Thread: Manram Gone?

Manny's staying, confirmed by ESPN, redsox.com etc.

hell yeah!

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Manny's staying, confirmed by ESPN, redsox.com etc.

hell yeah!

That's good and bad.

Of course we want his bat.
But though he's made big improvements in the field, the guy's a straight up dick and he doesn't hustle. I have mixed emotions about this guy.

I understand it's a business and he just wants to make as much $ as possible, but shit, cut it out already.

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Manny's staying, confirmed by ESPN, redsox.com etc.

hell yeah!

The only thing that's been confirmed is Manny SAYING he now wants to stay in Boston, but that doesn't mean he won't be traded. Manny doesn't know what the hell he wants. He wants to stay, he wants to go, he wants to stay, he wants to go. Isn't this like the fourth time in the last YEAR he's changed his mind about a trade.

Manny, STFU already.

if we kall red sox fans idiots its becasue they are....i think yankee fans like myself get annoyed with people from boston that consider this a rivalry becuase its not win a championship 25 more years in a row hahaaaaaaa

manny for tejada would be great trade u could always get an outfielder with good offensive production not a short stop

Originally Posted by JOHNYORK

if we kall red sox fans idiots its becasue they are....i think yankee fans like myself get annoyed with people from boston that consider this a rivalry becuase its not win a championship 25 more years in a row hahaaaaaaa

answer this: when was the last time the yankees won the world series?

and then this: when was the last time the red sox won the world series?

scoreboard says "soxmuscle one, this assclown zero."

Originally Posted by Flex

That's good and bad.

Of course we want his bat.
But though he's made big improvements in the field, the guy's a straight up dick and he doesn't hustle. I have mixed emotions about this guy.

I understand it's a business and he just wants to make as much $ as possible, but shit, cut it out already.

while i too get sick of "Manny being Manny," he's one of the best right handed hitters in baseball and of all time. i'd take his production in my line-up for the next three years for 57 million when guys like johnny damon will be making about the same.

Theo Epstein this morning on WEEI:
“It’s important to remember that in this offseason the Red Sox have acquired a 25-year-old pitcher of the caliber of Josh Beckett, one of the best prospects in baseball in Andy Marte, and there’s still a lot of time left to round out the club for 2006,” said Epstein. “So what I hope for the Red Sox is that soon they go on another run of three straight postseason appearances, 95-plus wins, and that fans will be able to look back and say, you know what that offseason that we really didn’t think went so well was really a big part in laying that foundation.”

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nothing against any of my red sox buddies on here, but theres a reason why we are not running the red sox and guys like theo, lucchino, cherrington, and hoyer are.

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

answer this: when was the last time the yankees won the world series?

and then this: when was the last time the red sox won the world series?

scoreboard says "soxmuscle one, this assclown zero."

1918 until now red sox 1
1918 until now Yankees..chasing 27.

That wasnt the best question to ask.

Originally Posted by ANCAM

1918 until now red sox 1
1918 until now Yankees..chasing 27.

That wasnt the best question to ask.

to be honest, i never really cared about Yankee fans with the 1918 chants, and there 26 World Championship signs so i almost regret making a remark in regards to the Red Sox winning the World Series in 2004.. keyword being almost.

the fact of the matter is that the Yankees have been poorly ran the last few years, and haven't won a world series in a long time.

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

the fact of the matter is that the Yankees have been poorly ran the last few years, and haven't won a world series in a long time.

I actually agree with you on that one.

Originally Posted by ANCAM

I actually agree with you on that one.

i'm not throwing insults, just stating my opinion that im sure many yankee fans alike would agree with.

I agree, we have 2 offices controlling the Yankees. One in Florida (A couple of idiots) and the smart one from NY (Gene Micheal, Torre and Cashman)
The Florida idiots were the ones who brought Womack here they also are trying to get rid of Gene Micheal who was responsible for the Yankees winning the last few WS.

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As Manny's world turns, so too does Red Sox Nation's stomach.

In case you missed it, there was another "trade me, don't bother, well, on second thought do what you can" flip-flop by Manny Ramirez this past week, leaving the multi-headed Red Sox upper management team further perplexed over what to do with their enigmatic slugger.
The Manny dilemma is symptomatic of the entire Red Sox offseason. It is Jan. 8 and the Red Sox still do not have a shortstop to replace the two they traded (Hanley Ramirez and Edgar Renteria), a center fielder to replace Johnny Damon (with whom they allowed themselves to get outmaneuvered by the Yankees) or a suitable closer to allow Mike Timlin to go back to setting up.
Do they have a plan? Surely, they understand that Red Sox Nation is getting nervous, especially since the departure of Theo Epstein has led to the perception of an "over-its-head" front office engulfed in chaos and indecision.
It's hard to believe that owner John Henry and CEO Larry Lucchino could allow the world championship euphoria of 2004 to evaporate so quickly. Knowing Henry and Lucchino, there is a plan, and a somewhat grandiose one at that. The problem is they're hamstrung by Ramirez and frustrated by the intransigent Tampa Bay Devil Rays. Regardless of all the contradictory reports and statements coming out of the Dominican Republic, Ramirez absolutely wants out of Boston. If you must know, it's a Mrs. Manny thing.
The Red Sox want to accommodate - but their options are severely limited, if they are to get back equal value for 145 RBI, especially now that Miguel Tejada has reversed course and told the Orioles he no longer wants to be traded. Before Tejada's conversation with Baltimore GM Jim Duquette yesterday, the basics were there for a Ramirez-for-Tejada deal as the Orioles needed an outfielder after Jeromy Burnitz signed with the Pirates and became the latest free agent to spurn them.
Before Tejada's change of heart, Duquette, understood how much the moral of other players in the clubhouse would be undermined by a disgruntled team leader.
With Tejada no longer an option, the Red Sox are prepared to go with Alex Cora at shortstop, figuring, if nothing else, they'll have solid defense there and a cheaper alternative to signing Alex Gonzalez (and his career .292 on-base pct.). They've pretty much exhausted talks with the Devil Rays about Julio Lugo. Nothing has changed in Tampa Bay in terms of trading with the new regime. They talk about being open to trading Lugo, Aubrey Huff and Danys Baez - all of whom are coming up on free agency and clearly are not part of the Devil Rays' future beyond next season - but their idea of acceptable offers for lame-duck players are top prospects they can control for 4-5 years. As for center field, the Red Sox are holding top third base prospect Andy Marte as a chip to get Coco Crisp from the Indians (who need to first get an outfielder from somewhere else), or they still believe that they can get Jeremy Reed from the pitching-needy Mariners in a deal involving Bronson Arroyo.
All of this, however, remains a wait-and-see proposition for the Red Sox, and they could wind up striking out all over, while having no choice but to keep Ramirez and his miffed missus. If so, then Plan C is apparently to try to hang in there next season with pitching (relying heavily on top prospects Jon Papelbon, Jon Lester and Craig Hansen to fill out the rotation and handle the closer duties should Keith Foulke not make it back) and defense (they're prepared to let newly signed J.T. Snow handle the bulk of the duty at first base).
What were they thinking?
The Red Sox are not the only team to have had a bad winter, just the most prominent in terms of recent past performance and annual great expectations. Start with the three worst signings of the offseason:
The Cubs' $16 million three-year deal to Jacque Jones, whose on-base pct. the past four seasons has declined steadily from .341 to .319.
The Phillies' admittedly desperate, three-year, $18 million deal to 38-year-old "closer" Tom Gordon, who barely made it through last season as a setup man for the Yankees.
And the Mariners' $37.5 million deal over four years to Jarrod Washburn, who was 8-8 last year. We also wish the Mariners good luck with Carl Everett, who, after signing a one-year, $4 million deal immediately proclaimed that Seattle was 3,000 miles from his comfort zone. Then there are the Padres, who seemed to have gone into a "rob Peter to pay Paul" mode after re-signing fan favorites Brian Giles and Trevor Hoffman for a combined $43.5 million. To compensate for payroll considerations, the Padres got rid of two of their most effective set-up men, Rudy Seanez and Akinori Otsuka, and traded their team leader, second baseman Mark Loretta to the Red Sox for backup catcher Doug Mirabelli (huh?). Until further notice, the jury remains divided on their trade of No. 2 starter Adam Eaton, a free agent after next season, to the Rangers for promising 6-10 righty Chris Young, who doesn't have the same upside, but won one more game than Eaton last year with virtually the same ERA (4.26). On the surface, the Padres appear to have severely compromised themselves in retaining Giles and Hoffman, and they're clearly banking on big contributions from their farm system, particularly second baseman Josh Barfield.

It's A Madd, Madd World…

The votes are all in so this is no attempt at any 11th hour politicking, just one man's Hall of Fame ballot in what is being generally regarded as a lean year: Goose Gossage and Bruce Sutter (isn't it time the true workman closers got their due?), Jack Morris (he was the No. 1 starter on every team he pitched for and a big-game postseason pitcher if there ever was one), Bert Blyleven (how can 60 career shutouts continue to be denied, especially in this day and age?). Election results Tuesday.

To Rafael Palmeiro, who obviously still doesn't get it, there are only two things to say:

1. How many times are you going to throw Miguel Tejada under the bus?

2. Just shut up and go away, and maybe, five years from now, the Hall of Fame voters will forget what a lying cheat you were.

Can it get any worse for the Orioles, for whom nobody wants to play, starting with their best player, Tejada? Last week, Jeromy Burnitz reneged on a $12 million, two-year verbal deal with the O's to accept a one-year, $6.7 million deal with the Pirates.

Interesting, so it's Manny's wife who wants out...

lol guys like fact is the yankees havent won in long time haa this after red sox win first world series in thousand years

is that johnny damon speaking? he too can't speak english. (im going to hell, he has a problem.)

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

is that johnny damon speaking? he too can't speak english. (im going to hell, he has a problem.)

not to sound like a wise ass or anything...but most the two biggest names on the Red Sox can barely say their name in english...Manny and Ortiz.

Originally Posted by ANCAM

not to sound like a wise ass or anything...but most the two biggest names on the Red Sox can barely say their name in english...Manny and Ortiz.

So what?

"My name ees Dabid Ortiz....En bazeball hah been berry good to me."

Originally Posted by ANCAM

not to sound like a wise ass or anything...but most the two biggest names on the Red Sox can barely say their name in english...Manny and Ortiz.

Johnny Damon is a born and raised American; David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez are not.

again though, making fun of his learning disability is not a very nice thing to do. i apologize.