretty damn close. Ive only been using it a couple of days, but I noticed that it pumps pretty even, every time.

Originally Posted by BIGBEN2011

the only and i mean only bad thing for me about this stuff is what is a dose i understand a pump is a dose but evey pump a little diff if i do a big pump i get big dose little pump.so diff amounts each time i pump it would be good if we could see a pic of a dose size like is it the size of a pea a nickel a apple etc what?

a pump = 1 full top to bottom pump. This equates to 1ml.
The pump can only draw so much into it and expell so much at a time.
I measured it. Its 1ml.
In each ML there is 50mg formestane.

The absorption rate can only be estimated. This is based upon a few factors.
Your skin
moisture
oiliness of the skin
The transdermal carrier
the compound.

In this case the carrier is as good as It can be...Pharmaceutical compounding pharmacies use a cream and its nowhere as efficient.
Black Lion uses a similar vehicle to androgel. But we added a couple things to assist absorption.
The compound formestane is a very tough one.
This is because although the actual molecules are relatively small they are very non soluble.
Formestane will not break down in 100% ethyl alcohol.
So...only a part of it is in solution and some in suspension. This is why you see a residue after you apply.
Not to worry. There is more than enough in solution to get to the desired result.

We can assume between 30-50% potentially higher depending on if you have well hydrated skin. Drink lots of water...(if your one of us you should be drinking a gallon a day anyways) and apply after a shower for best results.

In test studies....the highest dose of Formestane was 500mg a week.
Prescription dose was set at no more than 250mg a week for cancer patients.
After 500mg no further suppression of aromatase was documented.
If you did 4 pumps a day =1400mg/@ 50% thats 700mg a week.....
So say you did 2 pumps....350mg a week which is far more than is medically prescribed to completely wipe out all estrogen for patients with estrogen dependent cancers.

This means 1 pump...is plenty for use as an AI. ...2 is like a heavy dose of aromasin.
3-4 youll start really seeing some prohormone activity and drying to the point where its certainly noticeable beyond the obvious lack of titties and crying at movies.

Nice work gents. I will be placing order 4 sure.

Originally Posted by brundel

In test studies....the highest dose of Formestane was 500mg a week.
Prescription dose was set at no more than 250mg a week for cancer patients.
After 500mg no further suppression of aromatase was documented.
If you did 4 pumps a day =1400mg/@ 50% thats 700mg a week.....
So say you did 2 pumps....350mg a week which is far more than is medically prescribed to completely wipe out all estrogen for patients with estrogen dependent cancers.

This means 1 pump...is plenty for use as an AI. ...2 is like a heavy dose of aromasin.
3-4 youll start really seeing some prohormone activity and drying to the point where its certainly noticeable beyond the obvious lack of titties and crying at movies.

Great info, thanks bro.

Originally Posted by brundel

3-4 youll start really seeing some prohormone activity and drying to the point where its certainly noticeable beyond the obvious lack of titties and crying at movies.

I think not crying at movies is the best feature

Originally Posted by Vibrant

I think not crying at movies is the best feature

4 pumps is a wonderful feeling

Originally Posted by TGB1987

Next time send me a PM when you order and I will be sure to send you something different for samples lol. Everyone is different. Speaking of preworkout supps If anyone is looking for an intense Preworkout you got to try the Betancourt Nutrition D-Stunner. Shit is intense for even the most seasoned stimulant junkie.

Ok ,i just ordered up formeron and some xtend . Ill keep you posted.

good job

damn no wonder why i have been crying all the time .damn i need to cut back on my pumps.jk

would there be any anabolic effect at 1 pump a day? or just an ai effect?

would it be good to continue running after pct? in between cycles? it would be nice to stay a little bit more anabolic without suppression.

looking good man Dont know how I missed this

I am going to have to try this sooner than later. I have a formestane product but it takes 20 pumps to get the dose you get out of 4 from Formeron. Also, my elbow needs to heel up so the AIs stop making it nurt; fucking tennis elbow!

TwoTuff, are you noticing anything unusual?
Normally an AI will reduce estrogen. Its nice not having titties and less bloat.
I mean do you notice any strength or vascularity or hardening?

I have used CEL Formestane before. As part of PCT. It was Horrible.

Interesting log I hope it continues to work for you. Perhaps CEL just sucked lol

Originally Posted by brundel

TwoTuff, are you noticing anything unusual?
Normally an AI will reduce estrogen. Its nice not having titties and less bloat.
I mean do you notice any strength or vascularity or hardening?

YES YES AND YES, ive been meaning to post a couple of my worouts, alast i am in the middle of my busy season at work so, im strong as fuck right now! i am having veins come out of my quads, and crazy veins in my arms. (SORRY heavy you aint got shit on me right now.) I also hit a new PR with 245 on a standing shoulder press (fucking beast mode). I am still carb cycling and I have seemed to gain a few pounds, my body fat is lowing tho. I will get some new photos up real soon to show some comparisons.

Today was the end of my first bottle, it didnt last me one month at 4 pumps but that may have been a user error.

Originally Posted by ckcrown84

I have used CEL Formestane before. As part of PCT. It was Horrible.

Interesting log I hope it continues to work for you. Perhaps CEL just sucked lol

You should grab a bottle and give this product a try, it will blow your mind!

Originally Posted by ckcrown84

I have used CEL Formestane before. As part of PCT. It was Horrible.

Interesting log I hope it continues to work for you. Perhaps CEL just sucked lol

I'm glad your posting this.
It's true the cel Formestane is garbage. The transdermal carrier is horrible. In addition they didn't include anything to get the Formestane pArtially in solution. If this isn't done....almost none or none will get through the skin. It's a very delicate mix to get it right and make it so it'll absorb but not eat through your skin.

The Black Lion Formeron actually works. It will work for your main on cycle ai or for pct.

The bottle has a domed bottom you may need to take the top off and turn the bottle over to get the rest out.

I plan on running Formeron solo as a prohormone cycle with no PCT. What gains should I expect? And what dosing?

I plan on running Formeron solo as a prohormone cycle with no PCT. What should I expect for gains? And dosing?

Firstly keep in mind that Formeron is primarily an AI.
It does have significant PH potential, however, and will illicit gains at some point.
How much is dose dependent.
1-2 pumps and youll be dry and hard....3-4 and things start to happen outside of what would normally be expected from an AI.

If your using it stand alone I think 4 pumps per day is a good dose.

You can expect hardening, drying, vascularity, strength....and potentially some weight gain.

Originally Posted by brundel

Firstly keep in mind that Formeron is primarily an AI.
It does have significant PH potential, however, and will illicit gains at some point.
How much is dose dependent.
1-2 pumps and youll be dry and hard....3-4 and things start to happen outside of what would normally be expected from an AI.

If your using it stand alone I think 4 pumps per day is a good dose.

You can expect hardening, drying, vascularity, strength....and potentially some weight gain.

i should be getting my formeron tomorrow from tgb.. i was wandering how soon can you notice drop in water weight?

Thank you brother for this information,i like and interesting in this,thanks a lots!

So if running formeron as a stand alone theres obviously no need for a pct, but would you recommend tapering off? Also, if used at a dosage of 3-4 pumps how long would you run it for?

Originally Posted by Pssssstyo

i should be getting my formeron tomorrow from tgb.. i was wandering how soon can you notice drop in water weight?

It happens pretty fast but everyone is different so its impossible to tell you for sure.
For me it takes about a week and people start commenting.