Thread: IPAM & CJC1295 Mini Log ( Purchase Peptides Products )

Originally Posted by juggernaut

So many conflicting views on when to take for bulking. I would like some recommendations if possible.

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Per datbtrue
"Administration should ideally be done on either an empty stomach or with only protein in the stomach. Fats & carbs blunt GH release. So administer the peptides and wait about 20 minutes (no more then 30 but no less then 15 minutes) to eat. AT that point the GH pulse has about hit the peak and you can eat what you want."

I saw that post elsewhere.
So does that mean after the period of time of administering the injection, I can have carbs after? What about post workout?

This is what I do ..
AM-Wake up , PIN, take shower Eat
Pre workout meal, workout, PIN post workout, wait 20 Minutes then Eat
PM-PIN before bed..

That's what I was going to use.

But I'm a bit confused about the carbs-when am I able to take them? After the injection/15-30 minute time lapse?

Originally Posted by juggernaut

That's what I was going to use.

But I'm a bit confused about the carbs-when am I able to take them? After the injection/15-30 minute time lapse?

15-30 works...and best to go AT LEAST 90 minutes without carbs or fats before dosing.

Carbs and fats will hinder, not inhibit, pulsation. Fats to a greater degree than carbs. Protein has no effect.

And you may go above 3 doses per day. Ive done up to 6. 7 would be unecassary, and would have no further effect on satellite cell differentiation or systemic and local IGF-1 levels.

If you go up to 6 doses per day, you can do less than half saturation doses, if you got clinical grade stuff. 98 percent of peptides on the market are less than as pure as they should be. Thats why people report loving 300mcg doses...........because its probably taking them that much to get what 100mcg's would give them with clinical grade.

Going up to 6 doses however is not without its risks. The indefinite rise in systemic IGF-1 levels associated with it can cause the same types of side effects as high dosage rHGH can.

So I toggle. 1X per day for 2 weeks, 4Xper day for 2 weeks, and then 6X per day for two weeks...repeat.

One dose per day is all that is needed for anti-aging purposes.

Thanks for the input on carbs. It's pretty easy now.
I'm going to stick with 3x a day. I dont have much time to pin that often.

Thoughts on IM injecting vs. Subcutaneous injecting?

With GHRP/GHRH combo it makes no difference going IM vs Sub-Q. There is a difference in absorption that can be measured in seconds, that is all. The overall effect is exactly the same.

And remember that fats are more inhibitory than carbs when it comes to pulsation. It really only takes a couple of grams to do it too.

Everybody seems to focus so much on carbs.

LOL I'm not giving up my carbs....fuhhhhck that! I just want to know what to eat before I start...usually I'll start with 6 egg, but switching to egg whites in the morning is no big deal, so I guess I'm sticking with that until I'm ready to slam down the carbs (after the injection).

Sounds good! Btw...you probably dont need to go all the way to 30 minutes. I think 20 minutes provides the perfect balance between not inhibiting the pulse too much and making sure that you get your nutrients in so that you have all the available raw materials for your pulse to use to build muscles. Same goes for all of your doses though, not just PWO. At least if your only goal is anablism, which it seems to be.

With the increase in calories, will the peps actually circumvent fat gain from happening?

Probably not. GHRP/GHRH combo causes a spike in GH levels, which causes fatty acids to be liberated into the bloodsteam where they must be used as fuel. This can really only be sucessfully achieved with a caloric defeciet.

A great way to burn fat is doing fasted cardio with peps. Wake up, dose, wait 1 hour, cardio, wait another hour or two, and then eat.

I do that once or twice per week even when bulking...it helps to keep fat off. Plus I believe that the "mini-fast" primes the system for more mass gains.

I may try that.

I'm confused to how much bac water to use with 1-29. If I add 2cc of water to my vial how much does that make perfect dose?

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

I may try that.

I'm confused to how much bac water to use with 1-29. If I add 2cc of water to my vial how much does that make perfect dose?

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2cc=200iu's

2mg's=2000mcg's

2000mcg's/200iu's=10mcg's per iu

So if you wanted 100mcg's you would draw to the 10 mark

So I'd need 2cc/ml of water in the dry vial to be reconstituted, correct?

Originally Posted by njc

2cc=200iu's

2mg's=2000mcg's

2000mcg's/200iu's=10mcg's per iu

So if you wanted 100mcg's you would draw to the 10 mark

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You can put in as much as youd like really, it just depends on how you want your doses to measure out on your syringe.

The example I used involved using 2cc's of water for the whole 2mg vial.

That's what I'm going to use.
Thanks

Originally Posted by njc

You can put in as much as youd like really, it just depends on how you want your doses to measure out on your syringe.

The example I used involved using 2cc's of water for the whole 2mg vial.

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And as you stated the above 2cc would still go to 10 on the slin pin?

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1cc slin pins usually measure by 100iu's. The entire insulin pin equals 1cc. So on a 1cc insulin pin their are 100 markers, each denoting 1 iu. So 100iu's in each 1cc slin pin.

If you throw in 2cc's then that is 200iu's worth.

So you have 200iu's of total solution with 2000mcg's of grf-1 in it. This has to mean that 2000mcgs/200iu means that for each iu on your slin pin after you draw you will have 10mcg's. So if you draw 10iu's out, you will have 100mcg's of grf-1 in your syringe.

If you were to use 3cc's to reconstitute then you would have 300ius, meaning that for each iu 2000/300 you would have 6.6 mcg' for each iu that you draw out and so on and so forth

Fucking head hurts from all these numbers lol

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Dont make it too hard

Just remember 2000mcgs of powder in each, that never changes. So you take that number and divide it by however many iu's you use to reconstitute, and thats how many mcgs you will have per iu

Originally Posted by njc

Dont make it too hard

Just remember 2000mcgs of powder in each, that never changes. So you take that number and divide it by however many iu's you use to reconstitute, and thats how many mcgs you will have per iu

^^^ What he said.

Sorry about the thread hijack cracker lol

Originally Posted by njc

Sorry about the thread hijack cracker lol

Same here. I just figured there's a lot of confusion on the boards.

Onward.

Originally Posted by njc

Sorry about the thread hijack cracker lol

If someone is reading my log, more than likely they have questions about peptides. The more information contained in a single thread, the better. Peps can be very confusing at first!

Great log

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