Ploysorbate

The big guy · 10-17-2005, 12:41 AM

how about putting more poly instead of bb, to suspend powder and to emulsify, just up the percent of poly, I found the poly does a good job of it.

gococksDJS · 10-17-2005, 05:28 PM

For all solutions? If your solution is a hydrophobic molecule (testosterone) suspended in oil, why use an emulsifier?

**Mudge** · 10-17-2005, 09:14 PM

I think his primary concern is test suspension right now, which I've never concocted (prop is the shortest I've ever done).

BCC · 10-18-2005, 09:54 AM

I wouldn't recommend doing that. It may work for a little, but it will crash again.

What you needed to do when you made it was put the powder in one beaker with the BB and PS80 and heat it up to liquid. Then you needed to use a dropper and drop that solution into your distilled water 1ml at a time. After each ml you drop you have to cap off your vial and shake it. It's a long process (especially if you're doing a lot) but it will hold correctly.

The big guy · 10-18-2005, 11:20 PM

Yea it keeps crashing,but when I give it a good shake it gets milky and the shots hurt, no swelling, no redness just sore as a m'fer. Yea it was suspension, a real pain in the ass, will most likely use oil next time.

The big guy · 10-18-2005, 11:21 PM

It is most likely crashing after the shot and that is the reason for the pain.

**Mudge** · 10-19-2005, 12:30 AM

Was it micronized? If not, then most likely its going to hurt no matter what.

The big guy · 10-19-2005, 10:37 PM

How can you tell if it was micronized? It was powder fluffy...

**Mudge** · 10-20-2005, 12:10 AM

The source would brab about it being micronized because it would be less painfull to shoot and should suspend easier.

The big guy · 10-20-2005, 07:27 AM

Well I don't think it was because the shot get sore, like I said no redness there not hot just a little swollwn and sore sore sore........ And if is not micronized can you make it micronized yourself..

RM2 · 08-24-2007, 02:04 AM

Do you ever use PBS instead of BA as a buffer?

10-17-2005, 12:41 AM	#1
The big guy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Marina del Rey, Ca. Posts: 182	Ploysorbate how about putting more poly instead of bb, to suspend powder and to emulsify, just up the percent of poly, I found the poly does a good job of it.

10-17-2005, 09:14 PM	#3
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,470 Photos: 1	I think his primary concern is test suspension right now, which I've never concocted (prop is the shortest I've ever done). Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

10-19-2005, 12:30 AM	#7
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,470 Photos: 1	Was it micronized? If not, then most likely its going to hurt no matter what. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

10-20-2005, 12:10 AM	#9
Mudge Dieting I swear! Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Here Posts: 23,470 Photos: 1	The source would brab about it being micronized because it would be less painfull to shoot and should suspend easier. Kinesiology Comp Bench MaxCalc Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu

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10-17-2005, 05:28 PM	#2
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,000	For all solutions? If your solution is a hydrophobic molecule (testosterone) suspended in oil, why use an emulsifier?

10-18-2005, 09:54 AM	#4
BCC Newcomer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 184	I wouldn't recommend doing that. It may work for a little, but it will crash again. What you needed to do when you made it was put the powder in one beaker with the BB and PS80 and heat it up to liquid. Then you needed to use a dropper and drop that solution into your distilled water 1ml at a time. After each ml you drop you have to cap off your vial and shake it. It's a long process (especially if you're doing a lot) but it will hold correctly.

10-18-2005, 11:20 PM	#5
The big guy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Marina del Rey, Ca. Posts: 182	Yea it keeps crashing,but when I give it a good shake it gets milky and the shots hurt, no swelling, no redness just sore as a m'fer. Yea it was suspension, a real pain in the ass, will most likely use oil next time.

10-18-2005, 11:21 PM	#6
The big guy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Marina del Rey, Ca. Posts: 182	It is most likely crashing after the shot and that is the reason for the pain.

10-19-2005, 10:37 PM	#8
The big guy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Marina del Rey, Ca. Posts: 182	How can you tell if it was micronized? It was powder fluffy...

10-20-2005, 07:27 AM	#10
The big guy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Marina del Rey, Ca. Posts: 182	Well I don't think it was because the shot get sore, like I said no redness there not hot just a little swollwn and sore sore sore........ And if is not micronized can you make it micronized yourself..

08-24-2007, 02:04 AM	#11
RM2 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: florida Posts: 2	Do you ever use PBS instead of BA as a buffer?