Cutting & Capping

**Pirate!** · 08-11-2004, 08:45 AM

Can anyone give me some solid advice on how to properly cut a potent powder. For example, if I have 100 mg of pure powdered T3 and want to have 25 mcg caps, is it possible to mix it well enough with some cut to dose accurately? Or if I have 500 mg finasteride and want 1 mg caps?

**dg806** · 08-11-2004, 09:36 AM

If you can acturately measure the amount you want, all you need to do is find you a filler of some kind you like. 1fast sells many types of powder that can be mixed as a filler.

**Mudge** · 08-11-2004, 10:47 AM

Corn starch is popular, but you'll need a scale.

**dg806** · 08-11-2004, 10:55 AM

I would use Alcar.

Monolith · 08-11-2004, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dg806

I would use Alcar.

Ive heard its really hard to cap that stuff (although ive never tried). The consistency of the powder makes me think itd be a lil hard to evenly mix, too.

Have you capped it before? How was it?

**Pirate!** · 08-11-2004, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg806

If you can acturately measure the amount you want, all you need to do is find you a filler of some kind you like. 1fast sells many types of powder that can be mixed as a filler.

I will probably use dextrose since it is so fine and I have a bunch. I think I can pull it off with the Finasteride, but the T3 @ 25 mcg sounds tough, and I don't want to accidently miss dose T3.

PreMier · 08-11-2004, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by me (coldstone) over at Musclesci.com...thought you guys might like it?

Capping is very easy...first you need to get a capping machine...Mr T has one that is very nice...just do a search for caps...i get 1000 for like 9.99 or something like that...00 size is the way to go also

step 1- figure out what your gonna use for a filler...i like corn meal, and protein powder personally...but you can use things like corn starch, creatine, glutamine and stuff like that...

step 2- fill the bottom of a 0 or OO cap with filler and then dump it out on a scale to see how much each cap holds...ie. a 00 cap holds .39 grams of protein.

step 3- math...say your useing Mr. T's capper that holds 50 caps...multiply .39 times 50 and you get 19.5 grams.

step 4- say were making nolva @ 10mg caps...so 50 caps times 10mg = 500mg...or .5 grams.

step 5- subtract your powder weight (.5g's) out of your filler weight (19.5g's) and you get 19 grams of filler, and .5 grams of powder...that mix will make you 50 caps @ 10mg.

step 6- mixing...mix the powder and filler real good in a ziplock baggie for 5-10 minutes...then heres my personal trick...get a flour, or powdered sugar sifter at wally world and sift the powder into a dish of some sort...

step 7- fill your capper with the bottoms of the empty caps...then pour your powder over the top of them.

step 8- work the powder into the caps with the plastic "credit card thingy"...and tamper the caps full untill all of the pwder is inside the caps...

step 9- put the top half of the caps on, and BAM! you have 50 Nolva caps @10mg per cap.

This applies to all gear...say you want 50 winny caps @ 25mg pre cap...same thing- (.39 x's 50= 19.5) and thats your filler weight. (25 x's 50= 1250mg, or 1.25 grams) thats your powder weight. Subtract 1.25 from 19.5= 18.25...so you need 18.25 grams of protein powder and 1.25 grams fo winny powder...mix, cap and BAM!...50 winny caps @ 25mg each.

And there ya have it...once again a very easy way to make orals...have fun!

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**Pirate!** · 08-11-2004, 11:36 PM

I know how to do the math and use the machine, but I have never dealt with doses as small as mcgs. I'm not going to risk it with the t3. Thanks everyone!

**dg806** · 08-12-2004, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Monolith

Ive heard its really hard to cap that stuff (although ive never tried). The consistency of the powder makes me think itd be a lil hard to evenly mix, too.

Have you capped it before? How was it?

No I haven't tried it. As long as you have the amount of actual active you want, just put filler on top. It doesn't have to be mixed in the capsule.

**Pirate!** · 08-12-2004, 07:40 AM

It doesn't have to mix in the capsule, but if you are dealing with potent stuff, it might not be easy to get it evenly dispursed throughout all the caps in the machine. It seems necessary to mix first.

**dg806** · 08-12-2004, 07:54 AM

You will have the same problem with the active. That is why you have different size caps. You will have to go by eye in the amount in the cap for the active. Unless you weigh each individual cap, which would be a pain. That is why when dealing with very small amounts it is easier and better to make an oral solution.

Monolith · 08-12-2004, 10:11 AM

Yeah... trying to cap 25mcg of T3 without mixing it with a known amount of filler or fluid would be playing with fire... literally. :/

Ive tried to find some good .001mg scales online but theyre all uber expensive.

**Pirate!** · 08-12-2004, 01:23 PM

Thank you Monolith and dg806

**Pirate!** · 08-17-2004, 02:22 PM

I recommend "The Capsule Machine" that universalkits.com sells.

Monolith · 08-17-2004, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I recommend "The Capsule Machine" that universalkits.com sells.

have you tried it? howd it work?

**Pirate!** · 08-17-2004, 07:36 PM

Works great. It isn't much different than the model I can buy locally from Whole Foods, but it has a mechanism by which it ejects the capsules out (as opposed to having to pull them out). I used to have a machine that did 50 caps at once, and I thought that that is what this one did. Unfortunately, it does 24 caps at a time. It doesn't take much longer to do two batches of 24 than if you did 50 at once since most of the time you spend is opening up the capsules and putting them in place, anyway. Shipping shouldn't have been $10, though. It is pretty light-weight. I also bought 500 vegetable caps, size "00". I like them better than gelatin.

08-11-2004, 09:36 AM	#2
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08-11-2004, 10:55 AM	#4
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 16,597	I would use Alcar.
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08-12-2004, 07:54 AM	#11
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 16,597	You will have the same problem with the active. That is why you have different size caps. You will have to go by eye in the amount in the cap for the active. Unless you weigh each individual cap, which would be a pain. That is why when dealing with very small amounts it is easier and better to make an oral solution.
	"So as we set out this year to defeat the divisive forces that would take our freedom away, I want to say those words again for everyone within the sound of my voice to hear and to heed, and especially for you, Mr. Gore. From my cold dead hands!" "I now begin the journey that will lead me into the sunset of my life. I know that for America there will always be a bright dawn ahead." Nov. 5, 1994 - Ronald Reagan

08-12-2004, 10:11 AM	#12
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Yeah... trying to cap 25mcg of T3 without mixing it with a known amount of filler or fluid would be playing with fire... literally. :/ Ive tried to find some good .001mg scales online but theyre all uber expensive.
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