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    Mayweather would beat Manny Pacquiao because he's Black

    Hopkins: Manny Pacquiao beatable

    Would a black boxer stand a better chance against Manny Pacquiao than his most recent competition?


    Floyd Mayweather would beat Manny Pacquiao because the styles that African-American fighters -- and I mean, black fighters from the streets or the inner cities -- would be successful.

    --Bernard Hopkins
    Bernard Hopkins believes so. And while boxing fans wait -- and wait -- for Pacquiao (52-3-2, 38 KOs) and Floyd Mayweather Jr. to finally agree to terms for a fight, Hopkins is asserting that a black fighter's style would give Pacquiao more of a challenge than Antonio Margarito was able to muster against Pacquiao on Saturday night, according to a story on Fanhouse.com.

    And Hopkins -- who said he's voicing what other black fighters and fight fans are thinking but reluctant to say -- is wondering why Pacquiao hasn't fought Mayweather "or any other top-notch black fighter," according to the report.

    "Floyd Mayweather would beat Manny Pacquiao because the styles that African-American fighters -- and I mean, black fighters from the streets or the inner cities -- would be successful," said Hopkins, according to Fanhouse.com. "I think Floyd Mayweather would pot-shot Pacquiao and bust him up in between the four-to-five punches that Pacquiao throws and then set him up later on down the line."

    Pacquiao fought and defeated Joshua Clottey of Ghana earlier this year, but Hopkins discounted that win, saying "Clottey is 'black,' but not a 'black boxer' from the states with a slick style."

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    bernard hopkins is an idiot. i liked him as a boxer, as a commentator he should shut the fck up. mayweather grew up in a boxing household the son of a contender and the nephew of two title holders. i don't think he grew up "on the streets" the way bernard did. LOL
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    bernard is a dirty ass fighter. mayweather is far from the streets. mayweather has no heart.

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    Doh! C'mon dummy, Manny has fought African American fighters before, and has beaten them handily!
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    Hopkins is a tremendous fighter, and was one of the best in the world a few years ago, but he is famous for getting attention by trying his hardest to piss people off. Not sure what his angle is here, but I guarantee he has one. He is a promoter as well as a fighter, and was able to keep much of his money over the years by avoiding the blood-sucking promoters of the sport. He is a helluva lot smarter than he lets on, and makes a lot of money by being the bad guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDR View Post
    Hopkins is a tremendous fighter, and was one of the best in the world a few years ago, but he is famous for getting attention by trying his hardest to piss people off. Not sure what his angle is here, but I guarantee he has one. He is a promoter as well as a fighter, and was able to keep much of his money over the years by avoiding the blood-sucking promoters of the sport. He is a helluva lot smarter than he lets on, and makes a lot of money by being the bad guy.
    Good point! He's trying to wedge himself in and promote this fight. But, way down, you know he's just sticking to his own persuasion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronAddict View Post
    Good point! He's trying to wedge himself in and promote this fight. But, way down, you know he's just sticking to his own persuasion.
    Probably true, but I kinda admire that he's found a way to voice it and make money from it at the same time. Besides, there is an element of truth. Lotta great black fighters from the inner-city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDR View Post
    Probably true, but I kinda admire that he's found a way to voice it and make money from it at the same time. Besides, there is an element of truth. Lotta great black fighters from the inner-city.
    sure there are. yet i can't think of one that is in pac-mans class right now. i don't consider mayweather from the inner city though
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDR View Post
    Probably true, but I kinda admire that he's found a way to voice it and make money from it at the same time. Besides, there is an element of truth. Lotta great black fighters from the inner-city.
    Sorry, I seemed to have failed to return to this thread. But, I probably would've responded with something pretty similar to this, though.

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    sure there are. yet i can't think of one that is in pac-mans class right now. i don't consider mayweather from the inner city though
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    manny needs to fight juan manuel marquez. I think he's the only guy that knows how to beat pac

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    The only street Floyd "The Tranny" Mayweather is from is maybe a run-way. Bernard was a fantastic text book boxer, but he's not exactly a scholar.

    As much as I hate Mayweather and am completely pro Manny. I think Mayweather would rub out a decision win by a hair.

    Manny's last fight was the most impressive to me so far, not so much because he was pushing forward and bullying his opponent with sheer acivity, but Manny was able to connect from an aggregious amount of angles and his footwork was amazing.

    Manny's angles might be his best hand at getting by Mayweathers ungodly counter speed, timing and accuracy.

    Lastly, Mayweather doesn't "fight," as much as he "boxes" and plays the game and he plays the game better then anyone. I dont know if Bernard had technical boxing in his streets, but if so, damn, rough street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDR View Post
    Probably true, but I kinda admire that he's found a way to voice it and make money from it at the same time. Besides, there is an element of truth. Lotta great black fighters from the inner-city.
    Same could be said about Mexicans (or Brasilians) from the inner-city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Same could be said about Mexicans (or Brasilians) from the inner-city.
    No question. Most of the best boxing gyms are in decrepit neighborhoods. I did say that there was an element of truth to what Hopkins said. Like most liars, Hopkins is smart enough to include a piece of the truth when telling an obvious lie. Is the "slick" style attributed to many inner city black fighters effective? Absolutely. Is Floyd "slick" enough to beat Manny? Highly questionable. Mexican fighters have a reputation for a straight-ahead, macho style of fighting. Is this true of all Mexican fighters? Of course not. All I'm saying is Hopkins is not sharing his true feelings on the subject, he is trying to piss people off and manipulate the situation. Probably in an effort to make money with Golden Boy promotions. Promoters lie and manipulate to make fights, why should Hopkins be any different? Manny vs Floyd would be the fight of the decade. I'm guessing Manny and Freddy Roach are smart enough to see though this nonsense even if the boxing press is not. Manny is in a position to dictate terms here. As of this moment he is the best boxer in the world, bar none. Nothing Hopkins says is going to change that fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Same could be said about Mexicans (or Brasilians) from the inner-city.
    Having dealt with many Brazilians over the years, I can attest that there is a huge sense of Brazilian pride amongst them. Their level of machismo is off the charts and they are amongst the most stubborn and strong willed people out there.

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    the replay is on HBO saturday night i love the PAC_MAN i wish him and mayweather would just get it over with
    I want pac-man to whip his ass and shut him the fuck up!! But i do respect him no one has beat him yet., so if anyone can do it it's def PAC_MAN

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    I remember Hopkins saying before he fought Joe Calzaghe that he "would never be beat by a white boy". Imagine if it was the other way round and Joe said something like that about Hopkins! Joe would have been called a racist and the press calling for his head. Hopkins is a dick and im glad Joe Calazaghe beat him despite what Hopkins said.

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    I'll say this: Hopkins has a great career ahead of him as a promoter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paolo584 View Post
    manny needs to fight juan manuel marquez. I think he's the only guy that knows how to beat pac
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    Quote Originally Posted by paolo584 View Post
    manny needs to fight juan manuel marquez. I think he's the only guy that knows how to beat pac
    Marquez is a great fighter. To come off the canvas three times in the first round in the first fight and come very close to winning is incredible. He was knocked down a fourth time in the second fight, and he lost a very close split decision. Marquez is a champion and a warrior. Another Pacquiao-Marquez fight would be a ton of fun to watch, and Marquez may well have what it takes to beat Pacquiao. After 24 of the best rounds in boxing over the last few years, he has earned the chance to fight him again. Personally, I hope Manny fights them both and retires.

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    Blacks r cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by smellycatt View Post
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    Cause this cats no fool.
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