David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez tested positive in 2003

min0 lee · 07-31-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

His steroid supplier Manny left.

He just found another supplier recently

That was the first thing in my mind.

Triple Threat · 08-02-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

No more so than the 03 Yankees.

Florida beat NY in the series that year.

Triple Threat · 08-02-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

LOL....I like how Nomar is now stating that some guys chose not to take the test and said to put them down as "positive" so that it would elevate the numbers and force baseball to institute a testing policy....Riiiiiiight. Sounds like a guy who is trying to cover his tracks to me.

patrick

Give Nomar an A+ for creativity.

the nut · 08-02-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

The only player I believe in anymore is Len "nails" Dyskstra. He was totally clean.

Griffey, Jr. Is there anyone even close to his numbers who hasn't been rumored?

**IainDaniel** · 08-03-2009, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by the nut

Griffey, Jr. Is there anyone even close to his numbers who hasn't been rumored?

I dunno... there is some doubt there for me. With the type of injuries he has had.

**P-funk** · 08-03-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

I dunno... there is some doubt there for me. With the type of injuries he has had.

What about Griffey Sr.?

patrick

the nut · 08-03-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

I dunno... there is some doubt there for me. With the type of injuries he has had.

You could make the case, especially with the players confirmed or rumored from those Seattle teams. But so far his name hasn't come up. I personally believe he would've been out by someone. Anyone with huge home run numbers in this era has already been linked by a trainer, or Canseco, or an anon test result. Maybe it's coming, I hope not.

min0 lee · 08-04-2009, 06:08 AM

Big Papi's big loophole: Could Red Sox slugger David Ortiz blame test on supplement?

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**IainDaniel** · 08-04-2009, 07:45 AM

Blaming it on a supplement is a weak excuse. They have so many people to refer to and consult.

The League provides more then enough help, if the player cares.

**I Are Baboon** · 08-04-2009, 08:56 AM

Big Papi needs to man up and talk about this.

**I Are Baboon** · 08-05-2009, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

Big Papi needs to man up and talk about this.

The longer he waits, the less credible he becomes.

**IainDaniel** · 08-05-2009, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

The longer he waits, the less credible he becomes.

I dunno. Users have faced less wrath, then the initial group that got busted.

Look at Manny he said shit, and no one cares.

Less to say, less chance of burying yourself.

**I Are Baboon** · 08-05-2009, 07:58 AM

Red Sox fans want an explanation.

**IainDaniel** · 08-05-2009, 08:01 AM

He wanted to succeed and get paid more money

Triple Threat · 08-05-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

He wanted to succeed and get paid more money

Looks like it worked.

min0 lee · 08-05-2009, 03:38 PM

I read an article where Pedro Martinez questioned why are the Dominican players being singled out.
It turns out they weren't singled out, he was just crying and exaggerating.
The idiot should know that getting roids from his country is a easy as buying beer. I never liked that ass.

**I Are Baboon** · 08-05-2009, 04:34 PM

Red Sox Nation as a whole is pissed about this and they want an explanation from Ortiz.

Of course, I was in Baltimore last weekend for the Sox series and I cheered Ortiz anyway. But I'm funny like that. BTW, a Sox series in Baltimore is frikkin awesome when you are there. Sox fans EVERYWHERE and we took over all the bars.

the nut · 08-05-2009, 07:34 PM

This was in this weeks SI....Checking In With Barry - 08.10.09 - SI Vault

Checking In With Barry
CHRIS BALLARD

TO: Baseball fans and media

FROM: Barry Bonds

Remember me? Dude who gave you 762 free souvenirs and never once got thanked? Dude who embarrassed National League pitchers for two decades, put up the most ridiculous numbers in baseball history and won seven MVP awards? Time was, you respected me. Some of you even loved me.

Until you hated me. So I didn't smile and sign every little kid's T-shirt. So I ignored a teammate or two. So I blew off reporters—hey, they were just going to make stuff up anyway. And yeah, so I took some of the Clear. O.K., maybe I took enough to put a horse in a coma, but what's the difference? Point is, I could play the game. Play it like no one else. Ever.

None of that mattered, though. You called me a cheater and said it all had to go—the respect, the records, even the chance to play. Come on, two years ago I put up a 1.045 OPS. You're telling me no team could have used that kind of talent last season? Know how many hitters have an OPS that high right now? (Yeah, you bet I keep up.) That's right: one. Your boy Albert Pujols—or as my friends call him, the Last Great Clean Hope (Until He Isn't). But me? I sat and waited for a phone call that never came, unless it was my lawyers wanting to talk about that annoying perjury case.

Teams thought I'd be a p.r. nightmare. A locker room problem. That I was old and grumpy and couldn't field. Hell, Adam Dunn is young and grumpy and can't field, and the Nationals signed him for 10 mil a year. But no, I was the Great Steroid Pariah. Yeah, you're damn right I know what that word means.

So I have to ask: What do you think of me now? Come on, let's go down the list together of all the big names linked to performance-enhancing drugs: McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, A-Rod, Manny and now Big Papi. You people love Big Papi. Can't get enough of him. But wasn't it obvious his numbers were bogus? Dude used to be a scrub. Then at 27 he suddenly turns into Reggie freaking Jackson? He went from hitting 20 home runs a season to 54! But none of you noticed because you were all talking about my hat size, and besides, David Ortiz didn't look like a user. He was too goofy, too soft and—let's be honest—too fat. It was like saying Santa Claus was on the juice.

So how are you going to treat Papi now? Will you boo him and throw syringes on the field like you did to me? Are you going to sic Pedro Gomez on him? Because if so, can you get on that sooner rather than later? The guy's still camping out on my porch. I'm not joking. I can see him through the curtains right now.

While we're at it, just what price has Manny paid? Let's see: a 50-game suspension and then ... what? More love from you guys. Just last week some joker from a Long Beach paper went on about how great Manny was because when he approached Manny for an interview and mentioned Armenian food, Manny said the two of them should go out for Armenian sometime and gave him his number. Hello! I love Armenian food. Are you telling me all it takes to change your opinion is sharing some tas kebab? Are you people really that shallow?

Wait, don't answer that. Go on hating me. It's cool. I still have my trial, and I need to finish patching things up with my wife now that we're no longer getting a divorce—despite that big-mouth girlfriend of mine. And of course I need time to work on my Hall of Fame acceptance speech—that is, if I decide you all deserve to hear one.

And think about this: Only seven of the 104 names on that master list of juicers have come out. That means there are nearly one hundred still to drop, and that's just from that one round of testing six years ago. Jose Canseco says there's a 95% chance anyone who played in the last 20 years was using something, and even though he's a total nut job who I'd probably hit in the face with a bat if I saw him in a back alley, dude does seem to know what he's talking about when it comes to cheating.

So here's what I'm asking. As each new name comes out and you guys all care less and forgive quicker because you just want to move on already, think about me for a second. You know, the guy you singled out among an invisible crowd of hundreds of players, the guy who took all your anger for all those years and never let it break him. And ask yourself this: What if I'd been a nice guy? What if I'd smiled at the crowds and had a cute nickname like Big Bappi and took all of you out for Armenian food? And what if you just found out I'd been on the juice—well, what would you think of me then? Would I still be public enemy No. 1? Or would you feel different? Because I'm thinking you would.

I'm thinking that right about now you're feeling bad about how you treated me. I'm thinking maybe you'd like to apologize.

Not that I care, of course. No, not at all.

min0 lee · 08-06-2009, 05:31 PM

David Ortiz will address media Saturday

**I Are Baboon** · 08-06-2009, 07:32 PM

Interesting that he'll be joined by the new head of the MLBPA. I'm interested to see what he/they have to say. Those queers.

**IainDaniel** · 08-07-2009, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

Interesting that he'll be joined by the new head of the MLBPA. I'm interested to see what he/they have to say. Those queers.

If you think anything of importance will be said, you will be disappointed. Deflect deflect deflect.

min0 lee · 08-07-2009, 03:25 PM

I wonder if he'll all of the sudden forget how to speak English?

08-04-2009, 06:08 AM	#38
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08-04-2009, 07:45 AM	#39
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	Blaming it on a supplement is a weak excuse. They have so many people to refer to and consult. The League provides more then enough help, if the player cares. Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

08-05-2009, 08:01 AM	#44
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	He wanted to succeed and get paid more money Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

08-05-2009, 03:38 PM	#46
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	I read an article where Pedro Martinez questioned why are the Dominican players being singled out. It turns out they weren't singled out, he was just crying and exaggerating. The idiot should know that getting roids from his country is a easy as buying beer. I never liked that ass. How To Do The Perfect Bench Press Rep Bodybuilding and Lifting Weights, the Difference ironmagazine-frapper

08-05-2009, 07:34 PM	#48
the nut And the winner is...... Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Quahog, RI Posts: 2,258 Photos: 6	This was in this weeks SI....Checking In With Barry - 08.10.09 - SI Vault Checking In With Barry CHRIS BALLARD TO: Baseball fans and media FROM: Barry Bonds Remember me? Dude who gave you 762 free souvenirs and never once got thanked? Dude who embarrassed National League pitchers for two decades, put up the most ridiculous numbers in baseball history and won seven MVP awards? Time was, you respected me. Some of you even loved me. Until you hated me. So I didn't smile and sign every little kid's T-shirt. So I ignored a teammate or two. So I blew off reporters—hey, they were just going to make stuff up anyway. And yeah, so I took some of the Clear. O.K., maybe I took enough to put a horse in a coma, but what's the difference? Point is, I could play the game. Play it like no one else. Ever. None of that mattered, though. You called me a cheater and said it all had to go—the respect, the records, even the chance to play. Come on, two years ago I put up a 1.045 OPS. You're telling me no team could have used that kind of talent last season? Know how many hitters have an OPS that high right now? (Yeah, you bet I keep up.) That's right: one. Your boy Albert Pujols—or as my friends call him, the Last Great Clean Hope (Until He Isn't). But me? I sat and waited for a phone call that never came, unless it was my lawyers wanting to talk about that annoying perjury case. Teams thought I'd be a p.r. nightmare. A locker room problem. That I was old and grumpy and couldn't field. Hell, Adam Dunn is young and grumpy and can't field, and the Nationals signed him for 10 mil a year. But no, I was the Great Steroid Pariah. Yeah, you're damn right I know what that word means. So I have to ask: What do you think of me now? Come on, let's go down the list together of all the big names linked to performance-enhancing drugs: McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, A-Rod, Manny and now Big Papi. You people love Big Papi. Can't get enough of him. But wasn't it obvious his numbers were bogus? Dude used to be a scrub. Then at 27 he suddenly turns into Reggie freaking Jackson? He went from hitting 20 home runs a season to 54! But none of you noticed because you were all talking about my hat size, and besides, David Ortiz didn't look like a user. He was too goofy, too soft and—let's be honest—too fat. It was like saying Santa Claus was on the juice. So how are you going to treat Papi now? Will you boo him and throw syringes on the field like you did to me? Are you going to sic Pedro Gomez on him? Because if so, can you get on that sooner rather than later? The guy's still camping out on my porch. I'm not joking. I can see him through the curtains right now. While we're at it, just what price has Manny paid? Let's see: a 50-game suspension and then ... what? More love from you guys. Just last week some joker from a Long Beach paper went on about how great Manny was because when he approached Manny for an interview and mentioned Armenian food, Manny said the two of them should go out for Armenian sometime and gave him his number. Hello! I love Armenian food. Are you telling me all it takes to change your opinion is sharing some tas kebab? Are you people really that shallow? Wait, don't answer that. Go on hating me. It's cool. I still have my trial, and I need to finish patching things up with my wife now that we're no longer getting a divorce—despite that big-mouth girlfriend of mine. And of course I need time to work on my Hall of Fame acceptance speech—that is, if I decide you all deserve to hear one. And think about this: Only seven of the 104 names on that master list of juicers have come out. That means there are nearly one hundred still to drop, and that's just from that one round of testing six years ago. Jose Canseco says there's a 95% chance anyone who played in the last 20 years was using something, and even though he's a total nut job who I'd probably hit in the face with a bat if I saw him in a back alley, dude does seem to know what he's talking about when it comes to cheating. So here's what I'm asking. As each new name comes out and you guys all care less and forgive quicker because you just want to move on already, think about me for a second. You know, the guy you singled out among an invisible crowd of hundreds of players, the guy who took all your anger for all those years and never let it break him. And ask yourself this: What if I'd been a nice guy? What if I'd smiled at the crowds and had a cute nickname like Big Bappi and took all of you out for Armenian food? And what if you just found out I'd been on the juice—well, what would you think of me then? Would I still be public enemy No. 1? Or would you feel different? Because I'm thinking you would. I'm thinking that right about now you're feeling bad about how you treated me. I'm thinking maybe you'd like to apologize. Not that I care, of course. No, not at all. *I hope that donkey doesn't have a heinie troll!*

08-04-2009, 08:56 AM	#40
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	Big Papi needs to man up and talk about this.

08-05-2009, 07:58 AM	#43
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	Red Sox fans want an explanation.

08-05-2009, 04:34 PM	#47
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	Red Sox Nation as a whole is pissed about this and they want an explanation from Ortiz. Of course, I was in Baltimore last weekend for the Sox series and I cheered Ortiz anyway. But I'm funny like that. BTW, a Sox series in Baltimore is frikkin awesome when you are there. Sox fans EVERYWHERE and we took over all the bars.

08-06-2009, 05:31 PM	#49
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08-06-2009, 07:32 PM	#50
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	Interesting that he'll be joined by the new head of the MLBPA. I'm interested to see what he/they have to say. Those queers.

08-07-2009, 03:25 PM	#52
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	I wonder if he'll all of the sudden forget how to speak English? How To Do The Perfect Bench Press Rep Bodybuilding and Lifting Weights, the Difference ironmagazine-frapper

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