Originally Posted by JordanMang

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree! But, you'll notice that Jesus sums up the entire thing in 1 sentence. "Treat others has you would have them treat you".

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I have no problem with the teachings of Jesus

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

#1 Debatable
#2 part one I agree with and 95% of Christians ignore that rule, part two not a chance .
#3 read it again....I have given the passages many times and you are avoiding the truth again....

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Originally Posted by bio-chem

#1 of course it is, thats why faith is so important
#2 it is sad many who profane Christianity dont follow that rule. mind explaining to me where the bible says gay marriage is allowed?
#3 avoiding the truth? hardly. I simply chose not to not go into detail into how badly you have not only misinterpreted, but misrepresented what is going on in those passages. and before we go on and on for ever on this, understand i accept the fact that over multiple translations and thousands of years the bible is not entirely correct and is difficult for many to understand.

Originally Posted by god hand

So I guess your 100000% against the death penalty

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

If it is only based on Race, sex or Religous belief...yes I am against it then.

Originally Posted by god hand

So if I killed you, do think I should get the death penality or hold my hand out and get ten slaps from a ruler?

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Any Black man that murders a white man should get the death penality.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

#1 ok
#2 The Bible does not speek against it...esp in the new testament....the old makes a refrance to it but also condones rape and murder so we can see the worth of this evil Gods teachings.
#3 To quote John H: " The bible is man made."

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

If it is only based on Race, sex or Religous belief...yes I am against it then.

Originally Posted by JordanMang

Yes they did.

Leviticus 18:22, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Leviticus 20:13, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Deuteronomy 23:17, "There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel."

Kings 14:24, "And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel."

Kings 15:11-12, "And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father. And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made."

I could go on and on.

Originally Posted by crazy_enough

Shit thats even worst!!!!

I have to take your word for it, for I have given up on this bullshit early in my life and have not read the bible...Nor will I ever.

So ure wonderful loving fair god or whoever idolized him (aint that wrong too????? ) wishes that "sexual sinners" be "...they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Thats just great, what a kind religion...

Originally Posted by JordanMang

I was just pointing out the God is against being homosexual. Do I agree with this? That's debatable at best. I personally think you should do whatever you're comfortable with doing. Hell, my Uncle ( my favorite uncle at that ) is gay, and also a devout Christian. He's come to terms with that fact. I have no problem with gay people. I was just pointing out that it does say that in the bible. Peace & Love.

Originally Posted by crazy_enough

I wasnt bashing u btw , I knew u just posted stuff as an example, but it hit me like a ton of worshiper's bricks!!!

I couldnt imagine myself practicing a religion that condemns and "encourages" (read between the lines here) dismissal and termination of my own lifestyle or behaviours (such as ure uncle did, good for him!)...Some may see it as Im not strong enough to overcome that barrier...Oddly Im a fairly spiritual being...But I have yet to have such a need for "understanding" and justifying my actions thru religion...Live right, be kind, love, laugh, thrive and die....Im alright with just that!

Originally Posted by bio-chem

what if it is based on the fact the guy raped and murdered someone important to you?

Originally Posted by JordanMang

Then you might as well not believe anything that comes out of the bible. Because "God" didn't actually say that to you. You're just making up excuses for your own temptations of the flesh. Stop lying to yourself. You weren't made anyway, and if you were it was your concious decision to embrace that fact. It works just like abstinence. I want to have sex obviously ( with women ), but I abstain from this act. It's called self-control. You lack it. Stop spreading your propaganda.

Originally Posted by god hand

A man using his cock to push another mans shit in is not normal. Case closed.

Originally Posted by John H.

Hi god hand,

How are you?

Can I ask you this: if you said this about a Man and a Woman and these two people were having Sex with each other in the manner you describe would you feel it was wrong? It happens a lot among Heterosexual couples as another variation of Sex. Did you know that?

Am I saying it is right? No. Nor do I say it is wrong. But then I do not tell others how to practice their Sex acts as they see to practice them. It really is not my business to tell others what they can and can not do with regard to the many forms and aspects of having Sex with those they truly care about. And it is their private matter.

Take Care Buddy, John H.