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the changing attitudes towards sex with younger girls (under, say, 22)


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Old 07-03-2007, 12:28 AM   #1
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the changing attitudes towards sex with younger girls (under, say, 22)

i know a couple 19,20, 21 year old girls and sex to them is just like the most casual thing ever....tag teamed by two dudes is nothing at all. they have a boyfriend, then the 2nd boyfriend, then maybe even a fuck buddy....and they aren't, at least visibly, harmed emotionally or psychologically by any of the random sex...and these are the nice, normal type girls, not the ones who are outwardly slutty...what the fuck happened between when i was 19 and the ten years since? because they dont seem to be the slightest bit harmed by it, i cant even call it slutty, it's more like obscene amounts of horniness or something...have the gloves completely come off and there are just no more rules or sexual morals anymore?



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No, they are just whores!
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women are becoming less and less shy about their sexual wants/needs.
Nothing wrong with it at all. It's a male characteristic, sure, but can you blame them?



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I dont agree with it in guys or girls. Im not saying wait untill marriage or anything, but jesus christ have SOME standards.

Im not shy about my sexual needs etc. I think im one of the most open and frank people when it comes to sex, i talk about it quite openly and explicitly even with my parents which some people have a problem with (nothing like "so mum, i banged this chick in the ass last night..." but you get the idea).

Even though im like that, i still dont see the need to fuck everybody at the drop of a hat in every which way possible. Sure sex is pleasurable, but in a way that should at least mean SOMETHING MORE to people than it seems to these days. In today's culture its been reduced to nothing more than a recreational activity on par with tennis.

People enjoy tennis, they do it a few times a week, often with different people, sometimes they play doubles tennis, work up a sweat, pat eachother on the back after the game, hit the showers, and tell their friends about it later.



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If I had a daughter, I'd put her through a wall if she was this way.



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If I had a daughter, I'd put her through a wall if she was this way.
Sholud say, If you had a daughter.....


..She'd probably be knocking up against a wall right now........



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It's a male characteristic, sure, but can you blame them?

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Personally I think that's excessive, I don't think you need more then 1 relationship/sex buddy at a time.
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..She'd probably be knocking up against a wall right now........



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i think a lot of it is a response to what the average young male seems to want, n a lot of the older ones too, sex with no strings. it's not "cool" to want to be exclusive or be in love so girls learn to hide those feelings. n if they say they don't secretly long for more they are full of shit.



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Promiscuity is not cool, regardless of gender.
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there was a girl in high school years ago who would fuck anything that walked. I heard she liked me and I had the opportunity to do her. We got to the area where all HS students would fuck around, and I couldnt do it. Here was a butt naked girl, waiting on a table, legs spread eagle, and i couldnt do it. I dont know if it was the fear "of the AIDS"-back then this disease was scaring the shit out of everyone, or I had a guilt thing going.

Regardless, I didnt do it.I cant understand what makes a person spread her legs in the few minutes that you know them, other than the obvious. I had one night stands in my time and I played the field for years before settling down, but it just doesnt seem right to do this to a girl.

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No it doesn't make sense. Alot of girls arent as obvious with their intentions though



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Makes sense to me.
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there was a girl in high school years ago who would fuck anything that walked. I heard she liked me and I had the opportunity to do her. We got to the area where all HS students would fuck around, and I couldnt do it. Here was a butt naked girl, waiting on a table, legs spread eagle, and i couldnt do it. I dont know if it was the fear "of the AIDS"-back then this disease was scaring the shit out of everyone, or I had a guilt thing going.

Regardless, I didnt do it.I cant understand what makes a person spread her legs in the few minutes that you know them, other than the obvious. I had one night stands in my time and I played the field for years before settling down, but it just doesnt seem right to do this to a girl.

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I respect that, but it probably would have been smarter of you to tell her this before she got naked on the table for you. You know, to save her the embarrassment.
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Standards and morals seem to be going down the drain these days. It's absolutely disgusting.



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there was a girl in high school years ago who would fuck anything that walked. I heard she liked me and I had the opportunity to do her. We got to the area where all HS students would fuck around, and I couldnt do it. Here was a butt naked girl, waiting on a table, legs spread eagle, and i couldnt do it. I dont know if it was the fear "of the AIDS"-back then this disease was scaring the shit out of everyone, or I had a guilt thing going.

Regardless, I didnt do it.I cant understand what makes a person spread her legs in the few minutes that you know them, other than the obvious. I had one night stands in my time and I played the field for years before settling down, but it just doesnt seem right to do this to a girl.

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It makes sense to me, you did the right thing.



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It's a scary thing with these kids, giving good "brain" as they call it now is OK.



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Standards and morals seem to be going down the drain these days. It's absolutely disgusting.
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There is a 13 yr old girl in my town that is screwing around with guys. She is constantly in trouble...........keying cars ect........I know her mom and she is totally fustrated with her. Can't do anything with her and she has tried to get the courts to do something. So far, nothing. But I think we have enough on her now that we can do something with her. Her mom wants her taking away!!



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I think the actions have always been there, only this time, there are no secrets.

Being open about sex is ok, but literally? And open all night?



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I think the actions have always been there, only this time, there are no secrets.

Being open about sex is ok, but literally? And open all night?
I think the internet is making it worse.



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Yep!
There is a 13 yr old girl in my town that is screwing around with guys. She is constantly in trouble...........keying cars ect........I know her mom and she is totally fustrated with her. Can't do anything with her and she has tried to get the courts to do something. So far, nothing. But I think we have enough on her now that we can do something with her. Her mom wants her taking away!!

Thats pretty sad. Myy daughter is 13 and I would be morrtified if I thought that was going on for her and untended by appropriate counsel.

As far as screwing around when you're young goes though, unfortunately without alot of reeally clear advice and chit chats coupled with example - and not juust in terms of that aspect of life- what not alot of ppl ever get privvy to - that just tends to become part of the learning experience of what works and what doesn't in life.
It 's not just girls and women who think it's uncool to care - with the heart on your sleeve b.s. that ppl who haven't figured it out sometimes throw at ppl trying to - it goes for men and boys aswell.

Personally I think sex is great. Hot dirty sex at that. Howevver, it's not until a person actually cares enough and feels cared for baack enough that it clicks that promiscuity is no longer going to serve them.. and then as that revelation unfolds, comes whatever ellse a person has to sort out in their lives to also serve that new realisation. ..even if it means loosing several of them in figuring out and completing each aspect in the meantime.

For myself, a big part of nott doing that today is because - despite my often quietly ragingly needing mojo and otherwise hot babes I would lovve to take to bed for a few weeks of sweet sweaty athleticly delicious fun ( :/)- there comes a point for some of us where hurting ppl and getting hurt and preventing each party from having something better than a detatched screwbuddy- as hot and otherwise self-destructively fun as that can be- gets boring and too emotionally tiring to bother with in lieu of something worth the distraction in lifefrom activities that are more in line with one's or one's parrtners passions and betterment in life...to have a situation later that dooes include all that hot sex and long term emotional satisifaction that it seems to be in lieu of - except by then it's ideally hotter aanyway and worth having long term and having had to work and go without for...so the theory goes.


As a buddhist and single mother and sister and teacher and friend , I often find that really sad to see in society. It's absolutely rapmant and further it's alot bigger of a problem and psychological epidemic with far reaching consequences in the way ppl put their lives togther than might superficially appear.
So much so that after running into one too many abused / neglected and "messed up " lives of children and adults having grown up with but not supported or guided out of that condition, and not just at home in Australia, but throughout the world as I travelled teaching and training with various gurus as I taught and lectured and mingled from group and age and social bracket to bracket and culture and sub-culture to sub-culture, I have made it my personal mission to undertake a Ph.D. in re-writing education curriculum and syllabus programs to present to various govt. and education bodies to reeducate future ( and current if I can find the right effective media) generations on the new drum about what we have gleaned from the internet birth and mutli - media explosion of information and data surrounding abuse and neglect and divorce stats and so on that previous generations have never had benefit from.

It's too too often reeally really difficult for ppl to know what to do for themselves and others in these types of situations without having good role models around nor clear explainations on the pros and cons and point of doing either or over another course of action in this regard and in my opinion, no-one is exempt from having to , at some stage or other confront the issues surrounding it.


All Ii can suggest at this point is in regard to people around you, if you are concerned for aanyone in this regard, do feel free to either set an example yoursellf or where appropriate offer some words of guidance and or support to the effect of where they might like to take their life otherwise and what the reasons for that might be. That is often muuch more difficult than it sounds, and not always recieved so well, but well worth the effort regardless of reception and even if they only progress in baby steps over a lonng period or get no further than to have that seed planted to come back for later, .. and even if it means familiarising oneself with their parrents relationship situation to understand where the behavioural template might've had root - lots of intrusive fun - it gives someone a better chance at something they may not've otherwise had.
.. I doo believe everyone deserves a chance at love and a good healthy relationship and doo be assured that morals doo still exist and there are many many plenty of us out here upholding those and doing what we can to help others understand them.

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i think a lot of it is a response to what the average young male seems to want, n a lot of the older ones too, sex with no strings. it's not "cool" to want to be exclusive or be in love so girls learn to hide those feelings. n if they say they don't secretly long for more they are full of shit.

and on thiis post - maybe LW that's because when ppl put themselves in a position where they're considering a relationship.. there are too many other 'heeavy' things of alll sorts that they 'd otherwise have to confront = hard work and head miles = shrug. ..The key difference being the ability to see the benefit in why to go there and what might be at the end and how worthwhile it could be.
That's how it looks from myy seat anyway and it's sad that's so hard for them.


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agreed, BL. As a special ed high school teacher, I see this all too often. Parents are sometimes not ready to be parents, and sometimes the parents are the fault! Apple doesnt fall far from the tree kind of thing.



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