Vince Carter traded!

**gr81** · 12-20-2004, 10:54 AM

You're right about T-Mac & Carter would've made a great combo.

Like Shaq & Bryant prior to their problems LOL

actually I was the one that made that point, and it would have been nothing like Shaq and Kobe since T-mac and VC are cousins and both play a 2 or 3

**min0 lee** · 12-20-2004, 11:11 AM

Report: Vince was a snitch

Told Sonics what to expect

BY OHM YOUNGMISUK
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

TORONTO - Vince Carter didn't leave Toronto without a little controversy.

According to the Tacoma (Wash.) News Tribune, three members of the Sonics said that Carter allegedly tipped off Seattle players to a play the Raptors were going to run in the final minute of Toronto's 101-94 loss to the Sonics Nov. 19.

The Raptors, who were down by seven with 29 seconds remaining in the game at the time of the alleged incident, still scored on the play.

Carter did not attend yesterday's game, however he did issue a statement through the team saying, "I have no comment. It's a non-issue." He joined the Nets at the airport and flew with the team to Charlotte last night.

The Nets, who acquired Carter in a four-player deal on Friday, were unaware of the controversy but didn't seem to be too worried about their new teammate.

"Who won the game?" Jason Kidd asked. "Was it on a last-second shot? It had no effect on the game. Who cares if it was a flare (play) or not a flare? It hurt Seattle because they knew what was coming and they still were able to score."

"I've heard guys saying (a play) is coming to me," Kidd added. "Then you have to try and stop it. It is part of the game, a little trash talking. I don't think it is so much tipping. This isn't baseball."

The story, which the NBA could always decide to investigate, only gave Carter's critics more ammunition to work with. Many in Toronto were happy to see Carter go after the five-time All-Star asked to be traded in the offseason.

Carter, who was the face of the Raptors franchise, fell out of favor with some fans and media here after missing 70 games over his previous three seasons with injuries. Some questioned his toughness and priorities. Carter is on the injured list with an Achilles injury. While he is eligible to be activated for tomorrow's game against the Bobcats, Carter said he could be out for a few more games.

Raptors GM Rob Babcock learned about the alleged incident for the first time last Wednesday when the Tacoma newspaper called him. Babcock then traded Carter two days later to the Nets for Alonzo Mourning, Aaron Williams, Eric Williams and two conditional first-round picks.

"I am not aware of the incident, just from this reporter's perspective," Babcock said before yesterday's game against the Nets. "Many players will do things like that, sometimes joking, sometimes as a challenge. If you are going to do something like that, you better win the game. I don't know the parameters around it at all." According to the report, Carter informed members of the Sonics bench that the Raptors would run a "flare" play for him, which they did. Carter then passed to Matt Bonner, who hit a jumper. "I just heard about it this morning," Raptors coach Sam Mitchell said. "There's nothing I can do about it now. The Seattle game is over, it's in the past. Vince is in New Jersey. It does me no good to respond to that. I wish Vince well. Life moves on."

**gr81** · 12-20-2004, 11:21 AM

"I've heard guys saying (a play) is coming to me," Kidd added. "Then you have to try and stop it. It is part of the game, a little trash talking. I don't think it is so much tipping. This isn't baseball."

read

**min0 lee** · 12-20-2004, 11:38 AM

I did, I read the whole thing.

**tucker01** · 12-20-2004, 11:42 AM

you too, eh!

**min0 lee** · 12-20-2004, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

you too, eh!

I like the Vince who was a healthy Vince, before he got hurt he was awesome.

**gr81** · 12-20-2004, 12:06 PM

I did, I read the whole thing.

yeah I am just making the point that I bet the farm that was taken majorly out of context. its useless to speculate on such nonsense IMO

**min0 lee** · 12-20-2004, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by gr81

yeah I am just making the point that I bet the farm that was taken majorly out of context. its useless to speculate on such nonsense IMO

True, I doubt if it would have made a difference.
I just figured I post it.

**tucker01** · 12-20-2004, 12:09 PM

Yeah I saw the replay of what happened. Whether or not it was said as trash talk or not. Bonner still made the shot. The Raps weren't even really in the game with 39 secs or something left. So this whole thing seems to be blown out of proportion

**Cold Iron** · 12-20-2004, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by gr81

read

Wow, what a coincedence....his new teamate is defending him. Honestly, whats j-kidd supposed to say?

Its pretty funny though, Evans is taking back what he said before and denying the whole issue even happened now.

**Cold Iron** · 12-20-2004, 10:29 PM

lol vince

http://www.tsn.ca/nba/news_story.asp?id=108736

VC: People will eat their words

Associated Press

12/20/2004

FORT MILL, S.C. (AP) - Vince Carter's strained left Achilles tendon will keep him from playing Tuesday night when the New Jersey Nets face the Charlotte Bobcats.

But Carter can't wait to play for his new team and prove he hasn't lost a step or any height on his vertical jump.

''I'm going to make a lot of people eat their words when it's time,'' the former Toronto Raptor said after his first practice with the Nets. ''Don't be my friend later.

''If you hate me now, hate me later. I don't mind.''
Carter was traded from Toronto to New Jersey on Friday for Aaron Williams, Eric Williams, Alonzo Mourning and two conditional first-round picks. The deal was finalized Monday, when the players passed their physicals. The Raptors waived the physical for Mourning.
For Carter, 27, this is a new beginning after 6 1/2 seasons in Toronto, where he was the face of the franchise and the person who took the heat when the Raptors didn't play well or when he didn't carry them to victories.

''My whole goal was to take the pressure off of everybody else,'' Carter said. ''I could shoulder the blame.''

Carter's role with New Jersey will be much different. The Nets are Jason Kidd's team first, then Richard Jefferson's. That doesn't bother five-time all-star Carter.

''I'm happy with it,'' Carter said. ''I'm just there to be that other guy, that third guy to help out.
''Now who are you going to worry about more? It's going to be fun.''
For the time being, no one will be worrying about Carter. He also doesn't expect to play Wednesday against Cleveland. A more realistic date for his Nets' debut is Monday at Detroit.

''It's feeling good,'' Carter said of the injury. ''But I'm not going to rush it.''

Carter was given opportunities to criticize the Raptors, but chose not to. He was the subject of countless trade rumours and was nearly dealt to the Blazers and Knicks. He was surprised when he found out it was the Nets, but wasn't upset.

''I was happy that a decision was made,'' Carter said. ''Seven years, time to move on.''

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