What is tb500 guys,does it release natty gh,or is it site injected around
the injury? how does it work.
Lots of studies to prove that the TB500 is excellent for soft tissue repair. As in that is specifically what it is used for in horses.
For the IGF-1 Lr3, IGF-1 is well known for it's healing and recovery properties. The reason the Lr3 is better for healing tendons and ligaments than regular IGF-1 is that it stays unbound in the system longer, this gives the connective tissue (which has a lot less circulation) time to actually have a shot at delivering more of the IGF bound to its receptors so they can grow / heal the cells.
What is tb500 guys,does it release natty gh,or is it site injected around
the injury? how does it work.


TB-500 is a synthetic version of the naturally occurring peptide present in virtually all human and animal cells, Thymosin Beta 4 (Tβ4). It is a first-in-class peptide candidate that promotes the following*:
Endothelial (blood vessels) cell differentiation Angiogenesis (growth of new blood cells from pre-existing vessels) in dermal tissues Keratinocyte migration Collagen deposition; and Decreases inflammation.
Cheers,i might look into that,ive just had my knee scoped,ive run some
gh and peps,they had trouble getting the stitches out lol,healed up
quick!

Got a ways to go before I hit that 25 post count lol. Anyway I'd like to know more about the injection methods if possible. My rabbit gets anxious around needles. How far into the skin does the syringe usually go for sub q as opposed to intramuscular? I'm told the TB-500 is intra and Ipam is sub-q.

Also, what are the usual dosages of each? Forgot to mention I'm gonna start with the TB-500 and Ipam than throw the IGF-1 Lr3 in the mix later down the line as it's the most costly. I'll need to know whats best to dissolve these in as well, bacteriostatic water or acetic acid?Thanks for the help Pittsburgh.
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Research studies have further shown that one (2ml. vial) Sub-Q Inj. each week for six consecutive weeks provides the best results. There after, use only one (2ml. vial) per month. It's best to give the Sub-Q Inj. 6 days before intense work outs. Therefore for best results, one vial per Sub-Q injection per week for 6 consecutive weeks, then 1 vial per month (the glass vial is 2ml, with 10mg TB-500 per vial), so it is 10mg/2ml).


Seems like a lot of people are researching tb 500 like this
10 mg loading dose first week, then 5 mg/week for 5 consecutive weeks and 10 mg/month maintenance dose. I hope that would be ok for TB500 benefits with no side effects.


Gotcha. I'm looking at syringes n came across this: Insulin Syringe U-100 .5cc,30 ga x 5/16"
Is this a good size for sub-q?

I like 1/2 inch, but that will work.
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Yeah they go in about half an inch. I have seen a lot of people running this a 2mg a week and getting good results. Not sure that 10mg and 5mg is required to get the effects. I am fron loading with 4mg then running 2mg for the following 5 weeks

For the igf the best to use is acetic acid if you use that it has a shelf live of over a year, with the sodium chloride it's a couple months, and only a couple weeks with bw. Idk anything about tb-500 though. One thing though the AA will sting like a bitch, I would load up 1/2 cc then add 1/2 of bw and it still hurt.

DEFENITELY look into "micro-dosing" MGF and even your GHRP/GHRH combo. This is really the best avenue to take.

Thanks guys. I'll be starting with Ipam in a few days. Hey Kleen do you have any injuries you're trying to heal?


Lr3 and tb-500 is the best for your request.
I plan on using some TB-500 for research here shortly, hope it gives me the final push for my elbow to heal.

There is a TB-500 thread here Tß4 that can give you more info.
I ran the TB-500 in conjunction with the rest of my gear and honestly was underwhelmed. I found in a post that human subjects were injected with 10mgs, twice a week for 4 weeks as the front load and that got some good results. I am saving up to try that approach, folowed by the 5mgs a week for 4 weeks then 2mgs a week for maintenance. If i see that i can back off a bit, i will do that though.
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If there's a way to minimize the side effects of Lr3, the drop in blood sugar particularly, I'd definitely go for it. Theres a good possibility that I may be pre-diabetic and I know supplementing with chromium helps regulate blood sugar but I'm not sure if it'd help reduce the sugar drop associated with Lr3.
Medicinal, the only way to mitigate the carb leaching from Lr3 is to eat carbs. It is basically pretty standard to eat 40 grams of carbs every 2 hours for 6-8 hours to avoid hypo due to carb leaching. WMS or Maltodextrine would be great, so would oats or oat powder so you don't have to cook stuff for each of those.
This is exactly what I was looking for. My shoulder has some issues along with a few other spots and was hoping to try a few peptides to cure those issues. I see kind of the same ones recommend but what would be best for someone like me trying to recover a few spots of injury? I was going to include LR3 into the mix. Want to avoid HGH. If it helps, my knee, wrist and shoulder/back are messed up, back being the worst. Ran LR3 before but I believe the stuff I had was crap, didn't notice anything at 40mcg total.

What are the issues with your shoulder JCbourne? Once I get the CJC-1295 I'll start running it together with the Ipam. I'm not sure how much to use of each however. I've read that some use the Ipam at 200 mcg twice a day, and that others think that amount is too much.

igf-1 lr3 for 6 weeks and 6months ghrp/ghrh regimen and you should be good

Human Growth Hormone also has the ability to stimulate the production (or reproduction, in the case of an injury) of cartilage. This, however, requires the presence of a mediator substance, Somatomedin (IGF), which is released from the liver in response to Human Growth Hormone, and the IGF, in turn, actually promotes the growth of cartilage.(1)
Human Growth Hormone also has the ability to stimulate the production (or reproduction, in the case of an injury) of cartilage. This, however, requires the presence of a mediator substance, Somatomedin (IGF), which is released from the liver in response to Human Growth Hormone, and the IGF, in turn, actually promotes the growth of cartilage.(1)
Shooting Human Growth Hormone every other day more accurately replicates the pulsile frequency of Human Growth Hormone, and thus gave better results for growth (height) deficient children, Human Growth Hormone pulsatility is necessary for proper function of the Human Growth Hormone receptor.(10) Dosing in the EOD nature reduces incidence of any sort of withdrawal problems associated with normal Human Growth Hormone use, including regression or retardation of growth after cessation of therapy.
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