Nearly 50% of all Men...

John H. · 10-27-2004, 10:06 AM

Nearly 50% of all Men engaged in Sex with each other....

Go to: http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/genera...22925&view=usa

The book FORBIDDEN FRIENDSHIPS, bi Michael Rocke (published by Oxford University Press) discusses Sexual relationships between Men circa 1400-1500 A. D. in Florence, Italy. (See the bibliography at the end of the book for sources of information)

If this happened as is shown in one town in Europe surely this happened elsewhere as well. If this type of Sexual Behavior is "so wrong" how is it that nearly 50% of the Male population (that were caught!) found it to be so right?

Read the book first. See what it has to say.

Take Care, John H.

**I Are Baboon** · 10-27-2004, 10:11 AM

No wonder Christopher Columbus got the hell out of there.

**Prince** · 10-27-2004, 10:12 AM

are you trying to rationalize your homosexual tendancies or something?

MaxMirkin · 10-27-2004, 10:20 AM

I think John's trying to convert us.

Lurker · 10-27-2004, 10:24 AM

Who cares?

bulletproof1 · 10-27-2004, 10:25 AM

do you even work out?

BabsieGirl · 10-27-2004, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

No wonder Christopher Columbus got the hell out of there.

BabsieGirl · 10-27-2004, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxMirkin

I think John's trying to convert us.

Those were my thoughts exactly.

I like Johnny but I just don't see the reason why he posted this one.

Johnny - Are there Bi-sexual men on this board you're trying to educate? Or, are there men on this board who think it's "wrong" to have sexual relations with other men?

Personally, I don't understand the "passion" in male on male relations. But......I guess a Mans gotta do, what a man's gotta do and it doesn't matter who it's with.......

sorry, I had to say the last part....

JJJ · 10-27-2004, 01:03 PM

lol @ bulletproof1

Jeanie · 10-27-2004, 01:19 PM

BoneCrusher · 10-27-2004, 04:02 PM

John have you ever got laid posting crap like this?

Du · 10-27-2004, 04:11 PM

Hey - thumbs up if you care.

SPIKE1257 · 10-27-2004, 04:16 PM

Nearly 100% of all Men... Are tired of your gay posts.

MaxMirkin · 10-27-2004, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SPIKE1257

Nearly 100% of all Men... Are tired of your gay posts.

min0 lee · 10-27-2004, 04:39 PM

Maybe he's trying to make gay people feel good about themselves.

BoneCrusher · 10-27-2004, 04:44 PM

MaxMirkin · 10-27-2004, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

Maybe he's trying to make gay people feel good about themselves.

So let him go to some gay site and do that. Why do we have to be constantly subjugated to this crap?

Du · 10-27-2004, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by du510

Hey - thumbs up if you care.

Strike that. Raise your hand if you care.

min0 lee · 10-27-2004, 06:18 PM

I see

Du · 10-27-2004, 06:49 PM

Luke9583 · 10-27-2004, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John H.

Nearly 50% of all Men engaged in Sex with each other....
Take Care, John H.

That's a poor statement.

Don't use a percentage to represent both 1/2s
'neary' is a subjective adjective that modifies the 'meat' of your statement, now there are no facts in the statement.
Are you sure they weren't pollin' prisons in europe?

BTW, you sure do read alot of literature on homosexuality

JJJ · 10-28-2004, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke9583

That's a poor statement.

Are you sure they weren't pollin' prisons in europe?

What do you mean europe, Ive seen the show OZ.
Prison in USA = gay rape
Prison in Europe = no food

OceanDude · 10-28-2004, 04:04 AM

John H. is just playing games with the statistics like a lot of people do to make himself feel less guilty about shameful things.

The statement "Nearly 50% of all Men engaged in Sex with each other...." is misleading. If you know this history of Florence (Firenza) it helps to understand what really happened. There happened to be a lot of orgies when the Roman Centurions came into town and they were known to drink a lot and were notoriously known to be far sighted while in a drunken stupor. In some cases they just plugged into whatever seemed to fit. But in most other cases they "had sex with men" in the context of a 3-some or 4-some or "n-some" there the "some" was a local wench (female) who was paid or pressured into performing for the men. In that sense it was not homosexual encounters as John insinuates (cleverly) or fantasizes about but hetero-encounters with multiple partners. Of course some of the historians of the time were also known homosexuals and it is also likely that they recorded their own accounts as their own personal fantasies led them to visualize things that simply never occurred. There is also the fact that many of the Italian women have a history of having dark facial hair and often appeared as men and no doubt some were just as ugly; all adding to the queer statistics.

Sorry John.

Hey this makes me wonder about something. Do Homosexuals consider it "cheating" or being untrue to their unnatural proclivities if they have conventional or anal sex with a woman and visualize a man? Was curious since it might be a way for them to cope and be accepted better.

OD

P.S. The men of Florence also were known to have an interesting perspective on sexual domination. The term "giving head" was not what John would have expected either and many were thus grossly incompetent in administering circumcision rituals with rather unfortunate results. To wit:

BabsieGirl · 10-28-2004, 08:34 AM

Vieope · 10-28-2004, 04:34 PM

Is that good to be gay John H.?

BoneCrusher · 10-28-2004, 04:39 PM

I would guess not if he needs to come to a hetro site to get confirmation of his ability to "fit" in ... even though he doesn't.

min0 lee · 10-28-2004, 05:10 PM

OK, I think I know where he is going with this. Maybe he is trying to say that 50% of IM members are gay or just don't kow it yet.

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