Thread: Is oral sex dangerous as to HIV?

The chance of a male getting HIV from a female is lower than a female getting it from a male.......BUT WHY TAKE THE CHANCE!?!

b/c I like oral sex, thats why

It is possible but it is much more likely for the woman to get it, than the man. Any fluid exchange period, is a risk - no question.

I really would not want to be on my death bed in 10 years suffering because of a stupid blow job.

It is not very likely that you will die from an STD, possibly if you have syphilis and you don't ever get tested until the disease progresses for a long time. With early detection, many of the disease are very treatable.

Originally posted by gr81
b/c I like oral sex, thats why

You like enough to have a girl with HIV suck you off?

If you are really concerned, ask a doctor - but I do not believe there is enough of the virus present in saliva to be transmitted.

Supposedly you'd have to drink gallons of it, but I'd rather not risk it.

Originally posted by Fade
You like enough to have a girl with HIV suck you off?

No, there is no way to know really what she has though, so are you supposed to never get with a girl?? I would rather have her give me head then penetrate her, the chances are pretty low. You are right though, it is a fucked up situation that we have going on. It is so bad that you can't really get with anyone until you get tested with them and have her sign a waiver form, god damn.

Originally posted by gr81
No, there is no way to know really what she has though, so are you supposed to never get with a girl??

Abstinence or having a girlfriend that you know is safe is a pretty good idea IMO. Of course it may not be cool but I really give a flying fuck what others think of my "boring" choices in life. Casual sex has never been attractive enough for me to partake in it.

Originally posted by Mudge
Abstinence or having a girlfriend that you know is safe is a pretty good idea IMO. Of course it may not be cool but I really give a flying fuck what others think of my "boring" choices in life. Casual sex has never been attractive enough for me to partake in it.

Even your orhtodox approach is not 100%..

If your steady GF has just one little adventure with some dude who migh be infected with some STD or hepatitis, your "bullet-proof" sex life is gonna be altered...

Nothing is safe...

It happened to very straight and faithful people whose spouse/GF managed to stray away and get teh STD in the house..

As for myself I have been always a player ...condom has to be in place though....

Thus, even your "boring" life wont shelter you from anything...your cahnce are just lower than those who like casual sex...but not 100%...

Originally posted by Vvitto
Even your orhtodox approach is not 100%..

If your steady GF has just one little adventure with some dude who migh be infected with some STD or hepatitis, your "bullet-proof" sex life is gonna be altered...

Nothing is safe...

It happened to very straight and faithful people whose spouse/GF managed to stray away and get teh STD in the house..

As for myself I have been always a player ...condom has to be in place though....

Thus, even your "boring" life wont shelter you from anything...your cahnce are just lower than those who like casual sex...but not 100%...

man, you have issues.

Originally posted by Vvitto
Even your orhtodox approach is not 100%..

If your steady GF has just one little adventure with some dude who migh be infected with some STD or hepatitis, your "bullet-proof" sex life is gonna be altered...

Nothing is safe...

It happened to very straight and faithful people whose spouse/GF managed to stray away and get teh STD in the house..

As for myself I have been always a player ...condom has to be in place though....

Thus, even your "boring" life wont shelter you from anything...your cahnce are just lower than those who like casual sex...but not 100%...

Vvitto - would you go to vegas and place your life on the line on a roll of a 10 sided dice for nine chances to get a endorphin rush for 10 seconds and 1 chance to get killed? Condoms have a 1 in 10 chance of failure!!

Personally I value my life a hell of a lot more than that and frankly you will completely forget the “rush” of that skin deep relationship within about 10 minutes. Wake up and smell the coffee. You start rolling the old dice with a "partner" that likes similar high odds with many other like minded "partners” (some of them hitting both ways) and the chances of you contacting some sort of STD, including AIDS (not to mention possibly pregnancy and life/liability issues) rapidly become geometric and are pretty certain in the long run.

Originally posted by OceanDude
Vvitto - would you go to vegas and place your life on the line on a roll of a 10 sided dice for nine chances to get a endorphin rush for 10 seconds and 1 chance to get killed? Condoms have a 1 in 10 chance of failure!!

Personally I value my life a hell of a lot more than that and frankly you will completely forget the “rush” of that skin deep relationship within about 10 minutes. Wake up and smell the coffee. You start rolling the old dice with a "partner" that likes similar high odds with many other like minded "partners” (some of them hitting both ways) and the chances of you contacting some sort of STD, including AIDS (not to mention possibly pregnancy and life/liability issues) rapidly become geometric and are pretty certain in the long run.

Do you guys got the meaning of my post?

I have stated that even a mogamous relationship is not 100% free of potenttial STD ...you will never know when one of the party decides to go for a change and try out other pussy/dick...

AS far as I am concerned please do not preach me...I know the risks...

To each their own...

Originally posted by MtnBikerChk
man, you have issues.

And you are saying....

One liner reply is so lame...

and I'm an ass.

Personally, I believe your attitude is dangerous and self serving, but to each his own. Just don't come crying for my tax dollars if you get "bit".

Fair enough, eh?

hold on damnit, why is everyone getting down on Vvitto b/c he wants to get pussy. It seems like i have to step in here and be the voice of reason once again. I know people who have thought that their girl was monogomous and they ended up with something b/c of her creepin behind his back and such, nothing is fail safe. Is that what life has come down to, being forced to keep our penis' in our pants at all times. All you can do is use protection and use good judgment. Nothing is 100% unless you stay abstinent all your life. If he is using protection than why does he has issues? having a long relationship with one girl isn't for everybody, or maybe it is later in life.

Originally posted by Vvitto
If your steady GF has just one little adventure with some dude who migh be infected with some STD or hepatitis, your "bullet-proof" sex life is gonna be altered...

Of course nothing is fullproof, but I trust the females I am with, otherwise I would not be with them, and I have not had sexual relations with many at all, less than one hand.

Originally posted by gr81
hold on damnit, why is everyone getting down on Vvitto b/c he wants to get pussy. It seems like i have to step in here and be the voice of reason once again. I know people who have thought that their girl was monogomous and they ended up with something b/c of her creepin behind his back and such, nothing is fail safe. Is that what life has come down to, being forced to keep our penis' in our pants at all times. All you can do is use protection and use good judgment. Nothing is 100% unless you stay abstinent all your life. If he is using protection than why does he has issues? having a long relationship with one girl isn't for everybody, or maybe it is later in life.

Cause they are ignorants and uninformed....

They think that a mongamous life would save their cock/pussy from STD...whereas, folks like me who like "change" are definitely going to end up with HIV..

At least some have some mind of their own and use common sense when they express their thoughts.

The only 100% is being abstinent.....almost..still HIV can be acquired thru other means...

Be my guest and have a monk life...I am mature enough to know the risks as I am in my 30's and have been all over the world ....

Originally posted by Stickboy
Personally, I believe your attitude is dangerous and self serving, but to each his own. Just don't come crying for my tax dollars if you get "bit".

Fair enough, eh?

Did you answer to the original topic?

Or trying to play smart-aleck ?

Feel free to join the ignorant crowd...

Originally posted by Vvitto
They think that a mongamous life would save their cock/pussy from STD...whereas, folks like me who like "change" are definitely going to end up with HIV..

Common sense tells me the chances are much better if I dont play the game. Does that not make sense to you?

Originally posted by Mudge
Common sense tells me the chances are much better if I dont play the game. Does that not make sense to you?

Of course.....But I wont settle for a boring life ....

I know the risks and I try to deal with the elements...

My point was that even a mogamous life has its potentials risks int terms of STD....I have never said that being a player is safer.

I respect your fidelity towards your spouse and I wish you happiness....

Originally posted by Vvitto
Do you guys got the meaning of my post?

I have stated that even a mogamous relationship is not 100% free of potenttial STD ...
...

AS far as I am concerned please do not preach me...I know the risks...

To each their own...

Hoboy. What credibility do you think you have when you immediately start throwing childish insults around and calling people “ignorant” when you apparently can’t do the math? Further, I have never heard anyone ever make an intelligent analogy between “casino odds’ and “preaching”. What an oxymoronic and defensive perspective you have. You obviously want to put your head in the sand on the issue since your attitude is clearly self defeating, irresponsible and dangerous to society at large. You must be incapable of understanding the “math” and the difference in magnitudes between a 10% failure rate with partners of like promiscuous mind and a committed relationship with someone (you should know well and have some influence with) failing the trust. What little contribution you have made to the argument about monogamous relationships not being “fool proof” are completely lost in your failure to acknowledge the difference in magnitude and your tendency of rapid flight to defensive banter; a clear sign of immaturity and poor intellectual capacity.

I’ll tell you what. I won’t “preach” to you if you don’t ask me and the rest of society to put money in your collection basket to pay for STD prevention, disease treatment and burial fees or pollute the gene pool with the left over flotsam and jetsam 60’s attitudes you cling to.

hey OD, It must bew nice to sit up there on yor high horse and look down upon us less worthy human beings huh? it ain't his job to convince you all that his way of life is superior, unlike what you are trying to do. Why should he conform to what you think is right, b/c you think it is right?? fuck that, all he can do is be safe and responsible, anything less than that is stupid, but he doesn't have to conform to some form of monogomy b/c you think it is right. He wants to fuck different girls, there is nothing wrong with that, don't belittle him b/c he doesn't share your views, that is pretty presumptious of you.

Originally posted by gr81
hey OD, It must bew nice to sit up there on yor high horse and look down upon us less worthy human beings huh? it ain't his job to convince you all that his way of life is superior, unlike what you are trying to do. Why should he conform to what you think is right, b/c you think it is right?? fuck that, all he can do is be safe and responsible, anything less than that is stupid, but he doesn't have to conform to some form of monogomy b/c you think it is right. He wants to fuck different girls, there is nothing wrong with that, don't belittle him b/c he doesn't share your views, that is pretty presumptious of you.

Oh “Greatone”, (is this the proper phonetic interpretation of the moniker “gr81”?) know first off that in spite of your titular allusion to grandness it is comically “presumptuous” of you to think that your self asserted greatness compels me to remove you from my ignore list. But since someone brought your ranting to my attention I’ll respond this onetime. You already know the conditions for continued dialog.

Do not attempt to manufacture a class distinction (e.g. “less worthy humans”, “high horse” etc. ) between me and others by your own lack of self respect, feelings of inferiority and self judged inadequacy. Others are quite capable of sullying themselves to that end through their own unassisted capacity for debauchery. Odds are they won’t be around long to bother with.

I presented facts, devoid of any moral imperative (not that none exist), that may not have been previously known for the benefit of a fellow human so that he could better understand the consequences of his elected behavior. He stated an irrational justification and motivation then chose to insultingly reject the facts. I have grown accustomed to such behavior though from those that have closed minds. You now attempt demagoguery and seek to form camaraderie of opinion by advocating a peer basis formed from the presumption of a commonality in shared sullied morals; where morals were not in the original basis for the original discussion – only health and wellness. From your prior posts it does not in the least surprise me that you are highly qualified in speaking as an advocate of those that have an irrational basis for dialog. But again from prior circumstances I don’t think you would be doing them any effective service or favor in so doing. I would caution “Caveat Emptor” to the likes of those you presume to champion (do they have a choice?). But now that you have entered the arena I suddenly find myself as if magic upon my tall steed in the opposite corner. I am thinking you are beginning to influence my thinking. I might rather enjoy the contest in much the same way as you and he enjoy deflowering young women and taking risks. I’ll promise to be swift and clean but I can’t promise it will be as “good for you” as it will be for me. Perhaps we have some commonalty after all - self gratification tends toward one sidedness in the absence of moral restraint.

So, if I sit on a “high horse” or not should be of no concern to you unless you make the gutter your home and get tired of “stuff” flowing down to you. In such a case I’d advise you to find a different home because the roads are public here and getting dumped on is less a question of being “worthy” and more a matter of having the sense to watch where one walks. Most would simply call it stupid behavior. I was willing to give the behavior and the argument the benefit of the doubt.

P.S.
It is patently hypocritical and ironic to make statements like “He wants to fuck different girls, there is nothing wrong with that, don't belittle him b/c he doesn't share your views, that is pretty presumptious (sp)of you.”. After all, if we are all subscribing to the message of your philosophy (e.g. “if I want something just do it”) than I am free to do whatever I want to do. You lack philosophical consistency. In the absence of morality see how easy it is to reverse this faulty philosophy on you with your own words: ‘Simply because you do not share my views do not presume to impart on me your own morality and beliefs about how I should act.’ From your own code of morality I can now freely deduce that it is OK for me to screw with his mind (and yours) simply because it makes me feel good and I because I want to. You can’t rationally make appeals to moralistic reason and consideration to rationalize immoral behavior without sounding insane. Fortunate for you I do have a moral code I operate to and don’t want to catch the “irrationality” STD you seem to be carrying between the fonts here.

Originally posted by OceanDude
Hoboy. What credibility do you think you have when you immediately start throwing childish insults around and calling people “ignorant” when you apparently can’t do the math? Further, I have never heard anyone ever make an intelligent analogy between “casino odds’ and “preaching”. What an oxymoronic and defensive perspective you have. You obviously want to put your head in the sand on the issue since your attitude is clearly self defeating, irresponsible and dangerous to society at large. You must be incapable of understanding the “math” and the difference in magnitudes between a 10% failure rate with partners of like promiscuous mind and a committed relationship with someone (you should know well and have some influence with) failing the trust. What little contribution you have made to the argument about monogamous relationships not being “fool proof” are completely lost in your failure to acknowledge the difference in magnitude and your tendency of rapid flight to defensive banter; a clear sign of immaturity and poor intellectual capacity.

I’ll tell you what. I won’t “preach” to you if you don’t ask me and the rest of society to put money in your collection basket to pay for STD prevention, disease treatment and burial fees or pollute the gene pool with the left over flotsam and jetsam 60’s attitudes you cling to.

I really dont have time for your petty and fiddle-faddle arguments..

Btter hope that your Gf doesnt come to my dick....

What a cocksucker you are mon petit.. ...

Originally posted by Vvitto
I really dont have time for your petty and fiddle-faddle arguments..

Btter hope that your Gf doesnt come to my dick....

What a cocksucker you are mon petit.. ...

Originally posted by Vvitto
I really dont have time for your petty and fiddle-faddle arguments..

Btter hope that your Gf doesnt come to my dick....

What a cocksucker you are mon petit.. ...

Alas, you are on to me. I was counting on tying you up for a bit longer in this discussion and furthering the chance of saving you and possibly others from you r own self destructive behavior.

The balance of the comments are unworthy of a response.

Originally posted by gr81
hey OD, It must bew nice to sit up there on yor high horse and look down upon us less worthy human beings huh?

Its a matter of mathmatical statistics, who is on any kind of horse?

If you go back to the Bible again, most of the laws in there are for "your own good." Same with Koshier foods, not sleeping around, circumcision, blah blah blah. So these things become tradition just because many of them are plain common sense. It is quite obvious the odds are much more in your favor if you dont play the game, it doesn't even have to bring morals into the argument when we have simple mathmatical numbers stating things clearly for us.

We all walk a different path and that is natural, we do as we please and that is "fine."