Are you a BiSexual Bodybuilder?

John H. · 07-24-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperFlex

John, no offense dude, but why are you gay? Have you ever seen fault in that decision or acceptance?

Hi Super,

I am a BiSexual Man. And a Man in the truest sense of the word - those that know me personally can tell you that better that I can. I have absolutely noting against those Men who happen to be Homosexual or happen to be Heterosexual. Each is a completely natural and right variation of Sexuality - as with everything in life and living, there is variety - intended to be so. Nothing in life escapes that fact - VARIETY EXISTS IN ALL THINGS - I have no problem with what God chose to make me Sexually speaking. In fact I see things many refuse to see from all perspectives and very objectively. I really enjoy life tremendously. And those that know me personally know that is true and I can tell you I have many people - Men and Women - who have no problem with me at all even Sexually speaking. Sex is sacred and something that is agreed upon mutually between two people who care about each other and are of age and ability of consent and give that consent freely - at least that is always the way I look at it and how I treat those I am with. "...decision..."? It was not a "decision" I made as to my Sexuality but one God made and I completely understand and realize and see nothing at all wrong with what He chose. Like anyone else it is a gift from God whether a person is Heterosexual, BiSexual or Homosexual.

Take Care, John H.

John H. · 07-24-2006, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hardasnails1973

And do you think when you are pumping up backstage at contest that those guys taking pictures of you are from Flex magazine

I THINK NOT !! Competitors bodybuilders kind of forget that when you are out on stage you are fair game to any one. My poor one freinds face showed up on a gay website giving head to another guy. HELL NO I WAS not one tHAt foUND. It one of his gay freinds happen to stumple upon it. Talk about winning the lottery LOL

Hi Hardasnails,

(I bet that is true too (Hardasnails) - Muscle and Body wise for damn sure! I believe you are very into being your very best and stay with it! That is something to be damn proud of - and those that know you personally should also be just as proud for you as well!

A MAN ALWAYS KNOWS - HE IS - regardless of whether he happens to be - Sexually speaking Heterosexual, BiSexual or Homosexual. We are all Human Beings and varied even Sexually speaking - INTENDED to be VARIED because variety IS the spice of life and VARIETY IS INTENDED TO EXIST in ALL THINGS in life and living. That is what makes life so interesting and fun. Think how boring it would be if - as some people would like to have others believe and accept - everyone was supposed to do the same things, be interested in the same things, etc.

Any MAN that poses on stage does so for himself to celebrate what he EARNED THE HARD WAY and shares that with ALL OTHERS who too want to honor that MAN that has SUCCEEDED in BEING His VERY BEST! His photo can appear on a Gay website - so what - but that MAN will ALWAYS KNOW who he IS as born and as created by God. And sharing his hard-earned Muscle with ALL MEN AND WOMEN is something ALL can sincerely and honestly APPRECIATE - and strive to DO for themselves by HIS DAMN GOOD EXAMPLE! Is is "right" for someone to post his picture giving head to another Man without his permission - no! But that fact that that is what he was doing is something between those two MEN and as long as they give a damn honestly about each other that is what is paramount. That someone made the decision to post such a photo of them publicly without their permission is what is wrong and disrespectful to all concerned - even the one that posted and shows how "little" that person that posted the photo is - that person definitely should have asked both MEN pictured beforehand and got their permission beforehand and if that permission was denied accepted that as final and respected their wishes. If the Men involved did give permission than all of us should see the photo as anyone would see the photo of anyone else - as two people who give a damn about each other. Sounds to me that "one of his Gay friends" was not really his FRIEND because FRIENDS respect and honor each other - Gay, Straight or inbetween.

Take Care, John H.

JordanMang · 07-25-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by John H.

Hi Hardasnails,

(I bet that is true too (Hardasnails) - Muscle and Body wise for damn sure! I believe you are very into being your very best and stay with it! That is something to be damn proud of - and those that know you personally should also be just as proud for you as well!

A MAN ALWAYS KNOWS - HE IS - regardless of whether he happens to be - Sexually speaking Heterosexual, BiSexual or Homosexual. We are all Human Beings and varied even Sexually speaking - INTENDED to be VARIED because variety IS the spice of life and VARIETY IS INTENDED TO EXIST in ALL THINGS in life and living. That is what makes life so interesting and fun. Think how boring it would be if - as some people would like to have others believe and accept - everyone was supposed to do the same things, be interested in the same things, etc.

Any MAN that poses on stage does so for himself to celebrate what he EARNED THE HARD WAY and shares that with ALL OTHERS who too want to honor that MAN that has SUCCEEDED in BEING His VERY BEST! His photo can appear on a Gay website - so what - but that MAN will ALWAYS KNOW who he IS as born and as created by God. And sharing his hard-earned Muscle with ALL MEN AND WOMEN is something ALL can sincerely and honestly APPRECIATE - and strive to DO for themselves by HIS DAMN GOOD EXAMPLE! Is is "right" for someone to post his picture giving head to another Man without his permission - no! But that fact that that is what he was doing is something between those two MEN and as long as they give a damn honestly about each other that is what is paramount. That someone made the decision to post such a photo of them publicly without their permission is what is wrong and disrespectful to all concerned - even the one that posted and shows how "little" that person that posted the photo is - that person definitely should have asked both MEN pictured beforehand and got their permission beforehand and if that permission was denied accepted that as final and respected their wishes. If the Men involved did give permission than all of us should see the photo as anyone would see the photo of anyone else - as two people who give a damn about each other. Sounds to me that "one of his Gay friends" was not really his FRIEND because FRIENDS respect and honor each other - Gay, Straight or inbetween.

Take Care, John H.

It doesn't matter if you're gay, bi, or hetero. None of that shit matters. But, I think the God you're refering to is the God in you. I don't know of many God's that believe in homosexuality in any way. Not to say that is wrong, but I'm just confused. You keep contradicting yourself.

crazy_enough · 07-25-2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JordanMang

It doesn't matter if you're gay, bi, or hetero. None of that shit matters. But, I think the God you're refering to is the God in you. I don't know of many God's that believe in homosexuality in any way. Not to say that is wrong, but I'm just confused. You keep contradicting yourself.

God talk and gay talk dont mix man!!! Its gonna go in all fucking directions!!!

But for conversation's sake...Shouldnt any god, in all its greatness "beleive" in all of its creations?

TJ Cline · 07-25-2006, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JordanMang

It doesn't matter if you're gay, bi, or hetero. None of that shit matters. But, I think the God you're refering to is the God in you. I don't know of many God's that believe in homosexuality in any way. Not to say that is wrong, but I'm just confused. You keep contradicting yourself.

#1 God is dead

#2 The Bible never says gay sex is wrong.....How many bible thumpers keep all 10 comandments???? and gay sex is not on that list son.

TJ Cline · 07-25-2006, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

#1 God is dead

#2 The Bible never says gay sex is wrong.....How many bible thumpers keep all 10 comandments???? and gay sex is not on that list son.

But the bible dose condone rape, slavery and murder so you pick your posion son

bio-chem · 07-25-2006, 09:44 PM

#1 God is very much alive
#2 it says sex outside of marriage is wrong (and doesnt allow for gay marriage)
#3 it doesnt condone rape, slavery, or murder

bio-chem · 07-25-2006, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by crazy_enough

God talk and gay talk dont mix man!!! Its gonna go in all fucking directions!!!

But for conversation's sake...Shouldnt any god, in all its greatness "beleive" in all of its creations?

of course God believes in all his creations. he loves all, even as all of us are sinners

TJ Cline · 07-25-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

#1 God is very much alive
#2 it says sex outside of marriage is wrong (and doesnt allow for gay marriage)
#3 it doesnt condone rape, slavery, or murder

#1 Debatable
#2 part one I agree with and 95% of Christians ignore that rule, part two not a chance .
#3 read it again....I have given the passages many times and you are avoiding the truth again....

TJ Cline · 07-25-2006, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

of course God believes in all his creations. he loves all, even as all of us are sinners

I agree he/she loves them enough to damn them to eturnal pain.....

Bakerboy · 07-25-2006, 10:29 PM

Let's face it if there is a hell everyone from IM has an open invitation.

Personally, I hate all organized religions equally. Most people attach themselves to religion because they are afraid of death, afraid of the unknown. other.
Religion is just another way to say I'm better than you, I am such a great person, stroke me.

TJ Cline · 07-25-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakerboy

Let's face it if there is a hell everyone from IM has an open invitation.

Personally, I hate all organized religions equally. Most people attach themselves to religion because they are afraid of death, afraid of the unknown. other.
Religion is just another way to say I'm better than you, I am such a great person, stroke me.

My new sig

JordanMang · 07-25-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

#1 God is dead

#2 The Bible never says gay sex is wrong.....How many bible thumpers keep all 10 comandments???? and gay sex is not on that list son.

Wasn't speaking specifically about the God of Abraham, but if you want to debate over it then that's fine. Gay sex is considered forbidden, and God's in all of us. He's not dead; you're just not seeing him.

TJ Cline · 07-25-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JordanMang

Wasn't speaking specifically about the God of Abraham, but if you want to debate over it then that's fine. Gay sex is considered forbidden, and God's in all of us. He's not dead; you're just not seeing him.

Male Gay sex is mentioned slightly only in the old testament, female gay sex is not ...as is the approval of rape, murder and slavery......so as I said pick what you choose to believe.

JordanMang · 07-25-2006, 10:44 PM

Actually, it says specifically "men are not to lie with other men" and "women are not to lie with other men." Which means have sex.

TJ Cline · 07-25-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JordanMang

Actually, it says specifically "men are not to lie with other men" and "women are not to lie with other men." Which means have sex.

It also says it is ok to murder those who do not believe in God and rape their women, then take them captive as slaves.....words from a evil God at best

JordanMang · 07-25-2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

It also says it is ok to murder those who do not believe in God and rape their women, then take them captive as slaves.....words from a evil God at best

Or evil men. Maybe you should read the new testament. Like I've said in ealier post. Thankfully Christians ignore most of the old testament, you're talking about the Jewish people which is a false religion.

TJ Cline · 07-25-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JordanMang

Or evil men. Maybe you should read the new testament. Like I've said in ealier post. Thankfully Christians ignore most of the old testament, you're talking about the Jewish people which is a false religion.

I am talking about the Bible which is evil.

JordanMang · 07-25-2006, 11:03 PM

Which part?

TJ Cline · 07-25-2006, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JordanMang

Which part?

Christianity teaches both the old and new Testament so as I said the bible is filled with evil.

JordanMang · 07-25-2006, 11:07 PM

It teaches the history of the bible, and of the people of God, and history of the earth as Christians believe it. The beliefs it tries to instill are those of Jesus Christ. If you have read the bible ( which I'm sure you have ) you'd notice that it also says that Jesus basically says "All of the laws before me are evil, and the people who are your religious leaders are evil" etc. Their's a particularly famous passage where he goes into the temple and destroys all the vendors and false idolism.

TJ Cline · 07-25-2006, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JordanMang

It teaches the history of the bible, and of the people of God, and history of the earth as Christians believe it. The beliefs it tries to instill are those of Jesus Christ. If you have read the bible ( which I'm sure you have ) you'd notice that it also says that Jesus basically says "All of the laws before me are evil, and the people who are your religious leaders are evil" etc. Their's a particularly famous passage where he goes into the temple and destroys all the vendors and false idolism.

Where does it say that?

JordanMang · 07-25-2006, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Where does it say that?

God condeming the Jewish people for the killing of Jesus.

When Pilate saw that he could not prevail at all, but rather that a tumult was rising, he took water and washed his hands and said, “I am innocent of the blood of this Just person. You see to it.” And all the people answered and said, “His blood be upon us and on our children.”

Edited to explain: I couldn't find the exact passage, but it's their. I'll find it later for you though.

Here's the passage about him cleansing the temple.

http://gardenofpraise.com/bibl39s.htm

TJ Cline · 07-25-2006, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JordanMang

God condeming the Jewish people for the killing of Jesus.

When Pilate saw that he could not prevail at all, but rather that a tumult was rising, he took water and washed his hands and said, “I am innocent of the blood of this Just person. You see to it.” And all the people answered and said, “His blood be upon us and on our children.”

Edited to explain: I couldn't find the exact passage, but it's their. I'll find it later for you though.

Here's the passage about him cleansing the temple.

http://gardenofpraise.com/bibl39s.htm

Yes but he is not speeking about the old testament or his fathers teachings in it.

JordanMang · 07-25-2006, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Yes but he is not speeking about the old testament or his fathers teachings in it.

http://www.templetons.com/charles/jesus/chapter9.html

Jesus rebudding the teachings of the old testament.

SuperFlex · 07-26-2006, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by John H.

Hi Super,

I am a BiSexual Man. And a Man in the truest sense of the word - those that know me personally can tell you that better that I can. I have absolutely noting against those Men who happen to be Homosexual or happen to be Heterosexual. Each is a completely natural and right variation of Sexuality - as with everything in life and living, there is variety - intended to be so. Nothing in life escapes that fact - VARIETY EXISTS IN ALL THINGS - I have no problem with what God chose to make me Sexually speaking. In fact I see things many refuse to see from all perspectives and very objectively. I really enjoy life tremendously. And those that know me personally know that is true and I can tell you I have many people - Men and Women - who have no problem with me at all even Sexually speaking. Sex is sacred and something that is agreed upon mutually between two people who care about each other and are of age and ability of consent and give that consent freely - at least that is always the way I look at it and how I treat those I am with. "...decision..."? It was not a "decision" I made as to my Sexuality but one God made and I completely understand and realize and see nothing at all wrong with what He chose. Like anyone else it is a gift from God whether a person is Heterosexual, BiSexual or Homosexual.

Take Care, John H.

John thanks for taking the time to talk to me. Even moreso for not taking it personally as any sort of attack. It wasn't... I just wondered what your view on things were. I'm not judging man, you seem like a good dude in general, but look again. God far from made that decision for you, but I understand what you're saying. You were born that way. I think you gave in. Your choice... Anyway, I'll leave you be. Take care man... I hope you continue to enjoy life!

SuperFlex · 07-26-2006, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I am talking about the Bible which is evil.

Read it again...

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JordanMang Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 862	It teaches the history of the bible, and of the people of God, and history of the earth as Christians believe it. The beliefs it tries to instill are those of Jesus Christ. If you have read the bible ( which I'm sure you have ) you'd notice that it also says that Jesus basically says "All of the laws before me are evil, and the people who are your religious leaders are evil" etc. Their's a particularly famous passage where he goes into the temple and destroys all the vendors and false idolism.
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bio-chem Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Utah Posts: 3,931 Photos: 14	#1 God is very much alive #2 it says sex outside of marriage is wrong (and doesnt allow for gay marriage) #3 it doesnt condone rape, slavery, or murder

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Bakerboy cat burglar Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: the city of champions Posts: 4,146 Photos: 3	Let's face it if there is a hell everyone from IM has an open invitation. Personally, I hate all organized religions equally. Most people attach themselves to religion because they are afraid of death, afraid of the unknown. other. Religion is just another way to say I'm better than you, I am such a great person, stroke me.