Hockey dead for two years??

**ZECH** · 01-03-2005, 02:03 PM

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Gretzky Says Lockout Could Last Two Years If No Deal Soon

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Jan 3, 11:57 AM (ET)

GRAND FORKS, N.D. (AP) - Wayne Gretzky fears the NHL could be shut down for as long as two years if a labor deal is not reached soon.
Gretzky, the NHL's all-time leading scorer and part owner of the Phoenix Coyotes, said an "even more alarming" scenario could await the league if the lockout is not settled in the next few days.

"I'm scared we could be looking at a year, year-and-a-half, two years, not just three months like a lot of people thought back in September," Gretzky said at a news conference Sunday at the World Junior Championships, where Canada will meet Russia in Tuesday's final.

The NHL board of governors is to meet Jan. 14 in New York. The league rejected a union proposal and its own counteroffer was turned down during a session Dec. 14. No new talks are scheduled.

"From the standpoint of owners, players and fans, everyone is disappointed there is no hockey," Gretzky said.

Since the players are not paid between April and October, Gretzky said there may be little chance of any breakthrough during the summer on a new collective bargaining agreement.

"We're going to be back where we were last Sept. 15th come this Sept. 15th," he said.

Gretzky played in the world juniors for Canada when he was 16.

"I was lucky," he said. "The only reason I made the team is because a couple of older guys got hurt. I was a young kid, and I enjoyed it. I was in awe."

**I Are Baboon** · 01-03-2005, 02:21 PM

Meh, let it die.

**tucker01** · 01-03-2005, 02:27 PM

Ditto

Fukwads both sides

**King Silverback** · 01-03-2005, 03:13 PM

Hockey, whats that???

**ALBOB** · 01-03-2005, 03:23 PM

Let the NHL, as it is now, die. Then bring back some other league with a collective bargaining agreement. Just scrap the whole damn thing and start fresh.

P.S. Fuck all ya's all. Hockey RUUUULZE!!!

**19-chief** · 01-03-2005, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Let the NHL, as it is now, die. Then bring back some other league with a collective bargaining agreement. Just scrap the whole damn thing and start fresh.

P.S. Fuck all ya's all. Hockey RUUUULZE!!!

from what i've read about you, i don't know if i should be seen agreeing with you but... yeah, fuck all y'all -HOCKEY DOES FUCKING RULE!!!

the sad part has been exemplified here on this thread... no one but hockey people really care. i agree. maybe they should start fresh. smaller league more talent per team... maybe better promotion for better tv deals and exposure. damn, i miss the nhl on tv. good thing i am not one of those pathetic souls who says they love a sport but doesn't get to play it... if i'm not playing hockey, i'm coaching youth hockey, and if not that i'm at a sc stingrays game with my family/ friends. peace out.

**19-chief** · 01-03-2005, 04:09 PM

BTW, gary bettmen is an ass-wipe in a suit!!!

**soxmuscle** · 01-03-2005, 04:15 PM

I have desperately missed every freakin' night of having no hockey. I might go clinically insane if the Patriots don't win the Superbowl and I'm left with only the Celtics for a month until the Red Sox report to Ft. Myers.

**soxmuscle** · 01-03-2005, 04:15 PM

Actually I can't say that. My Boston College Eagles are 11-0!

**19-chief** · 01-03-2005, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Actually I can't say that. My Boston College Eagles are 11-0!

do you get NESN? if i got NESN, i wouldn't really care too much about the nhl. college puck is where it's at.

**soxmuscle** · 01-03-2005, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by 19-chief

do you get NESN? if i got NESN, i wouldn't really care too much about the nhl. college puck is where it's at.

I watch college hockey on a daily basis, again watching my Eagles day in and day out. It's just as good as professional hockey, but theres just that something that makes the NHL such an awesome league.

**19-chief** · 01-03-2005, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

I watch college hockey on a daily basis, again watching my Eagles day in and day out. It's just as good as professional hockey, but theres just that something that makes the NHL such an awesome league.

man, i am jealous! i agree, knowing that you're watching "the best" guys playing in "the best" league is special but the grit and intensity of college puck is rarely matched by the pro's except during the final stretch of the season and the playoffs.

**soxmuscle** · 01-03-2005, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by 19-chief

man, i am jealous! i agree, knowing that you're watching "the best" guys playing in "the best" league is special but the grit and intensity of college puck is rarely matched by the pro's except during the final stretch of the season and the playoffs.

Definitly.

**SJ69** · 01-03-2005, 09:04 PM

Check out the AHL, you can actually afford the tickets without a second mortgage and the play is much more physical and fun to watch. Philly Phantoms are doin good this year!

**19-chief** · 01-04-2005, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by SJ69

Check out the AHL, you can actually afford the tickets without a second mortgage and the play is much more physical and fun to watch. Philly Phantoms are doin good this year!

i would if i could but i'm in charleston, sc. actually i have been following the phantoms from the internet some. (i am originally from jersey and have been a flyers fan since before the devils came to town.) we do have the stingrays in the echl here. the arena is 2 minutes from my house and talk about cheap tickets. the hockey isn't too bad either. cheers!

**tucker01** · 01-04-2005, 07:15 AM

I Live and Breath Hockey, but I am sick of the BS in the NHL.

The NHL is fucked, both the players and owners are fucked, and I don't give a shit who is right. They need to put differences aside and sort this shit out.

The NHL fucked up years ago when new arenas started to be built. This was the perfect opportunity to go to Olympic sized ice surfaces. Big Fuck up IMO

Fuck up number to is just recent prolly the last 5-10 years. All this Trap shit and Clutching and Grabbing has ruined hockey. No wonder they can't get a National TV contract when the Star players can't display there skills.

Here is a question for you name one NHL Star that attracts crowds, in opposing Arena's.... I can't think of any. The last I remember were Gretzky and Lemieux. That explains everything right there

You wanna see amazing hockey. The World Juniors were played over the Holidays and the Final is tonite, between the Russians and the Canadians (of Course

) This is Hockey where the Skilled get to play. The referee makes calls on any stick infraction. Absolutely no tolerance, which is the way it should be played. I hope the Canadians Destroy the Russians, especially after the ignorant diplay the Russians showed against the Americans in the Semi.

But Fuck the NHL. There is better Hockey out there were the players give a shit and come out and play night in and night out, not just during the playoffs.

**ALBOB** · 01-04-2005, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by 19-chief

from what i've read about you, i don't know if i should be seen agreeing with you

Shows you've been paying attention.

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

watching my Eagles day in and day out

Cool, another Eagles fan. We're gonna win the Superbowl this year.

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

name one NHL Star that attracts crowds, in opposing Arena's

Ty Domi.

**tucker01** · 01-04-2005, 08:47 AM

Tie Domi, only in Philly cause he kicks the crap outta your fatass fans

**ALBOB** · 01-04-2005, 10:17 AM

Only in Philly do you have fans with the balls to jump in the box with him.

**tucker01** · 01-04-2005, 10:56 AM

You say Jump... I say a pussy behind the glass who was just to big and fat and fell through, only to get pummeled

**ALBOB** · 01-04-2005, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

You say Jump... I say a pussy behind the glass who was just to big and fat and fell through, only to get pummeled

You didn't expect me to tell the TRUTH, did you?

**tucker01** · 01-04-2005, 11:03 AM

Yeah I guess at your age alzheimer's kicks in really bad.

**Pepper** · 01-04-2005, 12:22 PM

I have not read all of this thread but I really hope the owners stick to their guns on this one. The balance of power in most of professional sports has tilted too far towards the "unions."

If the NHL owners win, maybe the baseball owners will grow a set and decide to add a salary cap.

**Pepper** · 01-04-2005, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by 19-chief

i would if i could but i'm in charleston, sc. actually i have been following the phantoms from the internet some. (i am originally from jersey and have been a flyers fan since before the devils came to town.) we do have the stingrays in the echl here. the arena is 2 minutes from my house and talk about cheap tickets. the hockey isn't too bad either. cheers!

I do believe the Sting Rays got their ass handed to them on New Years Day here in Greenville.

**19-chief** · 01-05-2005, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Pepper

I do believe the Sting Rays got their ass handed to them on New Years Day here in Greenville.

i know, i know. you and i should have good old fashion echl rivalry then, eh pepper?

**tucker01** · 01-05-2005, 09:35 AM

Nothing like some good ole Goon Hockey, Ahhh the ECHL

**19-chief** · 01-05-2005, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Nothing like some good ole Goon Hockey, Ahhh the ECHL

most of time... you are correct. sometimes i swear they don't play any better of a game than when i was in prep school or bantam aaa up north. don't tell them that though... they know me and wouldn't like to hear that!

**Pepper** · 01-05-2005, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by 19-chief

i know, i know. you and i should have good old fashion echl rivalry then, eh pepper?

Yep. I enjoy the ECHL games but we have the gayest team name EVER.

Greenville Grrrowl.

**Flex** · 01-05-2005, 02:26 PM

Let the NHL die, no one misses it now, they won't in a few years, either.

This lockout became inevitable once the Whalers left Hartford

**19-chief** · 01-05-2005, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Flex

Let the NHL die, no one misses it now, they won't in a few years, either.

This lockout became inevitable once the Whalers left Hartford

i sense resentment from the whalers fan. seriously, there are lots of people who miss it. maybe not anyone you know but fuck, what sports do you play and have a life-long commitment to? if they suddenly disappeared, you'd be upset too.

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