David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez tested positive in 2003

**I Are Baboon** · 07-30-2009, 11:45 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/sp.../31doping.html

I am shocked, I tell ya.

**IainDaniel** · 07-30-2009, 11:52 AM

No big surprise.

IronAddict · 07-30-2009, 11:54 AM

Yeah, but what do we expect! The FDA says, we should never ever take nutritional supplements.

Triple Threat · 07-30-2009, 12:05 PM

So those World Series titles in 2004 and 2007 are tainted?

**I Are Baboon** · 07-30-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple Threat

So those World Series titles in 2004 and 2007 are tainted?

No more so than the 03 Yankees.

**P-funk** · 07-30-2009, 12:32 PM

No big surprise. Man, Ortiz has not been great at all this year.

The only player I believe in anymore is Len "nails" Dyskstra. He was totally clean.

patrick

largepkg · 07-30-2009, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

No big surprise. Man, Ortiz has not been great at all this year.

The only player I believe in anymore is Len "nails" Dyskstra. He was totally clean.

patrick

Nails is pathological P. You see the two HBO specials they had with him? Dude is certifiable.

**P-funk** · 07-30-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by largepkg

Nails is pathological P. You see the two HBO specials they had with him? Dude is certifiable.

Yea, they were on youtube. Awesomeness!

YouTube Video

largepkg · 07-30-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

Yea, they were on youtube. Awesomeness!

YouTube Video

That's part 1. You see part 2? That's where you see him crash and burn.

**P-funk** · 07-30-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by largepkg

That's part 1. You see part 2? That's where you see him crash and burn.

I've seen it before. It used to be on youtube but I can't find it for some reason? Maybe HBO took it down?

He is totally bankrupt now I believe.

patrick

min0 lee · 07-30-2009, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/sp.../31doping.html

I am shocked, I tell ya.

Old news,I broke this news weeks ago.

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

No more so than the 03 Yankees.

27 minus 1...I can deal with that.

**I Are Baboon** · 07-30-2009, 05:08 PM

At least the Red Sox win championships when they juice.

min0 lee · 07-30-2009, 06:01 PM

Ha!

It is amazing how low their numbers are now.
They say that before Ortiz took steroids he wasn't such a power hitter. Let me check.

**IainDaniel** · 07-30-2009, 06:55 PM

before 2003 he hit like 17 and 21 Hrs.

min0 lee · 07-30-2009, 06:56 PM

Like other players their numbers have declined.

I know you say players used uppers years ago but steroids are at a different level.

**IainDaniel** · 07-30-2009, 07:02 PM

I agree.

But it is cheating none the less, according to today's standards.

min0 lee · 07-30-2009, 07:02 PM

I wonder how Sox will take this one..he's still reeling from the news that Dice-K tested positive for Vagisil.

**IainDaniel** · 07-30-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

I wonder how Sox will take this one..he's still reeling from the news that Dice-K tested positive for Vagisil.

haha

min0 lee · 07-30-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

I agree.

But it is cheating none the less, according to today's standards.

True, it really disappointed me when I heard Willie Mays mixed it with his coffee.

**IainDaniel** · 07-30-2009, 07:08 PM

Here you go mino. Sox on Ortiz

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

I don't know.

He's a big boy naturally and his arms are so damn little that I find it hard to believe.

Plus, his quotes when the story first began a couple of years ago.

I just don't see it, but I definitely could be wrong on this one.

min0 lee · 07-30-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Here you go mino. Sox on Ortiz

Most people think that you become Arnold the moment you touch steroids but these players now know that certain steroids affect your differently.....not that I really know much about it, I would also have though the same about Ortiz.
I like Ortiz as player, hopefully he can bounce back and at least be close to the numbers he put up in past years.

Here's his quote.

Quote:

”I think you clean up the game by the testing. I know that if I test positive by using any kind of substance, I know that I’m going to disrespect my family, the game, the fans and everybody, and I don’t want to be facing that situation. “So what would I do? I won’t use it, and I’m pretty sure that everybody is on the same page,”

**I Are Baboon** · 07-30-2009, 07:52 PM

soxmuscle...where is that homo?

**P-funk** · 07-30-2009, 10:42 PM

LOL....I like how Nomar is now stating that some guys chose not to take the test and said to put them down as "positive" so that it would elevate the numbers and force baseball to institute a testing policy....Riiiiiiight. Sounds like a guy who is trying to cover his tracks to me.

patrick

**IainDaniel** · 07-31-2009, 07:29 AM

58 hrs prior to 2003 in 6 seasons

244 hrs since 2003

Obviously the steroid testing isn't working too well.

**P-funk** · 07-31-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

58 hrs prior to 2003 in 6 seasons

244 hrs since 2003

Obviously the steroid testing isn't working too well.

Whose stat is that? Nomar's?

**IainDaniel** · 07-31-2009, 08:53 AM

Big Papi

**P-funk** · 07-31-2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Big Papi

He only had 53 home runs in 6-seasons? WOW, I would have never guessed that stat. I guess he just sort of popped on the scene in 2003 as this big home run hitter who would come in and save the day with walk-off home runs and I never realized what he was doing prior to that, so i just accepted that he was quietly hitting a ton of home runs and no one really talked about it. Guess I was wrong.

patrick

**IainDaniel** · 07-31-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

He only had 53 home runs in 6-seasons? WOW, I would have never guessed that stat. I guess he just sort of popped on the scene in 2003 as this big home run hitter who would come in and save the day with walk-off home runs and I never realized what he was doing prior to that, so i just accepted that he was quietly hitting a ton of home runs and no one really talked about it. Guess I was wrong.

patrick

In fairness, he didn't play a lot of games with minny. But was hitting a tater on average ever 26 At bats.

Now in his career with boston, he has been hitting a tater every 14 at bats.

**P-funk** · 07-31-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Now in his career with boston, he has been hitting a tater every 14 at bats.

Not this season though. I wonder what happened to him?

patrick

**IainDaniel** · 07-31-2009, 09:28 AM

His steroid supplier Manny left.

He just found another supplier recently

07-30-2009, 11:45 AM	#1
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez tested positive in 2003 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/sp.../31doping.html I am shocked, I tell ya.

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IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	No big surprise. Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

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P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,699	No big surprise. Man, Ortiz has not been great at all this year. The only player I believe in anymore is Len "nails" Dyskstra. He was totally clean. patrick E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

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min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	Ha! It is amazing how low their numbers are now. They say that before Ortiz took steroids he wasn't such a power hitter. Let me check. How To Do The Perfect Bench Press Rep Bodybuilding and Lifting Weights, the Difference ironmagazine-frapper

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Triple Threat End of the world Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lost Posts: 10,444 Photos: 6	So those World Series titles in 2004 and 2007 are tainted?

07-30-2009, 05:08 PM	#12
I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	At least the Red Sox win championships when they juice.

07-30-2009, 06:55 PM	#14
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	before 2003 he hit like 17 and 21 Hrs. Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

07-30-2009, 06:56 PM	#15
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 38,792 Photos: 542	Like other players their numbers have declined. I know you say players used uppers years ago but steroids are at a different level. How To Do The Perfect Bench Press Rep Bodybuilding and Lifting Weights, the Difference ironmagazine-frapper

07-30-2009, 07:02 PM	#16
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	I agree. But it is cheating none the less, according to today's standards. Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

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I Are Baboon pedal pedal pedal Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beerville Posts: 11,942 Photos: 4	soxmuscle...where is that homo?

07-30-2009, 10:42 PM	#23
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 31,699	LOL....I like how Nomar is now stating that some guys chose not to take the test and said to put them down as "positive" so that it would elevate the numbers and force baseball to institute a testing policy....Riiiiiiight. Sounds like a guy who is trying to cover his tracks to me. patrick E-Book: Take Charge! Everything You Need To Know To Write Your Own Training Programs Online Consulting/Program Design Reality Based Fitness Podcast Check me out on Twitter! Subscribe to our free monthly newsletter! "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

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IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	58 hrs prior to 2003 in 6 seasons 244 hrs since 2003 Obviously the steroid testing isn't working too well. Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan Last edited by IainDaniel : 07-31-2009 at 07:35 AM.

07-31-2009, 08:53 AM	#26
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	Big Papi Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

07-31-2009, 09:28 AM	#30
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 17,548	His steroid supplier Manny left. He just found another supplier recently Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

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