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2.Manny Ramirez 3.Johnny Damon 4.Trot Nixon 5.David Ortiz 6.Shea Hillenbrand 7.Derek Lowe 8.Pedro Martinez 9.Brian Roberts 10.Jay Gibbons 11.Melvin Mora 12.Jerry Hairston 13.Jason Giambi 14.Alfonso Soriano 15.Raul Mondesi 16. Aaron Boone 17.Andy Pettitte 18.Jose Contreras 19.Roger Clemens 20.Carlos Delgado 21.Vernon Wells 22.Frank Catalanotto 23.Kenny Rogers 24.Magglio Ordonez 25.Sandy Alomar 26.Bartolo Colon 27.Brent Abernathy 28.Jose Lima 29.Milton Bradley 30.Casey Blake 31.Danys Baez 32.Craig Monroe 33.Dmitri Young 34.Alex Sanchez 35.Eric Chavez 36.Miguel Tejada 37.Eric Byrnes 38.Jose Guillen 39.Keith Foulke 40.Ricardo Rincon 41.Bret Boone 42.Mike Cameron 43.Randy Winn 44.Ryan Franklin 45.Freddy Garcia 46.Rafael Soriano 47.Scott Spiezio 48.Troy Glaus 49.Francisco Rodriguez 50.Ben Weber 51.Alex Rodriguez 52.Juan Gonzalez 53.Rafael Palmeiro 54.Carl Everett 55.Javy Lopez 56.Gary Sheffield 57.Mike Hampton 58.Ivan Rodriguez 59.Derrek Lee 60.Bobby Abreu 61.Terry Adams 62.Fernando Tatis 63.Livan Hernandez 64.Hector Almonte 65.Tony Armas 66.Dan Smith 67.Roberto Alomar 68.Cliff Floyd 69.Roger Cedeno 70.Jeromy Burnitz 71.Moises Alou 72.Sammy Sosa 73.Corey Patterson 74.Carlos Zambrano 75.Mark Prior 76.Kerry Wood 77.Matt Clement 78.Antonio Alfonseca 79.Juan Cruz 80.Aramis Ramirez 81.Craig Wilson 82.Kris Benson 83.Richie Sexson 84.Geoff Jenkins 85.Valerio de los Santos 86.Benito Santiago 87.Rich Aurilia 88.Barry Bonds 89.Andres Galarraga 90.Jason Schmidt 91.Felix Rodriguez 92.Jason Christiansen 93.Matt Herges 94.Paul Lo Duca 95.Shawn Green 96.Oliver Perez 97.Adrian Beltre 98.Eric Gagne 99.Guillermo Mota 100.Luis Gonzalez 101.Todd Helton 102.Ryan Klesko 103.Gary Matthews |
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Not surprised by any of those names.
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It wouldn't surprise me either.
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I have to admit, there's some names on there I wouldn't have suspected.
I'm sure there's a lot more than that!
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Interesting!!
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Not surprised either, but
Notice how many of those dudes either got quickly traded away from their teams, or just kinda tipped the fuck out the game......
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Another fake thread by Mino...
"A child does not learn to squat from the top down -- in other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and makes the conscious decision to stand." - Gray Cook
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Actually it isn't.
Just remember that it's just a rumor, although I wouldn't be surprised it's real. |
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The funny thing is that your not the first Boston fan to complain about it. The Red Sox fans are really not used to being a winning team, you would figure that being a winning team for a decade you would get used to people biting at your feet. I really shouldn't speak, I mean after being the most successful team for almost 100 years we Yankee fans are accustomed to the jealousy success breeds I wouldn't know this feeling. I should understand the stigma of losing for all of those years.....it was much like the Road Runner & Wil E Coyote cartoons where the coyote always found a way to lose. Well the Coyote finally caught the road runner....so enjoy your meal for now...cause it won't last!!!! |
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Looking at it now the Yankees are second.....if I have time I will sort them out.
Oh..and before I forget....*2003 |
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Now this is a shocker....if this is also true.
Report: Clemens Didn't Test Positive in 2003 NEW YORK — Roger Clemens' lawyer says the pitcher was not among the more than 100 players who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in 2003. Rusty Hardin tells The New York Times that Clemens obtained the results from the drug-testing company and provided them to Congress before his 2008 testimony by waiving his right to keep them private. |
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Geez quite a confidential list. If a lawyer can obtain them.
I can smell a lawsuit.
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And i am used to winning for sure. Patriots 3 SB titles, Celtics 2008 champs and Redsox 04' and 07' world series champs. I was born in 1986 so i did not have to suffer like most diehards and didn't really start watching sports until the mid to late 90's. Stop judging all Sox fans as if we are all the same. You should know better. |
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I do.
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It is listed by division. They started with the AL East and worked their way around. You can see that the first four teams are the Red Sox, Orioles, Yankees , Blue Jays. It then works its way through the rest of the American League and to the National League.
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At this point, the only name that would surprise me would be Greg Maddux (the guy was like 150 pounds soaking wet).
There was a similar "confidential list" that was leaked a few days before the Mitchell Report was released that supposedly contained all the Mitchell Report names. Half the names on that list were not in the report. I don't give much thought to these lists until they are reported by mainstream sports media (you know, news agencies with credentials). |
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Most players, especially pitchers, do it for the recovery benefits.
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As much as I am against steroid usage this I can accept.
Isn't HGH used for this purpose? |
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It is, and if I played pro sports, I would at least take Hgh. So, I'd be on that list.....But i'd still be a millionaire!
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Yeah, and neither is the once stated strongest man in So. Cal. Mike Piazza.
I know, he had to be on the juice.
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Is it a coincidenance a few of them have suffer a torn labrum.
A-ROD, Lowell, delgado...is that a symptom with steroid user? |
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Either way, baseball would almost not exist anymore if it weren't for the 'steroids era'. There was a lock out, and then after baseball started up again, the attendance numbers were dismal. Fortunately, Sosa and McGwire started going yard every other game and numbers were back up. Additionally, everyone always talks about 'integrity of the game' and all that. Apparently everyone forgets about how "best players of all time" type players 'cheated' as well. Gaylord Perry scuffed the baseball between each pitch with vaseline and a razor and the Dimaggio era Yankees drank coffee between each inning with amphetamine dissolved in them. Here's a nice little bit of information from a book released on the topic: In 1961, during his home run race with Roger Maris, Mickey Mantle developed a sudden abscess that kept him on the bench. It came from an infected needle used by Max Jacobson, a quack who injected Mantle with a home-brew containing steroids and speed. In his autobiography, Hank Aaron admitted once taking an amphetamine tablet during a game. The Pirates' John Milner testified at a drug dealer's trial that his teammate, Willie Mays, kept "red juice," a liquid form of speed, in his locker. (Mays denied it.) After he retired, Sandy Koufax admitted the he was often "half high" on the mound from the drugs he took for his ailing left arm.
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Steroids, Spitballs, and Greenies: a Baseball Hypocrisy | Sportales
Interesting article, for those up in arms about steroid use in baseball.
Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.
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