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My waist has gained a full 2 inches this cycle.

Diesel618

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So I started this cycle at 195 and a 32" waist (at the belly button, relaxed). Now I'm nearly 12 weeks in and I'm at 230, but my waist was 34" this week. I can still see abs pretty well, so is it possible for the abs and lower back to grow at this rate, or am I just a fatass now?

Idk why I made this thread, but I was all psyched about how well this cycle has gone, and then I measure everything and now I'm on the edge of going anorexic/bulemic because I can't tell if I'm swole or just fat from eating 4500 cals for 3 months.

Moral of the story...don't get too excited over numbers skyrocketing in the weight room because there's a good chance that they're skyrocketing in other areas too.

stupid bulking theory.
 
Look at it this way, you didnt even notice your waist was bigger until you measured it, so Im sure it's not as bad as you think. Has your body fat gone up significantly?
 
So I started this cycle at 195 and a 32" waist (at the belly button, relaxed). Now I'm nearly 12 weeks in and I'm at 230, but my waist was 34" this week. I can still see abs pretty well, so is it possible for the abs and lower back to grow at this rate, or am I just a fatass now?

Idk why I made this thread, but I was all psyched about how well this cycle has gone, and then I measure everything and now I'm on the edge of going anorexic/bulemic because I can't tell if I'm swole or just fat from eating 4500 cals for 3 months.

Moral of the story...don't get too excited over numbers skyrocketing in the weight room because there's a good chance that they're skyrocketing in other areas too.

stupid bulking theory.

Looking at your picture I would say you're morbidly obese my friend. I'm sorry to tell you but its the truth. Lol
 
Look at it this way, you didnt even notice your waist was bigger until you measured it, so Im sure it's not as bad as you think. Has your body fat gone up significantly?

If he's like me he probably noticed because his pants/shorts/boxers no longer fit.

Diesel is that you in the avatar?
 
That can't be Diesel in the pic I've seen that before lol. You have to think bro if you gained 35lbs it not just going to your arms chest and lays all your muscles are growing so of course that means abs lumbar glutes etc. I wouldn't go jamming my fingers down my throat and eating laxatives like skittles. When you come off cycle you will lose alot of water and alot gets stored in your core so I'd wait til then to really gauge your gains. IMO
 
It's a sick build that's for sure. Right now I am 235 with 36 waist pants but my ass and legs are so tight in them it hurts so I wear 38 lol
 
Curt james is that you in YOUR avatar? Just wondering because that is me in mine.
 
It's a sick build that's for sure. Right now I am 235 with 36 waist pants but my ass and legs are so tight in them it hurts so I wear 38 lol

I have an odd structure. Wear 34" waist paints which fit comfortably or 36" that are loose.

Curt james is that you in YOUR avatar? Just wondering because that is me in mine.

Definitely. lol

And how are you, Mr. Cash? Always liked your work. What's it like being dead?

Diesel, sorry for ####ing up your thread, man. :sorry:
 
Pitbull, no you are not. That is me in my profile picture, sure I'm dead and all but I'm just a tough son of a bitch
 
@ Curt James, thanks man..... being dead has its advantages..i can be invisible when i want to be and spy on women in the shower
 
I am pretty sure that diesel's avatar is of dexter jackson. I am 220 now with a 31 in waist but when I am on cycle I go up to a 34 in. because my pants don't fit my legs right. I usually wear a 32. Diesel you put on some serious size with this cycle though. 35lbs damn. LOL You are bound to put on some size in the legs and hips when you gain that much weight. When you come off start to shred the fat off. That is what I always do. You will be back in your normal size with a lot more muscle. Must of did something right with this cycle
 
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Clap. Clap. Clap. Well now. At least you can say you ate correctly on a bulk cycle. 2 inches is nothing in the waist. Like everyone else said, with gaining 30plus lbs you prolly put an Inch or more on the glutes, hips, and lower back. Sounds to me like you did everything right. Enjoy the comments you get for being hyooge. You are now at big status.
 
I am pretty sure that diesel's avatar is of dexter jackson. I am 220 now with a 31 in waist but when I am on cycle I go up to a 34 in. because my pants don't fit my legs right. I usually wear a 32. Diesel you put on some serious size with this cycle though. 35lbs damn. LOL You are bound to put on some size in the legs and hips when you gain that much weight. When you come off start to shred the fat off. That is what I always do. You will be back in your normal size with a lot more muscle. Must of did something right with this cycle

Agree 100%
 
35 pounds is a HUGE gain, you can only put on real muscle so fast.
 
Yeah that's dexter jackson in my avatar. I would love for it to be me though. This was my first cycle so I was expecting the strength and weight gains I was just kind of under the illusory perception that if I ate clean and was on gear I couldn't get fat. I started cardio last week and I'm probably gonna go to twice a day for the last couple weeks of the cycle.

A lot of my weight gain was from my hips down, but I measured around my belly button so I can't blame it on hip/glute size. I'm sure if I'd have flexed my abs I could have gotten it down to 33 or so, but this was definately alarming in a bad way. I don't have the excuse of being young and an ecto anymore I guess. Have to do cardio and watch the waistline like a grownup now. :pissed:
 
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Op, dont panic lol. This is what a bulking cycle is. Later on you can cut. try finishing off the last 8 weeks with some tren a for example.

What are you running btw?
 
You must have a great structure to be 230 lbs. with a 34" waist... at the belly button, relaxed, too? :mooh:

I'm 190 lbs. with a 38" waist. :mad:

In other news...
man he looks horrible
 
Yeah that's dexter jackson in my avatar. I would love for it to be me though. This was my first cycle so I was expecting the strength and weight gains I was just kind of under the illusory perception that if I ate clean and was on gear I couldn't get fat. I started cardio last week and I'm probably gonna go to twice a day for the last couple weeks of the cycle.

A lot of my weight gain was from my hips down, but I measured around my belly button so I can't blame it on hip/glute size. I'm sure if I'd have flexed my abs I could have gotten it down to 33 or so, but this was definately alarming in a bad way. I don't have the excuse of being young and an ecto anymore I guess. Have to do cardio and watch the waistline like a grownup now. :pissed:

Dude - if you're running a cycle w/ anything that aromatizes and you're eating a bulking diet, you're going to gain some fat and obviously some water. This is a GOOD thing - it takes water / estrogen to build muscle and protect your joints while you're doing it. I fee like saying if you're going to jump in and do double cardio, you're going to just be wasting the bulk. Rather you might take a look at your diet and maybe consider a bit of carb cycling or something to see you're primarily holding water weight.

The only people I know who can do a lean bulk are those who do it over a long, slow schedule following more of a keto-type diet (and these people typically follow a keto-style diet so their bodies are well-tuned to it anyway.)

Personally I think 2" in your midsection is nothing to worry about. Don't waste your scheduled bulking phase because you're freaking out over the increase. Some small changes in your diet or adding 15 min cardio sessions after training may trim off a little of the excess, but no need to go into a sudden change in your program. Just schedule your phase into a cut phase or whatever you want to do.
 
Perhaps you just have too much estrogen and its got you thinking your fat like a bitch... :) More aromasin perhaps?
 
30+ gains...shit what were you when you started and what are you taking?
 
Test E 500 mg/week with a 20 mg SD kickstart. I was only 195 to start. yes I know I didn't reach my full genetic potential but whatever I'm not a law abiding citizen either.
 
I am impressed brotha. How much over your maintenance are you eating calorie wise.
 
Same thing happened to me man,I went from 185 at the start of my cycle to 230 at the end (Link is in my sig). Of course I did gain some fat but I gained a lot of muscle and strength which were my goals. I was eating 4k+ cal's ed and 300+g's protein ed. Just finish the bulk out as planned, maybe lower ur calories a tad if it is freaking you out too much.

Put on as much size and strength as possible. Remember you can cut later!
 
Same thing happened to me man,I went from 185 at the start of my cycle to 230 at the end (Link is in my sig). Of course I did gain some fat but I gained a lot of muscle and strength which were my goals. I was eating 4k+ cal's ed and 300+g's protein ed. Just finish the bulk out as planned, maybe lower ur calories a tad if it is freaking you out too much.

Put on as much size and strength as possible. Remember you can cut later!

yeah I'm not gonna go overboard with the cardio like I was planning, I am gonna add some cortisol control to my PCT though, which I wasn't planning on, just because I can tell the fat I've gained is in my lovehandles and lower abs, and that kinda signals a mix of estrogen/cortisol to me. Glad to hear your cycle went so well. What do you know steroids DO work...contrary to popular propaganda.


Thanks for all the good words guys...with this being my first cycle I am making sure to get the most out of it because I know my receptors will never be this fresh again and I'm not gonna put on 30+ lbs in any future cycles...if that were the case I'd be packing on Olympia size in 2 or 3 cycles lol.

My maintenance before the cycle was @3500. I haven't figured my maintenance since then because my weight is steadily climbing every week. I'm gonna keep the cals at 4500 through PCT at least, and then increase cardio or decrease cals as needed to get ready for shirtless season.

Off to treat myself to an arm day. :ohyeah:
 
So I started this cycle at 195 and a 32" waist (at the belly button, relaxed). Now I'm nearly 12 weeks in and I'm at 230, but my waist was 34" this week. I can still see abs pretty well, so is it possible for the abs and lower back to grow at this rate, or am I just a fatass now?

Idk why I made this thread, but I was all psyched about how well this cycle has gone, and then I measure everything and now I'm on the edge of going anorexic/bulemic because I can't tell if I'm swole or just fat from eating 4500 cals for 3 months.

Moral of the story...don't get too excited over numbers skyrocketing in the weight room because there's a good chance that they're skyrocketing in other areas too.

stupid bulking theory.
what aas our you using?? 4500 cals a day. Are you hungry or something.lol
 
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