I have been on 160mg of Tren E and 100mg of Test E weekly for 6 weeks now. Weight is down a bit and strength is up a bit. However, it's nothing to write home about. Am I simply not using enough Tren for it to be effective or something? I mean 160mg of Tren should be equal to 800mg of Test. I am experiencing insomnia with bad night sweats however.
Superdrol, on the other hand, (IronMagLabs MD-Extreme) at one capsule a day (10mg of Superdrol) made me Superman compared to Tren.
Is 70mg of Superdrol on a weekly basis (10mg * 7 days) stronger than 160mg of Tren? Considering the sides, should I just quit Tren? I can't sleep! Even with Benadryl, GABA, and Melatonin.
I hate Tren and don't see what all the hype is about so far. Thanks guys.
I think maybe you are looking at things in the wrong way. Every steroid has different effects, so you need to specifically define the word "strength" before saying that a certain steroid is "stronger" than another. For example, you said that 160 mg of tren should be equal to 800 mg of test. Really? Equal in what way? Tren and test are two very different drugs which provide radically different effects. Just because tren's anabolic rating is 5X higher than test does NOT mean it will build 5X as much muscle. Despite the reduced anabolic rating, test will always be the superior mass-builder. Anabolic ratings are basically worthless for assessing a steroid muscle building potential. For example, halotesting has an anabolic rating of 1900...19X higher than test, yet it build almost no muscle. Anavar has an abolic rating of over 600, yet it doesn't build anywhere near the mass of testosterone. Technically, Anavar's anaboplic rating is 50% higher than SD's, yet SD builds many, many times as much muscle as Anavar, when compared mg per mg.
A steroid's myotropic potency (muscle building strength) and its anabolic rating are two very different things. Anabolic ratings are not accurate indicators of growth potential. The fact is that SD is a much more potent mass-builder than tren when compared on a mg per mg basis...not even close, really. This is why many guys have gained 15-20 lbs in 30 days using SD at only 30 mg daily, but if you use that same dose of tren you might not gain any weight at all. Rather, you will probably just harden up, dry out a bit, and look denser.
You should stop looking at a steroid's A:A rating and instead, learn about the specific effects each steroid provides. There are plenty of eprienced users online who can guide you in selecting steroids suited to your goals. There is also plenty of informatiom posted describing the different AAS and their ideal uses. If you want to build mass while keeping things simple, it is hard to beat a traditional testosterone & mass-building oral cycle, such as Test & SD...test & Anadrol...test & dimethazine...or test & Dianabol, etc. If you want to further improve your gains, you can throw in something like trenbolone, nandrolone, trestolone, or 1-testosterone. Tren won't build a lot of "mass" on its own, but most of the weight you do add will be legitimate muscle fiber. It will also make you look harder, drier, and better overall. Nandrolone is another traditional injectable mass-builder that stacks well with testosterone. Trestolone is also excellent at proper dosages. 1-testosterone is similar to tren in terms of visual effects, but slightly weaker without the side effects.
If mass is the goal, avoid things like Masteron, Boldenone, Primobolan, Anavar, Winstrol, etc.
A great mass-building stack is testosterone and Super DMZ 3.0. As far as 2-way stacks go, it is going to be very hard to beat.