Nolva Powder Conversion Made Simple

**Pirate!** · 12-30-2004, 11:09 PM

It is very easy to convert raw tamoxifen citrate (nolva) powder into an oral solution. The following is for one gram, but the process can be done for any amount by simply using 49 mL of alcohol for every gram of powder.

Just use everclear or bacardi 151.
-Add 1g of powder to vial
-next add 49mL of everclear
-Shake a little.
-Then Boil water on stove then take it off the burner and sit bottle of solution in there and shake every 3-4minutes.
-After about 15 or so minutes it will be completely dissolved
-Now you have 50mL of nolva @ 20mg/mL

Now go buy some zit cream!

Luke9583 · 01-03-2005, 07:39 PM

Thanks

**Pirate!** · 01-05-2005, 07:30 PM

To convert 15 grams of Tamoxifen Citrate into an oral solution:

1) Boil a big pot of water.
2) Take 15 mL out of a new 750 mL Everclear bottle and discard the 15 mL.
3) Add 15 grams of Tamoxifen Citrate Powder and close the lid tight.
4) Take the pot of water off the stove.
5) Shake the hell out of the Everclear bottle and place upright in the pot of water.
6) Let stand for 10 minutes.
7) Remove Everclear bottle and shake every 3 minutes, placing back in the pot of hot water between shakes. Do this three times.
8) If it isn't completely dissolved, reboil the water and start back at step #5.

Now you have 750mL of nolva @ 20mg/mL

Some people add Crystal Light for flavor, but I don't know if this will effect long-term storage.

**Remember that everclear is very flammable. A few drops on the stove can get ugly real fast.

Luke9583 · 01-06-2005, 08:00 PM

Everclear is illegal to sell in Michigan

Du · 01-06-2005, 08:17 PM

Pirate is the man.

cappo5150 · 01-06-2005, 08:25 PM

Is everclear easy to get? There isn't any backwoods boys here in L.A. that I know of.

**Pirate!** · 01-06-2005, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke9583

Everclear is illegal to sell in Michigan

Barcardi 151 works, but stronger proof is ideal. Everclear is 180 proof. Some states have laws that alcohol that strong can only be sold to bars. Some bars have "Diesel" which is about 190 proof.

I've heard of people using vodka (90 proof) and having it work well.

Du · 01-06-2005, 08:59 PM

We've got grain alcohol here in CT.

**Pirate!** · 01-06-2005, 09:02 PM

Moonshine will work. Just don't go blind.

**Pirate!** · 01-07-2005, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cappo5150

Is everclear easy to get? There isn't any backwoods boys here in L.A. that I know of.

You can get ANYTHING in L.A.

Luke9583 · 01-07-2005, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Some bars have "Diesel" which is about 190 proof.

I've heard of people using vodka (90 proof) and having it work well.

I've had GemClear, which is 190. I think it came from indiana though. 151 is as potent as it gets in michigan.

**Pirate!** · 01-07-2005, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke9583

I've had GemClear, which is 190. I think it came from indiana though. 151 is as potent as it gets in michigan.

I think Isopropyl gets up to 182 proof, but I don't know how much of that stuff you want to drink.

Du · 01-07-2005, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I think Isopropyl gets up to 182 proof, but I don't know how much of that stuff you want to drink.

I dont think isopropyl has a proof. Drinkable alcohol, (alcohol as we know it), is ethanol, which is a different substance than isopropyl alcohol.

If Im not mistaken, isopropyl alcohol is a strong poison.

**Pirate!** · 01-07-2005, 12:37 PM

I wasn't seriously suggesting he use isopropyl alcohol, but you can buy it at 91%. Luke is just being difficult. How hard is it find a bottle of liquor in Michigan? I just hope Luke dosen't try to mix it in a tall boy of Busch.

Du · 01-07-2005, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I just hope Luke dosen't try to mix it in a tall boy of Busch.

I hear Natty Light works better.

Luke9583 · 01-07-2005, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I wasn't seriously suggesting he use isopropyl alcohol, but you can buy it at 91%. Luke is just being difficult. How hard is it find a bottle of liquor in Michigan? I just hope Luke dosen't try to mix it in a tall boy of Busch.

No, i got a pint of 151.

Luke9583 · 01-07-2005, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by du510

I hear Natty Light works better.

Yuck. I don't drink that water dude

I'm a guiness/ new castle kind'a dude.

**Pirate!** · 01-07-2005, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke9583

No, i got a pint of 151.

Now, try not to drink it before using it for the nolva.

BTW, 1 pint = 473.1765 mL.

Du · 01-07-2005, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Now, try not to drink it before using it for the nolva.

then drop the powder in your mouth and swish before swallowing

Luke9583 · 01-07-2005, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Now, try not to drink it before using it for the nolva.

BTW, 1 pint = 473.1765 mL.

I drank the rest on new years

**Pirate!** · 01-07-2005, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke9583

I drank the rest on new years

You would have been

on New Years Day then.

Luke9583 · 01-09-2005, 06:26 PM

Pirate, the powder pretty much dissolved on it's own in the 151

I still boiled/shook for a good 30 minutes though.

**Pirate!** · 01-10-2005, 01:19 PM

It disolves real easy, but it could crash (seperate) if you don't go through the heating process. Nolva is one of these easiest research chems to keep in solution. You might notice that it doesn't taste as bad as the nolva you bought already in solution. That is because it can't be sold in 151 or everclear for legal reasons, so they use solvents that would gag a maggot.

Luke9583 · 01-10-2005, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

It disolves real easy, but it could crash (seperate) if you don't go through the heating process. Nolva is one of these easiest research chems to keep in solution. You might notice that it doesn't taste as bad as the nolva you bought already in solution. That is because it can't be sold in 151 or everclear for legal reasons, so they use solvents that would gag a maggot.

I disagree.

This stuff is awful.

What was it suspended in before? Benzyl alcohol?

**Pirate!** · 01-10-2005, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke9583

This stuff is awful.

I'm not sure what different vendors use, but it isn't liquor. I guess strong rum is an acquired taste. Some people add crystal light for flavor. Pretend it is a jello shot.

**Pirate!** · 02-05-2005, 01:35 PM

I found a great place to legally buy pure tamoxifen citrate powder for real cheap.

clhelget · 02-27-2005, 03:48 PM

OK.... so I have made one batch of Tamoxifen Citrate with Bacardi 151 and it turned out clear as water... Meaning it seemed to have dissolved perfectly. But, That stuff tasted like SHIT, so my next batch the other day I used Vodka (Sky Brand) and the stuff now looks like milk in the bottle. There are particles floating around in there and it just looks funky. Is this still going to be effective for me to take, or do I need to throw it away and go back to the 151?? I heated the stuff properly for 20+ minutes starting in boiling water and turned off the heat.

What happened? It seperated? Will this stuff still work for me?

Du · 02-27-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by clhelget

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Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 5,644	Nolva Powder Conversion Made Simple BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com It is very easy to convert raw tamoxifen citrate (nolva) powder into an oral solution. The following is for one gram, but the process can be done for any amount by simply using 49 mL of alcohol for every gram of powder. Just use everclear or bacardi 151. -Add 1g of powder to vial -next add 49mL of everclear -Shake a little. -Then Boil water on stove then take it off the burner and sit bottle of solution in there and shake every 3-4minutes. -After about 15 or so minutes it will be completely dissolved -Now you have 50mL of nolva @ 20mg/mL Now go buy some zit cream!

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01-05-2005, 07:30 PM	#3
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 5,644	Convert a Lifetime Supply in 30 min. To convert 15 grams of Tamoxifen Citrate into an oral solution: 1) Boil a big pot of water. 2) Take 15 mL out of a new 750 mL Everclear bottle and discard the 15 mL. 3) Add 15 grams of Tamoxifen Citrate Powder and close the lid tight. 4) Take the pot of water off the stove. 5) Shake the hell out of the Everclear bottle and place upright in the pot of water. 6) Let stand for 10 minutes. 7) Remove Everclear bottle and shake every 3 minutes, placing back in the pot of hot water between shakes. Do this three times. 8) If it isn't completely dissolved, reboil the water and start back at step #5. Now you have 750mL of nolva @ 20mg/mL Some people add Crystal Light for flavor, but I don't know if this will effect long-term storage. **Remember that everclear is very flammable. A few drops on the stove can get ugly real fast.

01-06-2005, 08:00 PM	#4
Luke9583 Lucky Luke Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: idaho Posts: 5,390 Photos: 9	Everclear is illegal to sell in Michigan
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cappo5150 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 2,318 Photos: 1	Is everclear easy to get? There isn't any backwoods boys here in L.A. that I know of.

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Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 5,644	Moonshine will work. Just don't go blind.

01-07-2005, 12:37 PM	#14
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 5,644	I wasn't seriously suggesting he use isopropyl alcohol, but you can buy it at 91%. Luke is just being difficult. How hard is it find a bottle of liquor in Michigan? I just hope Luke dosen't try to mix it in a tall boy of Busch.

01-09-2005, 06:26 PM	#22
Luke9583 Lucky Luke Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: idaho Posts: 5,390 Photos: 9	Pirate, the powder pretty much dissolved on it's own in the 151 I still boiled/shook for a good 30 minutes though.
	New goal for 2005, 190lbs @ 7% bf "She Blew my nose, and then she blew my mind"

01-10-2005, 01:19 PM	#23
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 5,644	It disolves real easy, but it could crash (seperate) if you don't go through the heating process. Nolva is one of these easiest research chems to keep in solution. You might notice that it doesn't taste as bad as the nolva you bought already in solution. That is because it can't be sold in 151 or everclear for legal reasons, so they use solvents that would gag a maggot.

02-27-2005, 03:48 PM	#27
clhelget Under Construction Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 45 Photos: 5	Problem, Help please! OK.... so I have made one batch of Tamoxifen Citrate with Bacardi 151 and it turned out clear as water... Meaning it seemed to have dissolved perfectly. But, That stuff tasted like SHIT, so my next batch the other day I used Vodka (Sky Brand) and the stuff now looks like milk in the bottle. There are particles floating around in there and it just looks funky. Is this still going to be effective for me to take, or do I need to throw it away and go back to the 151?? I heated the stuff properly for 20+ minutes starting in boiling water and turned off the heat. What happened? It seperated? Will this stuff still work for me?