Transdermal Recipe

**dg806** · 08-10-2004, 09:17 AM

40% ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL( ISO )
15% ISOPROPYL MYRISTRATE( IPM )
15% ISOPROPYL PALMITATE( IPP )
10% OLEIC ACID( OA )
10% PROPYLENE GLYCOL( PG )
10% DMSO
The 15% IPM and 15% IPP can be combined and just use 30% IPM...

ISO is used as a solvent. It will help disolve the ph into the solution. It also has some penetration properties.

IPP is used to lubricate the skin it softens it up so the skin can be penetrated easily by the ph(dries quicker and is not as oily feeling as the IPM).

IPM is used for the same reason as the IPP.

OA this is a powerful penetration enhancer. It works with the lipids in the skin to let the ph go through.

PG this stuff is oily. What it does is keeps the moisture from leaving the skin. The more moisture the easier it is for ther ph to penetrate. NO you can't just use water....

DMSO It is A powerful penetration enhancer. This addition puts us over the top. This is a must in the solution. If you have sensitive skin this may irritate it. If it irritates too much go to 5% and add 5% to ISO.
Other factors that help penetration....
1. Rub the ph on vigorously.. RUB HARD
2. Keep the solution mg/ml low .The less ph in the more surface area the better penetration.
3. Try to wait until dry to put clothing on. Hoefully for you it is only 5 mins max
4. If you can remove hair where ph isa being applied. The ph can attach to the hair and thus not go into your skin. SHAVE IT OFF...

I know this is going to be asked so here is the amount of ml............
40% ISO is 96ml

15% IPP is 36ml

15% IPM is 36ml

10% OA is 24ml

10% PG is 24ml

10% DMSO is 24ml

You put them all in the bottle add you PH's and whalla you have an awsome homebrew... I recommend you get your supplies from http://www.lemelange.com/ in the bodybuiling section.

This will give you a solution very similar to the old Avant transdermal. Some guys like a gel like BDC put out. If you prefer a gel, buy some carbomer 934, and Add triethanolamine drop-wise until gel is attained.

It is best to buy a large glass beaker to do your mixing in so you can heat it gently. This will aid the PH powder into solution alot easier!

Thanks to AnabolicMinds.com for the research and time input for the recipe!

GYM GURU · 09-09-2004, 10:42 PM

What does this stuff do. Is it a transdermal andro or something like that ! Hola back !
How do chemists make synthetic growth hormone !

**Pirate!** · 09-09-2004, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GYM GURU

What does this stuff do. Is it a transdermal andro or something like that ! Hola back !
How do chemists make synthetic growth hormone !

Only on IM.

DOMS · 11-19-2004, 03:35 PM

What? Do you mean it only works on IM forums? Should I shoot up only in front of my monitor while using the derm recipe?

Thanks!!!111!

**dg806** · 11-19-2004, 03:48 PM

Only sarcasm!

G-man · 11-22-2004, 06:16 PM

I notice my bottle of 4-derm has d-limone and no DMSO in it, are they interchangeable? Ive read that d-limone is just a solvent.
Are there any other transdermal recipes out there, or has anyone experimented with any variations to this trandermal recipe?

**dg806** · 11-24-2004, 01:20 PM

d-Limonene is the major component of the oil extracted from citrus rind. When citrus fruits are juiced, the oil is pressed out of the rind. This oil is separated from the juice, and distilled to recover certain flavor and fragrance compounds.
It is used in Trandermals for fragrence and as a solvent. Just add DMSO to the formula for better results. I think this formula has been tested to be near perfect. Only other option is DMFA instead of DMSO.

TheRoyalOne · 02-11-2005, 03:26 PM

Out of curiosity and the chance of saving lots of $$$ would a waterless hand cleaner work? It has all of the ingredients listed above except the IPP, OA and DSMO.
The full ingredient list as it's listed on their web site:

Active Ingredient: Ethyl Alcohol 63%.

Also Contains: Water, Isopropyl Alcohol, Carbomer, Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E), Glycerin, Popylene Glycol, Isopropyl Myristate, Fragrance

GYM GURU · 06-14-2005, 08:14 PM

is there an easier way to make this stuff and where can you get all this stuff.

**dg806** · 06-15-2005, 09:30 AM

It's posted in the first post.

08-10-2004, 09:17 AM	#1
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,270	Transdermal Recipe 40% ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL( ISO ) 15% ISOPROPYL MYRISTRATE( IPM ) 15% ISOPROPYL PALMITATE( IPP ) 10% OLEIC ACID( OA ) 10% PROPYLENE GLYCOL( PG ) 10% DMSO The 15% IPM and 15% IPP can be combined and just use 30% IPM... ISO is used as a solvent. It will help disolve the ph into the solution. It also has some penetration properties. IPP is used to lubricate the skin it softens it up so the skin can be penetrated easily by the ph(dries quicker and is not as oily feeling as the IPM). IPM is used for the same reason as the IPP. OA this is a powerful penetration enhancer. It works with the lipids in the skin to let the ph go through. PG this stuff is oily. What it does is keeps the moisture from leaving the skin. The more moisture the easier it is for ther ph to penetrate. NO you can't just use water.... DMSO It is A powerful penetration enhancer. This addition puts us over the top. This is a must in the solution. If you have sensitive skin this may irritate it. If it irritates too much go to 5% and add 5% to ISO. Other factors that help penetration.... 1. Rub the ph on vigorously.. RUB HARD 2. Keep the solution mg/ml low .The less ph in the more surface area the better penetration. 3. Try to wait until dry to put clothing on. Hoefully for you it is only 5 mins max 4. If you can remove hair where ph isa being applied. The ph can attach to the hair and thus not go into your skin. SHAVE IT OFF... I know this is going to be asked so here is the amount of ml............ 40% ISO is 96ml 15% IPP is 36ml 15% IPM is 36ml 10% OA is 24ml 10% PG is 24ml 10% DMSO is 24ml You put them all in the bottle add you PH's and whalla you have an awsome homebrew... I recommend you get your supplies from http://www.lemelange.com/ in the bodybuiling section. This will give you a solution very similar to the old Avant transdermal. Some guys like a gel like BDC put out. If you prefer a gel, buy some carbomer 934, and Add triethanolamine drop-wise until gel is attained. It is best to buy a large glass beaker to do your mixing in so you can heat it gently. This will aid the PH powder into solution alot easier! Thanks to AnabolicMinds.com for the research and time input for the recipe!
	www.sbmuscle.com

09-09-2004, 10:42 PM	#2
GYM GURU Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Agg town aka Arlington, Tx. Posts: 205	What does this stuff do. Is it a transdermal andro or something like that ! Hola back ! How do chemists make synthetic growth hormone !
	Never say never & never give up. There is ALWAYS someone worse off than you !

11-19-2004, 03:35 PM	#4
DOMS Metrosexual Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In a van, down by the river... Posts: 21,511 Photos: 5	What? Do you mean it only works on IM forums? Should I shoot up only in front of my monitor while using the derm recipe? Thanks!!!111!
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11-19-2004, 03:48 PM	#5
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,270	Only sarcasm!
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11-24-2004, 01:20 PM	#7
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,270	d-Limonene is the major component of the oil extracted from citrus rind. When citrus fruits are juiced, the oil is pressed out of the rind. This oil is separated from the juice, and distilled to recover certain flavor and fragrance compounds. It is used in Trandermals for fragrence and as a solvent. Just add DMSO to the formula for better results. I think this formula has been tested to be near perfect. Only other option is DMFA instead of DMSO. Last edited by dg806 : 12-17-2004 at 05:11 PM.
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11-22-2004, 06:16 PM	#6
G-man Rehabing to the Max Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 100	I notice my bottle of 4-derm has d-limone and no DMSO in it, are they interchangeable? Ive read that d-limone is just a solvent. Are there any other transdermal recipes out there, or has anyone experimented with any variations to this trandermal recipe?

02-11-2005, 03:26 PM	#8
TheRoyalOne Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: So.Cal. Posts: 321	Out of curiosity and the chance of saving lots of $$$ would a waterless hand cleaner work? It has all of the ingredients listed above except the IPP, OA and DSMO. The full ingredient list as it's listed on their web site: Active Ingredient: Ethyl Alcohol 63%. Also Contains: Water, Isopropyl Alcohol, Carbomer, Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E), Glycerin, Popylene Glycol, Isopropyl Myristate, Fragrance
	"Know your limits... but never stop trying to exceed them." --Anon.

06-14-2005, 08:14 PM	#9
GYM GURU Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Agg town aka Arlington, Tx. Posts: 205	is there an easier way to make this stuff and where can you get all this stuff.
	Never say never & never give up. There is ALWAYS someone worse off than you !

06-15-2005, 09:30 AM	#10
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,270	It's posted in the first post.
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