Fina Conversion Process

Phred · 02-26-2005, 10:09 AM

I am tying an experiment to create a transdermal fina. I understand the process of breaking down the pellets in Heet, filter and stripping the ester with lye, flushing, etc. However, I am at a loss as to the quantities of lye solution to strip off the esters.

If I use 6 oz of Heet for 2 carts of Fina, what will I need in terms of a solution of lye (consentration and amount)?

I have also read that stripping off the ester is not needed, in which case I will just disolve in Heet, filter and dry.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

**Pirate!** · 02-26-2005, 04:51 PM

I don't think you find the answer in the supplement forum.

**dg806** · 02-27-2005, 03:58 PM

Yo have fina and test confused.

Phred · 02-28-2005, 01:08 PM

I thought I had (or maybe it is better say "should") cleave the ester from the Fina. I would be using pellets (Finaplix-H). So the Heet (MA) is to breakdown and seperate the binders. My understanding is the ester is still in the solution and the lye would cleave the ester (the fina would crystalize out of the solution).

I have also read once dissolved in the MA, you can filter and just let the MA evaporate. Then add the remaining dried powder to a transdermal solution.

**dg806** · 03-01-2005, 02:22 PM

Fina comes out as an acetate.

**dg806** · 03-01-2005, 02:28 PM

You can get Fina enanthate, but it is made from powder, not pellets.

Phred · 03-01-2005, 03:32 PM

OK. I understand it better now. I was looking at a lot of different sources and some were using powders in lieu of pellets and I was confusing the process for each as being the same or similar. Thx.

02-26-2005, 10:09 AM	#1
Phred On a journey....... Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Back in Sacramento, CA again Posts: 672 Photos: 4	Fina Conversion Process BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com I am tying an experiment to create a transdermal fina. I understand the process of breaking down the pellets in Heet, filter and stripping the ester with lye, flushing, etc. However, I am at a loss as to the quantities of lye solution to strip off the esters. If I use 6 oz of Heet for 2 carts of Fina, what will I need in terms of a solution of lye (consentration and amount)? I have also read that stripping off the ester is not needed, in which case I will just disolve in Heet, filter and dry. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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02-27-2005, 03:58 PM	#3
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 16,597	Yo have fina and test confused.
	"So as we set out this year to defeat the divisive forces that would take our freedom away, I want to say those words again for everyone within the sound of my voice to hear and to heed, and especially for you, Mr. Gore. From my cold dead hands!" "I now begin the journey that will lead me into the sunset of my life. I know that for America there will always be a bright dawn ahead." Nov. 5, 1994 - Ronald Reagan

02-28-2005, 01:08 PM	#4
Phred On a journey....... Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Back in Sacramento, CA again Posts: 672 Photos: 4	I thought I had (or maybe it is better say "should") cleave the ester from the Fina. I would be using pellets (Finaplix-H). So the Heet (MA) is to breakdown and seperate the binders. My understanding is the ester is still in the solution and the lye would cleave the ester (the fina would crystalize out of the solution). I have also read once dissolved in the MA, you can filter and just let the MA evaporate. Then add the remaining dried powder to a transdermal solution.
	If you always have a great day, you will always have a great life. "The gym offers force and pain and relief. It provides challenge and struggle and satisfaction." Dave Draper

03-01-2005, 02:22 PM	#5
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 16,597	Fina comes out as an acetate.
	"So as we set out this year to defeat the divisive forces that would take our freedom away, I want to say those words again for everyone within the sound of my voice to hear and to heed, and especially for you, Mr. Gore. From my cold dead hands!" "I now begin the journey that will lead me into the sunset of my life. I know that for America there will always be a bright dawn ahead." Nov. 5, 1994 - Ronald Reagan

03-01-2005, 02:28 PM	#6
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 16,597	You can get Fina enanthate, but it is made from powder, not pellets.
	"So as we set out this year to defeat the divisive forces that would take our freedom away, I want to say those words again for everyone within the sound of my voice to hear and to heed, and especially for you, Mr. Gore. From my cold dead hands!" "I now begin the journey that will lead me into the sunset of my life. I know that for America there will always be a bright dawn ahead." Nov. 5, 1994 - Ronald Reagan

02-26-2005, 04:51 PM	#2
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 5,645	I don't think you find the answer in the supplement forum.

03-01-2005, 03:32 PM	#7
Phred On a journey....... Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Back in Sacramento, CA again Posts: 672 Photos: 4	OK. I understand it better now. I was looking at a lot of different sources and some were using powders in lieu of pellets and I was confusing the process for each as being the same or similar. Thx.
	If you always have a great day, you will always have a great life. "The gym offers force and pain and relief. It provides challenge and struggle and satisfaction." Dave Draper

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